PreK teacher recommending redshirting my son

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Don’t listen to DCUM anti-redshirters. Some of them are literally insane.

If you want to put your child in on time, by all means do it. You know your child best.

I think some of the surprise in this thread is that the OP has already redshirted her son. He’s almost 6 and still in prek. So if she holds him back another year, which it definitely sounds like he doesn’t need from an academic and social side, then he will be a solid 1 to 1.5 years older than students in his class, even the ones on the older side. It’s kinda infantilism? And sorry but definitely odd if he would be turning 19 before he finishes high school. I mean why?

Sounds like her son is four and will turn five this May. So if she sends him to K on time, he will turn 6 in May of his K year. But she is considering redshirting, in which case he would be 5 for his prek year and 6 for his K year, turning 7 at the tail end.

He is already 5. So if she holds him back he will be 7 in kindergarten, which would mean he would be 19 as a senior in high school. He’d essentially be held back two years as she has already held him back from starting kindergarten at age 5 this year which he was several months before the school year started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Don’t listen to DCUM anti-redshirters. Some of them are literally insane.

If you want to put your child in on time, by all means do it. You know your child best.

I think some of the surprise in this thread is that the OP has already redshirted her son. He’s almost 6 and still in prek. So if she holds him back another year, which it definitely sounds like he doesn’t need from an academic and social side, then he will be a solid 1 to 1.5 years older than students in his class, even the ones on the older side. It’s kinda infantilism? And sorry but definitely odd if he would be turning 19 before he finishes high school. I mean why?

Sounds like her son is four and will turn five this May. So if she sends him to K on time, he will turn 6 in May of his K year. But she is considering redshirting, in which case he would be 5 for his prek year and 6 for his K year, turning 7 at the tail end.

He is already 5. So if she holds him back he will be 7 in kindergarten, which would mean he would be 19 as a senior in high school. He’d essentially be held back two years as she has already held him back from starting kindergarten at age 5 this year which he was several months before the school year started.

I don’t believe he is already five - where did she say this?

[Anonymous]

“His Birthday is mid May so he would turn 7 in May in Kinder if I did this. “

This means her kid is currently four, turning five this May.

[Anonymous]

NP. If she holds him back so he is 6 turning 7 in kindergarten then he is still technically going to be a 7 year old in kindergarten. My DS is in kindergarten now and is 5. He turns 6 just before he goes to first grade. Her son would be 7 finishing K when most kids are 5 finishing K. I too would be wary of what comes later. Having a 19 year old still attending high school is prob going to be an issue

[Anonymous]

Are you going to a public school - where class sizes are easily 27 kids?

Your kid might be doing just ok in a small nurturing quiet (aka prek), but the teacher is worried he will fall apart in a loud, large, and overwhelming Kinderg class - that is 2x as long of a day to boot.
He might be "ok", but it will tough and a struggle .
Hence the recommendation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. If she holds him back so he is 6 turning 7 in kindergarten then he is still technically going to be a 7 year old in kindergarten. My DS is in kindergarten now and is 5. He turns 6 just before he goes to first grade. Her son would be 7 finishing K when most kids are 5 finishing K. I too would be wary of what comes later. Having a 19 year old still attending high school is prob going to be an issue

Yes OP acknowledged that in her post, no one questioned that. But that doesn’t make him an already redshirted five year old right now which is what one PP was alleging.

However for a birthday in mid May, we are talking about what, maybe three weeks of school where he is 7? Hardly a big deal.

Still …doesn’t sound like redshirting is the right fit for her son. Being small isn’t a reason to redshirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Don’t listen to DCUM anti-redshirters. Some of them are literally insane.

If you want to put your child in on time, by all means do it. You know your child best.

I think some of the surprise in this thread is that the OP has already redshirted her son. He’s almost 6 and still in prek. So if she holds him back another year, which it definitely sounds like he doesn’t need from an academic and social side, then he will be a solid 1 to 1.5 years older than students in his class, even the ones on the older side. It’s kinda infantilism? And sorry but definitely odd if he would be turning 19 before he finishes high school. I mean why?

No, my son is 4 turning 5 in May and he’s in prek 4. -OP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a church affiliated preschool. They tend to lean towards holding summer unless the kid is obviously advanced or bigger.

She also said he wouldn’t be able to handle the extended day option which is a full day (an hour shorter than elementary school) and he’s doing well in it with the longer time. We just started in the spring.

So, simple solution. Switch him to a 9-3 preschool now so he gets used to it. He'll do great. He's right on target, not behind.

Yes, his school now is this time and he’s doing well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When she says he has a baby voice, is she saying he has a speech issue? Is his speech clear to other adults? Does he need a speech evaluation?

Based on your take there's no reason to wait on K, and maybe the school is just pro-redshirting, but teachers rarely come right out and suggest holding back--almost never, in my experience, even when you ask. Has the teacher ever flagged delays or suggested he needs some support outside of school?

No speech issues. He did speech as a baby and graduated by 2.
Just a young, sweet voice. He passed every social emotional skill on his evaluation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you going to a public school - where class sizes are easily 27 kids?

Your kid might be doing just ok in a small nurturing quiet (aka prek), but the teacher is worried he will fall apart in a loud, large, and overwhelming Kinderg class - that is 2x as long of a day to boot.
He might be "ok", but it will tough and a struggle .
Hence the recommendation

Yes, public school but class size is 18.
His current class size is 14 kids.
His current day is 1.5 hours shorter than my older son bus morning- bus afternoon.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn’t. He seems to be on track; the red-shirting stuff is bonkers and just not warranted unless you have a delayed or SN student.

[Anonymous]

Well since everyone has said go ahead and send, I will take the other side as I would definitely consider holding a small/quiet May boy. I have friends who did. If you don’t want to of course no need, but my nephew is one and has always struggled to keep up all the way through. Some kids just take longer. I held my late august Dd girl and she’s nowhere close to the oldest at her private school. So don’t do it if you don’t want but it’s not a crazy idea.

[Anonymous]

If you want to know why kindergarten seems so rigorous now when it didn't before, here it is.

UMC white people redshirt their perfectly normal and average kids, which skews the norms and expectations.

So now you have old ass kids in kindergarten-and they are usually all white and affluent. Minorities and BIPOC don't do this, usually because they can't afford another year of preschool.

So, who gets the short end of the stick again? You guessed it. If everyone just sent their kids to school on time, school would be more developmentally appropriate.

As it is, there are 13 year olds in my 6th graders class. My child is 11. Let my kid tell it, the 13 year olds are the smartest. My 8 year old was telling me about a boy turning 10 in her class in March-shes in 3rd grade. They aren't smart they are just OLD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to know why kindergarten seems so rigorous now when it didn't before, here it is.

UMC white people redshirt their perfectly normal and average kids, which skews the norms and expectations.

So now you have old ass kids in kindergarten-and they are usually all white and affluent. Minorities and BIPOC don't do this, usually because they can't afford another year of preschool.

So, who gets the short end of the stick again? You guessed it. If everyone just sent their kids to school on time, school would be more developmentally appropriate.

As it is, there are 13 year olds in my 6th graders class. My child is 11. Let my kid tell it, the 13 year olds are the smartest. My 8 year old was telling me about a boy turning 10 in her class in March-shes in 3rd grade. They aren't smart they are just OLD.

+1 Absolute affluenza move

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to know why kindergarten seems so rigorous now when it didn't before, here it is.

UMC white people redshirt their perfectly normal and average kids, which skews the norms and expectations.

So now you have old ass kids in kindergarten-and they are usually all white and affluent. Minorities and BIPOC don't do this, usually because they can't afford another year of preschool.

So, who gets the short end of the stick again? You guessed it. If everyone just sent their kids to school on time, school would be more developmentally appropriate.

As it is, there are 13 year olds in my 6th graders class. My child is 11. Let my kid tell it, the 13 year olds are the smartest. My 8 year old was telling me about a boy turning 10 in her class in March-shes in 3rd grade. They aren't smart they are just OLD.

You have it backwards. The standards changed and people reacted. But nice try blaming the awful white people. And this is generally a private school problem. Sounds like you go to a school that encourages this. Why do you stay?