On the “Catholic/conservative” scale, where is Villanova?

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Wait--what if anything is desirable about Catholic schools? Do you hope they meet another Catholic to marry or something?

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Anonymous wrote:I saw U of Scranton mentioned here—I grew up there (in the neighborhood the school is in) and always wondered why the hordes from NJ and Long Island paid $$$$$$$ to go there (merit aid leaves much to be desired).

I’m a Scranton grad, although it’s been a while. My classmates are by and large highly successful in their chosen fields (medicine, law, business etc) and are devoted to the school. It’s a great place for pre-professional training. You do a lot better coming out of there than a typical second tier liberal arts college, that’s for sure.

I live in PA and have several friends who went to Scranton and are incredibly kind, smart people. All with thriving careers, and like you said, very loyal to Scranton!

It's funny that you specifically mention kind. The one person I know who went to Scranton is probably the kindest person I know. Just a genuinely awesome soul. She's an NP with a great career, but more importantly she just makes the world a better place in a ton of different ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

ND is a reach for all, as is BC, though ND is a higher reach. BC's acceptance rate is in the high teens (ED is another story, of course).

Villanova is just a bit behind BC for acceptance rate. Villanova is nowhere near safety territory and hasn't been for years, even before test optional. (An actual safety would have an acceptance rate over 50%, at a minimum, and not have a reputation for yield protection.)

right, but to the question, where does V fall on the catholic/conservative scale where BC is and ND is ?

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

ND is a reach for all, as is BC, though ND is a higher reach. BC's acceptance rate is in the high teens (ED is another story, of course).

Villanova is just a bit behind BC for acceptance rate. Villanova is nowhere near safety territory and hasn't been for years, even before test optional. (An actual safety would have an acceptance rate over 50%, at a minimum, and not have a reputation for yield protection.)

right, but to the question, where does V fall on the catholic/conservative scale where BC is and ND is ?

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

ND is a reach for all, as is BC, though ND is a higher reach. BC's acceptance rate is in the high teens (ED is another story, of course).

Villanova is just a bit behind BC for acceptance rate. Villanova is nowhere near safety territory and hasn't been for years, even before test optional. (An actual safety would have an acceptance rate over 50%, at a minimum, and not have a reputation for yield protection.)

right, but to the question, where does V fall on the catholic/conservative scale where BC is and ND is ?

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just asking a question?

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

ND is a reach for all, as is BC, though ND is a higher reach. BC's acceptance rate is in the high teens (ED is another story, of course).

Villanova is just a bit behind BC for acceptance rate. Villanova is nowhere near safety territory and hasn't been for years, even before test optional. (An actual safety would have an acceptance rate over 50%, at a minimum, and not have a reputation for yield protection.)

right, but to the question, where does V fall on the catholic/conservative scale where BC is and ND is ?

Closer to BC

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Anonymous wrote:Compared to Georgetown, which has been destroyed by the woke mob/administrators and almost apologizes for it’s Catholic identity, Villanova is a breath of fresh air but by no means MAGA.

LOL

Villanova farms kids from Long Island like crazy, it definitely has a large MAGA contingency.

Nassau County voted for Biden 54-45, and they were tied 47-47 in Suffolk County.

That (LI going blue) is due more to demographics than anything else -- Long Island is still by far the most culturally conservative of the NYC suburbs. The white UMC and upper class suburbs on Long Island vote red, whereas their "peer" suburbs in places like Westchester and New Jersey vote overwhelmingly blue.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a junior, "average smart kid" (1400/3.9). We met with the school college counselor this week, and she said that based on what she saw in the early round, Villanova would be a low reach for him - by comparison, she said Lehigh and Colgate are targets. (He's an unhooked majority kid who wants to study business.) So unless you are someone who is competitive for T10 schools, I wouldn't call Villanova a safety.

northeastern > colgate > lehigh > villanova > fordham

Aaaand here's one of our crazy Northeastern posters.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a junior, "average smart kid" (1400/3.9). We met with the school college counselor this week, and she said that based on what she saw in the early round, Villanova would be a low reach for him - by comparison, she said Lehigh and Colgate are targets. (He's an unhooked majority kid who wants to study business.) So unless you are someone who is competitive for T10 schools, I wouldn't call Villanova a safety.

northeastern > colgate > lehigh > villanova > fordham

Aaaand here's one of our crazy Northeastern posters.

To be fair, I think it’s just the one.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a junior, "average smart kid" (1400/3.9). We met with the school college counselor this week, and she said that based on what she saw in the early round, Villanova would be a low reach for him - by comparison, she said Lehigh and Colgate are targets. (He's an unhooked majority kid who wants to study business.) So unless you are someone who is competitive for T10 schools, I wouldn't call Villanova a safety.

northeastern > colgate > lehigh > villanova > fordham

Aaaand here's one of our crazy Northeastern posters.

cmon seriously - which school would you put in front of Northeastern- I get there is some over exuberant boosters on this site but Northeastern easily tops these schools. Enough bashing

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

OP, from all of your comments I don't think a Catholic university is a good fit for your child. Look elsewhere; these schools are not going to change for you.

Yeah, I think the OP will be hugely disappointed to learn that BC, while Jesuit, is still very much a Catholic school.

I went to BC as a non-Catholic (and from a family that never went to church or practiced any religion). It's an awesome school and more about community than it is about religion or the Catholic church.

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Anonymous wrote:Assume BC is a match/fit, all good, etc and ND is a high target and kid wouldn’t attend if it was free.

If he digs BC, the right "likely" school is Marquette, not Nova.

Curious why you say Marquette being similar to BC?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if still true, but in the past Villanova was referred to as Vanilla Nova by many.

Villanova is a solid school for academics with a great location & attractive campus.

Villanova's overlap schools are: Boston College, Fordham, Georgetown, Lehigh, Notre Dame, N'eatern, U Penn, and the University of Virginia.

My main concern regarding Villanova would focus on diversity--especially the lack of geographic diversity.

That is the way many of the Jesuit universities are, despite being more progressive than other Catholic schools, they are mostly still white students (and on many campuses the BIPOC are not truly accepted)

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

OP, from all of your comments I don't think a Catholic university is a good fit for your child. Look elsewhere; these schools are not going to change for you.

Yeah, I think the OP will be hugely disappointed to learn that BC, while Jesuit, is still very much a Catholic school.

I went to BC as a non-Catholic (and from a family that never went to church or practiced any religion). It's an awesome school and more about community than it is about religion or the Catholic church.

This was exactly our sense when we toured.

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is probably more Catholic and conservative than BC, but a bit less than Notre Dame.

OP: Why would your son reject Notre Dame ? Does he envision ND as being too Catholic or too strict ?

I visited ND about 18 months ago. Very attractive students, beautiful campus, kind people, but would not be a good fit for a partier.

too catholic; too conservative; too remote; too cold; too insular; too "I don't want to be around anyone I know who goes there"

OP, from all of your comments I don't think a Catholic university is a good fit for your child. Look elsewhere; these schools are not going to change for you.

Yeah, I think the OP will be hugely disappointed to learn that BC, while Jesuit, is still very much a Catholic school.

I went to BC as a non-Catholic (and from a family that never went to church or practiced any religion). It's an awesome school and more about community than it is about religion or the Catholic church.

This was exactly our sense when we toured.

BC made sure to include a Jewish kid on a recent info session panel. He was great and told a funny story about his grandmother warned him against Catholics (it was funny the way he told the story).