What's Behind the Rise of Lonely, Single Men

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Anonymous wrote:Boys and men are TERRIBLE. F**k them. Then point and laugh at them because they are so TERRIBLE. HAHAHA, Stupid lazy males!

My wife!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys and men are TERRIBLE. F**k them. Then point and laugh at them because they are so TERRIBLE. HAHAHA, Stupid lazy males!

My wife!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a married guy, so I only hear anecdotally what is going on out there in the dating world. Everyone in my peer group is either married or successfully dating after divorce, regardless of gender.

But then I see all of these articles about lonely men, MGTOW, "female hypergamy," women happier single, etc. Am I in a class bubble? Is the "only 20 percent of men get 90 percent of the women" thing only happening outside of the professional class? Because it sure seems like a lot of nerdy, rich people are monogamously paired where I live (Bay Area). There are very few hot trophy wives or single professional women hooking up with men who are objectively attractive in a physical sense.

If you are in the professional class in the bay area, your husband and your friends are part of that 20 percent

yes, well off men aren't the ones having a hard time finding women to date.

Most of the incels and men who have turned to violence against women are not the UMC professional class.

If you went to college and were able to talk with women without feeling overly competitive against them, you are not part of this incel/anti-women group.

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Anonymous wrote:For the DCUM crowd worried about your boys--here is the silver lining: College will be easier than ever for your boys to get into. Boys generally can't hack it so standards are low. Combined with the birth dirth, your boys should be at Ivies if they can just keep from attacking girls or dropping out of society for the next few years.

The supreme court is about to ban race in admissions, gender will be next. If anything colleges will start skewing more heavily female.

Start?! They are by increasingly larger percentages every year.

I think this is a funny one. Do they really think it will increase the participation of white males?

Think what? Men don’t have the academic records that women do and can’t get into college at the same rates. If your kid is a good student and can compete with girls, you are all set

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Anonymous wrote:For the DCUM crowd worried about your boys--here is the silver lining: College will be easier than ever for your boys to get into. Boys generally can't hack it so standards are low. Combined with the birth dirth, your boys should be at Ivies if they can just keep from attacking girls or dropping out of society for the next few years.

The supreme court is about to ban race in admissions, gender will be next. If anything colleges will start skewing more heavily female.

Start?! They are by increasingly larger percentages every year.

I think this is a funny one. Do they really think it will increase the participation of white males?

Think what? Men don’t have the academic records that women do and can’t get into college at the same rates. If your kid is a good student and can compete with girls, you are all set

I think it's funny that the supreme court thinks that by getting rid of race in admissions they will increase the number of white males in college. Maybe I'm wrong and it will turn an entire generation of men onto college. But right now Asians are way out performing any other race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many women are realizing that being single is much better than putting up with a disrespectful, selfish, entitled man. Sure, having a good, empathetic, helpful husband is great for women. But studies have shown that an unhappy marriage has a horrible effect on women's health in particular, because women end up taking on most of the household burdens. A lot of women are realizing that the juice simply isn't worth the squeeze! Especially when you make your own money!

They take up 100% of the household burdens if they are alone. That doesn’t make any sense.

Sure it does. If they are going to be doing most of the household burdens either way at least they won't be getting disrespected WHILE they are doing them.

[Anonymous]

Men have been entitled and lazy for too long and young women have seen it. Young women grew up seeing their moms run around after a man, cleaning up after him, having him forget her birthday and forget Mother's Day and laugh about how bad her cooking is. They dont want any part of it and they realize the "fairy tale" is not all it's cooked up to be. They no longer are willing to settle for duds that act more as an anchor than as a helpmate

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Anonymous wrote:As a father, I signed my daughter up for GOTR and ran the 5ks with here several times.

My son was not allowed to join GOTR. There was not (and still isn’t) a running club for boys.

I signed him up for cub scouts and later Boy Scouts. But there is no longer a Boy Scouts. It doesn’t exist. It has been replaced with the co-educational group “Scouts-BSA” for girls and boys.

Meanwhile, my daughter’s Girl Scout troop is exclusively girls-only.

I think someone posted once that there is somewhat of an equivalent for boys for GOTR (my daughter was also in it).

But, ITA about the Boy Scouts. They should've kept it just boys. My kids were in Girls and Boys scouts.

Boy Scouts letting in girls is a desperate move brought on by bankruptcy and declining participation. Too many pedophilia scandals I guess.

+1 BSA bankrupted itself protecting pedophiles, so obviously this is being interpreted as . . . girls' fault somehow and this guy thinks girls are robbing boys of boy-only spaces. This is the mindset. Encounter non-ideal scenario, blame women. If no women nearby, blame girls. Repeat.

Lol, hilariously spot on!

This is the crux of it, men's poor attitudes and social/emotional ineptitude is impossible to hide any longer. They're blind to it. Game over.

[Anonymous]

One thing that would help is if men and boys stopped regarding women as status markers in competition with the other men and boys. A non-trivial motivation for a "hot girlfriend" isn't so much just because the guy wants that for himself. A big part of the incentive is that it will improve his standing with other guys. Same thing with trying to put up big numbers of women he's had sex with.

Men would mostly be happier if they stopped trying to impress other men. They'd treat women better too. And I think women would ultimately come to like them better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men have been entitled and lazy for too long and young women have seen it. Young women grew up seeing their moms run around after a man, cleaning up after him, having him forget her birthday and forget Mother's Day and laugh about how bad her cooking is. They dont want any part of it and they realize the "fairy tale" is not all it's cooked up to be. They no longer are willing to settle for duds that act more as an anchor than as a helpmate

I feel like you're projecting here. By "young women," do you mean "I?" And, by "men" do you mean your ex-husband or a former boyfriend or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a father, I signed my daughter up for GOTR and ran the 5ks with here several times.

My son was not allowed to join GOTR. There was not (and still isn’t) a running club for boys.

I signed him up for cub scouts and later Boy Scouts. But there is no longer a Boy Scouts. It doesn’t exist. It has been replaced with the co-educational group “Scouts-BSA” for girls and boys.

Meanwhile, my daughter’s Girl Scout troop is exclusively girls-only.

He can join the track team. I don't see this as a huge problem. Slight overcorrection from when girls' activities were more limited. I do think the girls in Boy Scouts thing is stupid, personally.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have been entitled and lazy for too long and young women have seen it. Young women grew up seeing their moms run around after a man, cleaning up after him, having him forget her birthday and forget Mother's Day and laugh about how bad her cooking is. They dont want any part of it and they realize the "fairy tale" is not all it's cooked up to be. They no longer are willing to settle for duds that act more as an anchor than as a helpmate

I feel like you're projecting here. By "young women," do you mean "I?" And, by "men" do you mean your ex-husband or a former boyfriend or something?

Lonely single men. The people we are discussing.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have been entitled and lazy for too long and young women have seen it. Young women grew up seeing their moms run around after a man, cleaning up after him, having him forget her birthday and forget Mother's Day and laugh about how bad her cooking is. They dont want any part of it and they realize the "fairy tale" is not all it's cooked up to be. They no longer are willing to settle for duds that act more as an anchor than as a helpmate

I feel like you're projecting here. By "young women," do you mean "I?" And, by "men" do you mean your ex-husband or a former boyfriend or something?

I mean women as a collective. Hence the widespread phenomenon

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a father, I signed my daughter up for GOTR and ran the 5ks with here several times.

My son was not allowed to join GOTR. There was not (and still isn’t) a running club for boys.

I signed him up for cub scouts and later Boy Scouts. But there is no longer a Boy Scouts. It doesn’t exist. It has been replaced with the co-educational group “Scouts-BSA” for girls and boys.

Meanwhile, my daughter’s Girl Scout troop is exclusively girls-only.

He can join the track team. I don't see this as a huge problem. Slight overcorrection from when girls' activities were more limited. I do think the girls in Boy Scouts thing is stupid, personally.

You have to get a teacher or coach to sponsor an activity after school and typically it is coed versus boys only unless there is some reason to make it specifically boys only but if you actually look at the number of afterschool classes a class like afterschool basketball is going to draw 80% boys. A running class is probably 60/40 favoring boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that would help is if men and boys stopped regarding women as status markers in competition with the other men and boys. A non-trivial motivation for a "hot girlfriend" isn't so much just because the guy wants that for himself. A big part of the incentive is that it will improve his standing with other guys. Same thing with trying to put up big numbers of women he's had sex with.

Men would mostly be happier if they stopped trying to impress other men. They'd treat women better too. And I think women would ultimately come to like them better.

Exactly. Women to these men are just trophies to show off to other men because they don't actually have real relationships with other men. It's really partly about them not being able to get along and have good male friends.