Has Harry Completely Lost his mind?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

He:s jealous of his brother and wants to be the heir but. Instead, is wasting his life by complaining and playing the victim. "It's always somebody else's fault.".

I agree that has severe mental problems but he seems to enjoy them and it pays for his lifestyle. Both he and his wife are sad and pathetic people who have one story they will tell and retell.

People keep saying this but I don't see it? He wants the love and respect of his family, which he perceives as being something that is reserved for the heir, and he's talking about how that is hurtful. That's different from saying he wants to be the heir.

Everyone wants their families to love, accept, protect, and support them. Everyone. It's a basic human need. When people don't get this, it does create dysfunction. In Harry's family, you only get this if you are the crown prince or princess, or at least that is his experience and perception. In my family, you only get it if you are one of the oldest and you marry and have children, because that's what my parents value. But that doesn't mean Harry wants to be the crown prince. It means he wants the love and affection of his family EVEN THOUGH he's not the crown prince. He wants his father's and brothers' love despite the fact that he has lower "status" within the family business. That's normal and it's healthy for him to acknowledge it.

AFAIK, Harry has never once expressed any desire at all to be a ruler or to take on the role of heir. At all. He seems to dislike that aspect of the family business quite a bit, actually. Had he grown up in a non-royal family, I doubt he'd be angling to be CEO of a business or become a politician. It just does not seem to be his nature at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it weird to see it play out so publicly, but I do wind up in the camp of: that family is incredibly dysfunctional/toxic, and he sounds like someone grappling with those issues in a relatively healthy way.

I'm from a very dysfunctional family that does not claim to be anointed by god as rulers of an empire, and even despite that difference, I recognize the signs of dysfunction. The difficulties of direct communication of basic needs like affection, the use of a lot of passive-aggressive means of communication or the expectation for family members to just know what certain members (always the people at the top of the family hierarchy, which in the royals is easy to figure out) want or need and give it to them without complaint. There are golden child, scapegoat, and black sheep dynamics. You see a lot of enmeshment with family, especially around decisions like who you will marry and how and when you will have kids, and how they will be raised.

Yes, a lot of this is viewed as a normal part of being in the royal family. Does not make it less dysfunctional! Actually makes it worse because it's a self-reinforcing system that can't be change for argued against. In my own dysfunctional family, things actually are better for some of the the more recent generations because we have found ways to set boundaries and make other choices. It does result in some amount of estrangement (not total estrangement, but strained relationships with certain family members), but it is better for our children and has enabled us to make healthier choices for ourselves. In the royal family, setting those boundaries and making healthier choices gets second guessed not just by the family itself (which includes the monarch of the country you belong to) but also by Parliament and the press. That's insane!

He does not sound crazy to me. I do think having this play out in public may be something he later regrets. I well understand the desire to actually finally achieve clarity on these issues because I know what it's like to deal with gaslighting and passive aggressive communication your entire life and just want it to end. But the public declarations will likely escalate tensions and can't be taken back. Plus they drag in lots of strangers and that can confuse things.

But the actual things he's talking about and saying? Don't sound crazy to me. It sounds healthy. It sounds like he's been brainwashed by dysfunction most of his life and only recently discovered, through is family of choice, what functional, healthy relationships can look like. It takes time to acclimate.

Harry and Megan need money, even if just for security. They have no marketable skills other than her acting. Either they sell all the dirt they have for as much as they can get or the go bust.

Harry has few marketable skills. Megan has a bunch of marketable skills, even beyond acting. She's a decent spokeswoman, she has a long history of charitable advocacy, she has experience building an online presence and a brand. These are "normal" skills but they are actually pretty helpful for their current situation. Megan is reasonably prepared for figuring out how to make money from their current situation; Harry is not. I sense that she feels this is a manageable situation not that different from where she was at before marrying him, but with more complications, but that he has absolutely no idea how to handle because he's lived in a weird bubble his entire life.

None of those pay the bills unless you're suggesting that they take a large cut of money they raise.

Yes, actually, you can make money by creating a brand and building an online presence, especially if you already have a high profile and are physically attractive. Lots of female celebs have gone this route, from Goop to Jessica Alba and Jessica Simpson. This is how the Kardashians make money as well. It's not a "normal" job but it does require a specific skill set, that Megan appears to have, and an existing high profile from acting, modeling, family connections, etc. Which Megan had prior to Harry and has even more of now.

The issue for them has been that if they are working royals, they can't do that kind of work because it's viewed as exploiting royal titles for money. But if they no longer take an income from the BRF, then they can absolutely do it. Lots of royals have done stuff like this. It's how Fergie supported herself post-divorce (not very well, but she was older and not as disciplined, plus there were fewer opportunities for this kind of brand work back in the 90s). There are also European royals from countries without active working royals who do a version of this, using their titles and elevated social standing to parlay it into paying gigs for brands/charities/advocacy organizations.

No, Megan and Harry are not going to apply for regular person jobs and fill out W-2s or whatever, that is not really a realistic option for them. Megan could theoretically return to acting but I actually think she's now too famous to do that -- to heavily associated with something else, can you imagine the uproar if she took a standard film or television role and did even a chaste love scene with another actor? People would lose their minds. So this brand ambassador/producer/content creator gig is probably their best bet and she's actually pretty well suited to it even if he isn't. He's not suited to anything, royals are raised to be weird useless people.

Are you saying she's too posh to work now? She was a royal for about 5 minutes. Her resume isn't all that impressive. But she will need money and lots of it going forwards. She's going to have to work for it.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

+1

I haven't read his book, but from other reports he seems stuck on being the spare. I recall a clip of him at an event soon after they left the UK. Early on in his speech he said it's as if people think "oh.. yes... that's Diana's other son." It's not like he was shipped off to some remote place and never mentioned. I think, too, that there is a lot there regarding his mother's death.

He was always one of the most popular members of the royal family up until 2019 or 2020. He and many others cheering him now are forgetting this fact.

Pp here. That's how I remember it as well. Not forgotten at all. Now I think I should read the book and see what he's talking about. I always kind of preferred stories about Harry, William was too perfect.

Now I want to read the book from the Firm about how they kept Harry in line, masterclass in brand management and pr.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

He:s jealous of his brother and wants to be the heir but. Instead, is wasting his life by complaining and playing the victim. "It's always somebody else's fault.".

I agree that has severe mental problems but he seems to enjoy them and it pays for his lifestyle. Both he and his wife are sad and pathetic people who have one story they will tell and retell.

People keep saying this but I don't see it? He wants the love and respect of his family, which he perceives as being something that is reserved for the heir, and he's talking about how that is hurtful. That's different from saying he wants to be the heir.

Everyone wants their families to love, accept, protect, and support them. Everyone. It's a basic human need. When people don't get this, it does create dysfunction. In Harry's family, you only get this if you are the crown prince or princess, or at least that is his experience and perception. In my family, you only get it if you are one of the oldest and you marry and have children, because that's what my parents value. But that doesn't mean Harry wants to be the crown prince. It means he wants the love and affection of his family EVEN THOUGH he's not the crown prince. He wants his father's and brothers' love despite the fact that he has lower "status" within the family business. That's normal and it's healthy for him to acknowledge it.

AFAIK, Harry has never once expressed any desire at all to be a ruler or to take on the role of heir. At all. He seems to dislike that aspect of the family business quite a bit, actually. Had he grown up in a non-royal family, I doubt he'd be angling to be CEO of a business or become a politician. It just does not seem to be his nature at all.

Have you ever had your character absolutely reemed in public and then that person is shocked YOU won’t apologize? Very upsetting.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m team Harry. The royal family is insufferable. Good for Harry and Megan for taking a bad situation and finding some good. It’s about time the truth is being revealed.

I often come back to this fact:

Before marrying into the royal family, Megan was a successful actress who did tons of charity work in her spare time (like for years and years, it was not something she started doing to attract Harry, it's a genuine passion), she'd started a side business, she had lots of friends. Like if you look at her pre-Harry life, it looks pretty darn functional. Yes, she got married and divorced. But she didn't have kids and that divorce was pretty low drama. She had family strife (I can relate to that) but she seemed to be handling it in healthy ways -- she has a very good relationship with her mom and one of her half sisters, and she was dealing with it well enough to have an otherwise healthy and productive life.

But if you look at Harry's life pre-Megan, you see a TON of red flags and dysfunction. Obviously everything with his parents' marriage and divorce, plus his mom's death and everything that followed. Lots of signs of dysfunction in his relationship with Harry. No truly serious relationships but a couple on again off again things that didn't go anywhere. He doesn't have a healthy, functional relationship with any of his parent figures -- his mom is dead, his dad is extremely repressed and distant (and busy), his grandmother was the queen and not the most nurturing person in the world, his grandfather even less so. It doesn't appear he had or was allowed close relationships with the Spencers. He was not independent at all, and the one period of his life where he was somewhat independent (his military service) involved fighting in a war, which is a traumatic event that can really screw a person up. He has a lot of friends but it's unclear how many are close, true friends -- that world is the sort of predictable set of pre-ordained "friends" that you grow up with and are expected to socialize among and marry into. That's very different that developing a series of friendships with classmates and colleagues and roommates and neighbors over the course of a normal life, as Meghan has.

Megan has led a fairly normal and functional life until meeting Harry and I see most of her decisions since then as an effort to continue to do so despite obstacles posed by his position and family. Megan and their kids are the first normal/healthy relationships Harry has had in his entire life. He is flailing a bit but that's honestly not surprising.

The most questionable life choice Meghan has ever made was marrying Harry -- she could have stayed single, had kids on her own, or maybe found someone else to marry (though tricky due to her age and her job/lifestyle). The best life choice Harry has ever made is marrying Meghan and getting some distance from his messed up family.

Meghan was actively trolling the UK for a high profile love connection. She didn’t want normal she wanted more.

What other high profile men in the UK did she date? I don't buy this, sorry. I don't get why people want to turn Megan into some kind of scheming manipulator. I'm not like some huge MM fan but she seems to genuinely have just fallen for a guy who has a messed up family and not understood the extent to which s messed up family would impact her life before getting in deep. Likely her age played a role, as if you have a serious relationship in your late 30s, it's much harder to pull back and say "wait, this is not what I expected" before it's too late. Now they have kids together and she has to see it through. And she does seem to genuinely love him.

I bet some part of her wonders if maybe she should have been more cautious about getting involved with someone this high profile in such a weird position back when it all started. But it's too late now.

I just find it hard to believe that she was looking for this situation. It actually kind of sucks for her -- she quit her job and it would be hard to go back to her old career, changed her entire life, and then his family was INSANE and he was deeply unhappy. She seems to be doing the best she can with a bad situation, honestly.

She will never set foot on another cable TV set. She got a leg up for life, maybe not as much as they think they “need” but she will not be working in the sense of anything she did in her past again. She was asking friends to set up dates, for that matter didn’t she get set up on a blind date with Harry? Also I think she was messaging a famous football/soccer player to name one.

So your evidence for "she was actively trolling the UK for a high profile love connection" is that you think she went on a blind date with Harry (not sure this is true, didn't they meet over Instagram?) and might have messaged a footballer?

She was a single actress in her early/mid 30s. She was "dating". The word you are looking for is "dating". That's not a crime or evidence she's some kind of master manipulator.

I’m saying she didn’t want to stay single and successful, she wanted to marry a well know celebrity and now she’s well known and seemingly hates it.

Does she hate it though? She seems positively beaming and enjoying the attention since settling back in Cali. Getting invites to things a b-list actress never would get prior.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

He:s jealous of his brother and wants to be the heir but. Instead, is wasting his life by complaining and playing the victim. "It's always somebody else's fault.".

I agree that has severe mental problems but he seems to enjoy them and it pays for his lifestyle. Both he and his wife are sad and pathetic people who have one story they will tell and retell.

People keep saying this but I don't see it? He wants the love and respect of his family, which he perceives as being something that is reserved for the heir, and he's talking about how that is hurtful. That's different from saying he wants to be the heir.

Everyone wants their families to love, accept, protect, and support them. Everyone. It's a basic human need. When people don't get this, it does create dysfunction. In Harry's family, you only get this if you are the crown prince or princess, or at least that is his experience and perception. In my family, you only get it if you are one of the oldest and you marry and have children, because that's what my parents value. But that doesn't mean Harry wants to be the crown prince. It means he wants the love and affection of his family EVEN THOUGH he's not the crown prince. He wants his father's and brothers' love despite the fact that he has lower "status" within the family business. That's normal and it's healthy for him to acknowledge it.

AFAIK, Harry has never once expressed any desire at all to be a ruler or to take on the role of heir. At all. He seems to dislike that aspect of the family business quite a bit, actually. Had he grown up in a non-royal family, I doubt he'd be angling to be CEO of a business or become a politician. It just does not seem to be his nature at all.

Have you ever had your character absolutely reemed in public and then that person is shocked YOU won’t apologize? Very upsetting.

Yeah, I feel for Kate. Exactly what is happening to her with Meghan and Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

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Anonymous wrote:Full Disclosure - I don't care about Royals and Harry but it seems to me that the young man has completely lost his mind. I suppose he needs to make money but backstabbing his own family is not the best way to earn it. Then I hear he wants to reconcile with his brother/father? Are you f'king kidding me?? What is he thinking??

Ever heard the phrase “crazy like a fox?” If he’s mentally ill this is an awfully profitable bout with mental illness, plus he gets to air his grievances. Not bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like our family squabbles, with the main difference being no one cares about us!

This is what I keep thinking! This is kind of rote, moderate dysfunction kinda stuff. Really doesn't need the extreme media attention they are seeking. Oyyy.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m team Harry. The royal family is insufferable. Good for Harry and Megan for taking a bad situation and finding some good. It’s about time the truth is being revealed.

I often come back to this fact:

Before marrying into the royal family, Megan was a successful actress who did tons of charity work in her spare time (like for years and years, it was not something she started doing to attract Harry, it's a genuine passion), she'd started a side business, she had lots of friends. Like if you look at her pre-Harry life, it looks pretty darn functional. Yes, she got married and divorced. But she didn't have kids and that divorce was pretty low drama. She had family strife (I can relate to that) but she seemed to be handling it in healthy ways -- she has a very good relationship with her mom and one of her half sisters, and she was dealing with it well enough to have an otherwise healthy and productive life.

But if you look at Harry's life pre-Megan, you see a TON of red flags and dysfunction. Obviously everything with his parents' marriage and divorce, plus his mom's death and everything that followed. Lots of signs of dysfunction in his relationship with Harry. No truly serious relationships but a couple on again off again things that didn't go anywhere. He doesn't have a healthy, functional relationship with any of his parent figures -- his mom is dead, his dad is extremely repressed and distant (and busy), his grandmother was the queen and not the most nurturing person in the world, his grandfather even less so. It doesn't appear he had or was allowed close relationships with the Spencers. He was not independent at all, and the one period of his life where he was somewhat independent (his military service) involved fighting in a war, which is a traumatic event that can really screw a person up. He has a lot of friends but it's unclear how many are close, true friends -- that world is the sort of predictable set of pre-ordained "friends" that you grow up with and are expected to socialize among and marry into. That's very different that developing a series of friendships with classmates and colleagues and roommates and neighbors over the course of a normal life, as Meghan has.

Megan has led a fairly normal and functional life until meeting Harry and I see most of her decisions since then as an effort to continue to do so despite obstacles posed by his position and family. Megan and their kids are the first normal/healthy relationships Harry has had in his entire life. He is flailing a bit but that's honestly not surprising.

The most questionable life choice Meghan has ever made was marrying Harry -- she could have stayed single, had kids on her own, or maybe found someone else to marry (though tricky due to her age and her job/lifestyle). The best life choice Harry has ever made is marrying Meghan and getting some distance from his messed up family.

All of this is "fact"?

Her parents are divorced and so are his. But somehow only his family divorce was dysfunctional?

He had friends and she had friends. But hers are real and his are shallow connections?

His prior life was more unusual than hers for sure - he was in the BRF. But the rest of this is a lot of projection.

The "fact" is that Megan had a healthy, functional life before meeting Harry, and Harry appears to have had an unhappy, dysfunctional life. I mean, listen to him -- he's telling us that he's been miserable pretty much his entire life.

Megan's parents are divorced but she appears to have dealt with it and also have figured out how to move on from that dysfunction. Harry's parents are divorced in one of the most famous divorces of the 20th century, his mother subsequently died in a tragic accident, and it's pretty clear from his book and these interviews that he and his family have never addressed the trauma and dysfunction at the heart of these events in the last 30 years.

Megan has maintained her friendships with her pre-Harry friends through her courtship and marriage, and even through the last few crazy years. Her closest friends (like Abigail Spencer and other actor/entertainer friends that she met during or pre-Suits) are still her closest friends. Harry's closest "friend" was his brother and they are estranged. He was at some point reasonably close with a few cousins or relatives, but the family estrangement is clearly making those relationships strained. And to my knowledge he does not have a single friend from his school days or military service with whom he still spends time or stays in touch. He moved to another country and it appears his wife and kids are his whole life. That speaks to a much less healthy life before they met.

You say "well he was BRF and she wasn't" like this is a minor difference. This is THE difference -- he is from a super dysfunctional family and has never had a chance to fix it or move beyond that dysfunction, whereas Megan has some dysfunction in her history but appears to have figure out how to deal with it and build a good life for herself outside of it. It's a huge difference. Megan is the source of function and stability within their relationship. Harry appears to have very little emotional maturity or ability to create that sense of security. He is trying to learn now. Megan figured this stuff out back in her 20s.

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How many times do we have to hear these talentless layabout conniving bozos repeat the SAME babble over and over and over? Enough already.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

He:s jealous of his brother and wants to be the heir but. Instead, is wasting his life by complaining and playing the victim. "It's always somebody else's fault.".

I agree that has severe mental problems but he seems to enjoy them and it pays for his lifestyle. Both he and his wife are sad and pathetic people who have one story they will tell and retell.

People keep saying this but I don't see it? He wants the love and respect of his family, which he perceives as being something that is reserved for the heir, and he's talking about how that is hurtful. That's different from saying he wants to be the heir.

Everyone wants their families to love, accept, protect, and support them. Everyone. It's a basic human need. When people don't get this, it does create dysfunction. In Harry's family, you only get this if you are the crown prince or princess, or at least that is his experience and perception. In my family, you only get it if you are one of the oldest and you marry and have children, because that's what my parents value. But that doesn't mean Harry wants to be the crown prince. It means he wants the love and affection of his family EVEN THOUGH he's not the crown prince. He wants his father's and brothers' love despite the fact that he has lower "status" within the family business. That's normal and it's healthy for him to acknowledge it.

AFAIK, Harry has never once expressed any desire at all to be a ruler or to take on the role of heir. At all. He seems to dislike that aspect of the family business quite a bit, actually. Had he grown up in a non-royal family, I doubt he'd be angling to be CEO of a business or become a politician. It just does not seem to be his nature at all.

Have you ever had your character absolutely reemed in public and then that person is shocked YOU won’t apologize? Very upsetting.

I am the PP and amazingly, this has happened to me. Not "in public" in the way the H&M stuff is in public, but yes -- I have had someone try to destroy my reputation within my community and then demand that I apologize for stuff I didn't do and act put-upon that I declined to do so.

People do crazy stuff every day. It's really not limited to the British Royal Family.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times do we have to hear these talentless layabout conniving bozos repeat the SAME babble over and over and over? Enough already.

Good job boosting thins thread you apparently have no interest in in Recent Topics.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m team Harry. The royal family is insufferable. Good for Harry and Megan for taking a bad situation and finding some good. It’s about time the truth is being revealed.

I often come back to this fact:

Before marrying into the royal family, Megan was a successful actress who did tons of charity work in her spare time (like for years and years, it was not something she started doing to attract Harry, it's a genuine passion), she'd started a side business, she had lots of friends. Like if you look at her pre-Harry life, it looks pretty darn functional. Yes, she got married and divorced. But she didn't have kids and that divorce was pretty low drama. She had family strife (I can relate to that) but she seemed to be handling it in healthy ways -- she has a very good relationship with her mom and one of her half sisters, and she was dealing with it well enough to have an otherwise healthy and productive life.

But if you look at Harry's life pre-Megan, you see a TON of red flags and dysfunction. Obviously everything with his parents' marriage and divorce, plus his mom's death and everything that followed. Lots of signs of dysfunction in his relationship with Harry. No truly serious relationships but a couple on again off again things that didn't go anywhere. He doesn't have a healthy, functional relationship with any of his parent figures -- his mom is dead, his dad is extremely repressed and distant (and busy), his grandmother was the queen and not the most nurturing person in the world, his grandfather even less so. It doesn't appear he had or was allowed close relationships with the Spencers. He was not independent at all, and the one period of his life where he was somewhat independent (his military service) involved fighting in a war, which is a traumatic event that can really screw a person up. He has a lot of friends but it's unclear how many are close, true friends -- that world is the sort of predictable set of pre-ordained "friends" that you grow up with and are expected to socialize among and marry into. That's very different that developing a series of friendships with classmates and colleagues and roommates and neighbors over the course of a normal life, as Meghan has.

Megan has led a fairly normal and functional life until meeting Harry and I see most of her decisions since then as an effort to continue to do so despite obstacles posed by his position and family. Megan and their kids are the first normal/healthy relationships Harry has had in his entire life. He is flailing a bit but that's honestly not surprising.

The most questionable life choice Meghan has ever made was marrying Harry -- she could have stayed single, had kids on her own, or maybe found someone else to marry (though tricky due to her age and her job/lifestyle). The best life choice Harry has ever made is marrying Meghan and getting some distance from his messed up family.

All of this is "fact"?

Her parents are divorced and so are his. But somehow only his family divorce was dysfunctional?

He had friends and she had friends. But hers are real and his are shallow connections?

His prior life was more unusual than hers for sure - he was in the BRF. But the rest of this is a lot of projection.

The "fact" is that Megan had a healthy, functional life before meeting Harry, and Harry appears to have had an unhappy, dysfunctional life. I mean, listen to him -- he's telling us that he's been miserable pretty much his entire life.

Megan's parents are divorced but she appears to have dealt with it and also have figured out how to move on from that dysfunction. Harry's parents are divorced in one of the most famous divorces of the 20th century, his mother subsequently died in a tragic accident, and it's pretty clear from his book and these interviews that he and his family have never addressed the trauma and dysfunction at the heart of these events in the last 30 years.

Megan has maintained her friendships with her pre-Harry friends through her courtship and marriage, and even through the last few crazy years. Her closest friends (like Abigail Spencer and other actor/entertainer friends that she met during or pre-Suits) are still her closest friends. Harry's closest "friend" was his brother and they are estranged. He was at some point reasonably close with a few cousins or relatives, but the family estrangement is clearly making those relationships strained. And to my knowledge he does not have a single friend from his school days or military service with whom he still spends time or stays in touch. He moved to another country and it appears his wife and kids are his whole life. That speaks to a much less healthy life before they met.

You say "well he was BRF and she wasn't" like this is a minor difference. This is THE difference -- he is from a super dysfunctional family and has never had a chance to fix it or move beyond that dysfunction, whereas Megan has some dysfunction in her history but appears to have figure out how to deal with it and build a good life for herself outside of it. It's a huge difference. Megan is the source of function and stability within their relationship. Harry appears to have very little emotional maturity or ability to create that sense of security. He is trying to learn now. Megan figured this stuff out back in her 20s.

Good analysis.

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It’s a train crash. Quite pathetic how he is reducing himself to such a spectacle. It’s clear that there is no one close to him who truly cares for his well being.