Fairfax Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the first dropped call is weird. He probably had a knife and said “hang up the phone or I’ll stab your boss (or you.” so she did. Then the husband shot him and she called 911 at that point.

But all of that would transpire in 1, maybe 2 minutes. Not 15.

You can’t assume that. He may have ranted and threatened for 15 minutes.

The important thing is that had 911 been able to trace the first call they could’ve been there before the second call.

True. Was it too short of a call to trace?

it was a cell phone - 911 can't trace those

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP who thinks murdered male was BF of au pair. Could this be a stalking situation? The homeowners confronted the BF or were surprised to see him? The au pairs’ “friend” was attempting a break -in?

This is how my mind works. Just tossing this out there.

That was one of my initial thoughts, but the kid being removed and the husband not cooperating makes me think there is more to the story

Waiting for an attorney is not “not cooperating “. It’s the correct thing to do. Removing the kid makes sense until they can determine she’s safe with him.

If you shoot a random intruder who kills your spouse, your child is not removed from your care. There is more to the story

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Anonymous wrote:I know the family. There is nothing online about the husband’s professional career, because he has a high profile security job with the federal government.

Christine was the nicest and most generous person I have ever met, and I am deeply sad and shocked with this tragedy.

Is that why he had a gun in the house?

yes, he would have a gun as part of his job

He worked for the IRS. A bean counter with a gun?

An IRS Special Agent does carry a gun.
https://www.jobs.irs.gov/resources/job-descriptions/irs-criminal-investigation-special-agent

Just keep paying your fair share and everything will be fine.


Still struggling to understand what type of tax enforcement requires a gun

I am still struggling to understand why you seem so worried about the reason why this man had a weapon. I will clarify for you. It’s because this is America. The country that glorifies guns and romantizes the violence brought by them.

He has a gun because in America you have the right to possess a gun and defend yourself. Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP who thinks murdered male was BF of au pair. Could this be a stalking situation? The homeowners confronted the BF or were surprised to see him? The au pairs’ “friend” was attempting a break -in?

This is how my mind works. Just tossing this out there.

That was one of my initial thoughts, but the kid being removed and the husband not cooperating makes me think there is more to the story

Waiting for an attorney is not “not cooperating “. It’s the correct thing to do. Removing the kid makes sense until they can determine she’s safe with him.

If you shoot a random intruder who kills your spouse, your child is not removed from your care. There is more to the story

They can’t know he was a random intruder on day one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know the family. There is nothing online about the husband’s professional career, because he has a high profile security job with the federal government.

Christine was the nicest and most generous person I have ever met, and I am deeply sad and shocked with this tragedy.

Is that why he had a gun in the house?

yes, he would have a gun as part of his job

He worked for the IRS. A bean counter with a gun?

An IRS Special Agent does carry a gun.
https://www.jobs.irs.gov/resources/job-descriptions/irs-criminal-investigation-special-agent

Still struggling to understand what type of tax enforcement requires a gun

This is perhaps the easiest part of the entire case to understand. IRS agents conduct raids on people who don't pay their taxes and are ordered to seize assets (houses, cars, jewelry, cash, etc.). You don't think that perhaps there is an element of danger to that job? You think there is 100% peaceful compliance when criminals get their assets siezed?

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Any updates?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know the family. There is nothing online about the husband’s professional career, because he has a high profile security job with the federal government.

Christine was the nicest and most generous person I have ever met, and I am deeply sad and shocked with this tragedy.

Is that why he had a gun in the house?

It's often said that there are no stupid questions, but this question disproves that saying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP who thinks murdered male was BF of au pair. Could this be a stalking situation? The homeowners confronted the BF or were surprised to see him? The au pairs’ “friend” was attempting a break -in?

This is how my mind works. Just tossing this out there.

That was one of my initial thoughts, but the kid being removed and the husband not cooperating makes me think there is more to the story

Waiting for an attorney is not “not cooperating “. It’s the correct thing to do. Removing the kid makes sense until they can determine she’s safe with him.

If you shoot a random intruder who kills your spouse, your child is not removed from your care. There is more to the story

You do not know the exact circumstances. Maybe the husband is too traumatized right now to responsibly care for the child, who is best off with relatives at the moment.

Also, to another PP's point, one shouldn't assume or imply the husband is uncooperative or guilty just because he wants to have a lawyer present. If you shoot and kill someone, even if it's an intruder and/or someone attacking your family member with a knife, you will still want to ensure that you are not charged with a crime. As I understand it, there are certain circumstances under which you are able to do so under the law in self defense in VA (basically Stand Your Ground), and there is a more limited set of circumstances under which you may do so if a third party is being attacked, such as your spouse. It is a perfectly reasonable reaction if the husband is shocked, terrified, and wants to ensure that he's not in trouble.

I don't know these people. But I do know that we don't have all the facts and it's unfortunate when some people in DCUM start disparaging someone who may be a victim. The same thing happened in another case last year when people started accusing the father and a son of killing a mom when, in fact, it was a handyman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Fairfax County Police Department said in its press release yesterday that the man who entered the home was apparently unknown to the husband. This contradicts the information in the news the prior day.

Wait - WTOP, the local traffic and weather outlet, got an important fact wrong?

How will DCUM cope without their gross theories about what happened to this nurse, wife, and mother?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know the family. There is nothing online about the husband’s professional career, because he has a high profile security job with the federal government.

Christine was the nicest and most generous person I have ever met, and I am deeply sad and shocked with this tragedy.

Is that why he had a gun in the house?

yes, he would have a gun as part of his job

He worked for the IRS. A bean counter with a gun?

An IRS Special Agent does carry a gun.
https://www.jobs.irs.gov/resources/job-descriptions/irs-criminal-investigation-special-agent

Still struggling to understand what type of tax enforcement requires a gun

This is perhaps the easiest part of the entire case to understand. IRS agents conduct raids on people who don't pay their taxes and are ordered to seize assets (houses, cars, jewelry, cash, etc.). You don't think that perhaps there is an element of danger to that job? You think there is 100% peaceful compliance when criminals get their assets siezed?

Okay, wow. Calm down there. It was a simple comment. I'm well aware of efforts to seize assets, etc., for those not paying their taxes. I didn't know that was actually done by someone employed by IRS; I thought it might done by another federal LE arm, like the FBI. I've never evaded tax payments so I simply didn't know and honestly, with what seems like a lax approach to crime enforcement nowadays, it struck me as odd that we would arm IRS agents. I mean, I don't expect 100% peaceful compliance with ANY type of criminal but it also strikes me that there are many ways to seize assets beyond a knock at the door by an armed official. Are we suddenly championing armed officials for non-violent crimes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That hes a LEO and he refused to talk with th edetectives until he had a alwyer is a lesson to us all. He knows the cops have one motive- stick it on him.

Whispers on ND are that the dead guy was an exbf of Christine's.

What's ND?

I assume Next Door.

Has seemed like a love triangle from the jump.

Giving the benefit of the doubt and going with crazy ex, prior to marriage, who got more crazy with age and maybe drugs.

I’m one who says it’s normally the husband but I don’t think so here. I’m afraid this poor man tried to save his sweet wife.

It sort of reminds me of this story with Gret Glyer:
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/06/police-fairfax-city-man-shot-dead-lying-in-bed-next-to-wife-family-acquaintance-arrested/

Yes, it does seem kind of similar to the Gret Glyer story. Perhaps the male victim had some kind of infatuation with the au pair or the wife.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That hes a LEO and he refused to talk with th edetectives until he had a alwyer is a lesson to us all. He knows the cops have one motive- stick it on him.

Whispers on ND are that the dead guy was an exbf of Christine's.

What's ND?

I assume Next Door.

Has seemed like a love triangle from the jump.

Giving the benefit of the doubt and going with crazy ex, prior to marriage, who got more crazy with age and maybe drugs.

I’m one who says it’s normally the husband but I don’t think so here. I’m afraid this poor man tried to save his sweet wife.

It sort of reminds me of this story with Gret Glyer:
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/06/police-fairfax-city-man-shot-dead-lying-in-bed-next-to-wife-family-acquaintance-arrested/

Yes, it does seem kind of similar to the Gret Glyer story. Perhaps the male victim had some kind of infatuation with the au pair or the wife.

This seems to be the most likely. I’m betting he was infatuated with the wife, since he stabbed her and left the Au pair unharmed. His age suggests he could be an ex boyfriend. Interestingly though, the husband didn’t know him… you’d think if he was acquainted with the wife, he would be on the husband’s radar. No forced entry, hmmmm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP who thinks murdered male was BF of au pair. Could this be a stalking situation? The homeowners confronted the BF or were surprised to see him? The au pairs’ “friend” was attempting a break -in?

This is how my mind works. Just tossing this out there.

That was one of my initial thoughts, but the kid being removed and the husband not cooperating makes me think there is more to the story

Waiting for an attorney is not “not cooperating “. It’s the correct thing to do. Removing the kid makes sense until they can determine she’s safe with him.

+1if there is any chance you may be accused of double homicide you wait for a lawyer! Obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That hes a LEO and he refused to talk with th edetectives until he had a alwyer is a lesson to us all. He knows the cops have one motive- stick it on him.

Whispers on ND are that the dead guy was an exbf of Christine's.

What's ND?

I assume Next Door.

Has seemed like a love triangle from the jump.

Giving the benefit of the doubt and going with crazy ex, prior to marriage, who got more crazy with age and maybe drugs.

I’m one who says it’s normally the husband but I don’t think so here. I’m afraid this poor man tried to save his sweet wife.

It sort of reminds me of this story with Gret Glyer:
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/06/police-fairfax-city-man-shot-dead-lying-in-bed-next-to-wife-family-acquaintance-arrested/

Yes, it does seem kind of similar to the Gret Glyer story. Perhaps the male victim had some kind of infatuation with the au pair or the wife.

This seems to be the most likely. I’m betting he was infatuated with the wife, since he stabbed her and left the Au pair unharmed. His age suggests he could be an ex boyfriend. Interestingly though, the husband didn’t know him… you’d think if he was acquainted with the wife, he would be on the husband’s radar. No forced entry, hmmmm

I dont think it was an ex boyfriend, the wife is not from this area (eg not high school) but the alleged stabber was. Timing wise, she and her husband moved here from NY area I believe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That hes a LEO and he refused to talk with th edetectives until he had a alwyer is a lesson to us all. He knows the cops have one motive- stick it on him.

Whispers on ND are that the dead guy was an exbf of Christine's.

What's ND?

I assume Next Door.

Has seemed like a love triangle from the jump.

Giving the benefit of the doubt and going with crazy ex, prior to marriage, who got more crazy with age and maybe drugs.

I’m one who says it’s normally the husband but I don’t think so here. I’m afraid this poor man tried to save his sweet wife.

It sort of reminds me of this story with Gret Glyer:
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/06/police-fairfax-city-man-shot-dead-lying-in-bed-next-to-wife-family-acquaintance-arrested/

Yes, it does seem kind of similar to the Gret Glyer story. Perhaps the male victim had some kind of infatuation with the au pair or the wife.

This seems to be the most likely. I’m betting he was infatuated with the wife, since he stabbed her and left the Au pair unharmed. His age suggests he could be an ex boyfriend. Interestingly though, the husband didn’t know him… you’d think if he was acquainted with the wife, he would be on the husband’s radar. No forced entry, hmmmm

I dont think it was an ex boyfriend, the wife is not from this area (eg not high school) but the alleged stabber was. Timing wise, she and her husband moved here from NY area I believe.

Sorry to clarify, they lived in NY, got married and later moved to Herndon. The stabber grew up in NOVA.