Do you know people that moved to Florida?

[Anonymous]

We moved to an Orlando suburb in summer 2020. It is much more family friendly. Our whole neighborhood is filled with young kids. When we lived in MoCo, our neighborhood had only one other elementary school boy- a 4th grader who threw rocks at passing cars and dropped the occasional F bomb. Our new neighborhood? Eight kids in my 1st grader's grade alone- one of whom still takes an afternoon nap Plus our kids got go to school in 2020!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a healthy family environment where the American dream is still possible and government interference is muzzled.

um.. ok. Guess that depends on how you define 'healthy". Florida health systems aren't that great; childhood obesity is like 35%; infant mortality is fairly high; Desantis is meddling in education.

I guess they are better off than, say, LA, but not compared to placesl ike MD.

LOL! Who needs facts when you have conjecture?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm --> FL Infant mortality is lower than Maryland's

https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/children1017/ --> as is childhood obesity

good catch, but at least MD expanded medicaid so low income people can get healthcare. I guess FL doesn't care about poor people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We moved to an Orlando suburb in summer 2020. It is much more family friendly. Our whole neighborhood is filled with young kids. When we lived in MoCo, our neighborhood had only one other elementary school boy- a 4th grader who threw rocks at passing cars and dropped the occasional F bomb. Our new neighborhood? Eight kids in my 1st grader's grade alone- one of whom still takes an afternoon nap Plus our kids got go to school in 2020!

+1 Also bought a home in an Orlando Suburb. I love the neighborhood feel. Every morning a bunch of kids walk and ride their bikes past the front of my house on their way to school. Occasionally a mom/dad in a golf cart follows up 5-10 minutes later with something a kid forgot. It's hilarious. In the afternoon the whole street is a giant playground with bikes and balls everywhere. Parents sit on their driveways chatting with each other. On the first day we moved in, three different neighbors stopped by to introduce themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a healthy family environment where the American dream is still possible and government interference is muzzled.

um.. ok. Guess that depends on how you define 'healthy". Florida health systems aren't that great; childhood obesity is like 35%; infant mortality is fairly high; Desantis is meddling in education.

I guess they are better off than, say, LA, but not compared to placesl ike MD.

LOL! Who needs facts when you have conjecture?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm --> FL Infant mortality is lower than Maryland's

https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/children1017/ --> as is childhood obesity

good catch, but at least MD expanded medicaid so low income people can get healthcare. I guess FL doesn't care about poor people.

Check your logic, seems that FL people, including the poor ones, have better health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spouse and I and 2 kids moved from MoCo to a ruby red small city in Florida 3 years ago. Family/job reasons.

We're center left politically, UMC, and spouse is a URM.

We certainly don't fit in here socially as well we did in DC, but have plenty of friends (some like-minded, some not). We've always been comfortable being friends, or at least friendly, with folks who don't share our political views, so not a problem for us.

Plenty of cultural opportunities, even in this small metro area.

The biggest upside has been outdoor activities. We're water people, and when we're not in or on the water, we're hiking, biking or playing outdoor sports. Has been great for the kids and for our happiness.

So overall, a good experience.

Have traveled the world and lived all over the US and could live happily in about 100 different places. Feel sorry for people who are less flexible.

We moved from MoCo to Georgia. Although our area isnt super red, its about half red, which is a stark difference from our 85% blue MoCo neighborhood.

Politically, we feel disaffected from the left because we strongly believe in free expression. But we exist in a mostly-left crowd of transplants from blue areas-- a very large number of Californians.

The lifestyle here is objectively better. The public schools have higher test scores than the MoCo schools. The sense of community here is incredible, something Ive never experienced. And they welcome you openly even if they worry about the affect we may have on the community, since some blue newcomers have been antagonistic. Like you said, the outdoor life is just unbeatable. I feel bad for people who prefer to think of people in the south as unworthy. Its truly their loss.

[Anonymous]

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Spouse and I and 2 kids moved from MoCo to a ruby red small city in Florida 3 years ago. Family/job reasons.

We're center left politically, UMC, and spouse is a URM.

We certainly don't fit in here socially as well we did in DC, but have plenty of friends (some like-minded, some not). We've always been comfortable being friends, or at least friendly, with folks who don't share our political views, so not a problem for us.

Plenty of cultural opportunities, even in this small metro area.

The biggest upside has been outdoor activities. We're water people, and when we're not in or on the water, we're hiking, biking or playing outdoor sports. Has been great for the kids and for our happiness.

So overall, a good experience.

Have traveled the world and lived all over the US and could live happily in about 100 different places. Feel sorry for people who are less flexible.


We moved from MoCo to Georgia. Although our area isnt super red, its about half red, which is a stark difference from our 85% blue MoCo neighborhood.

Politically, we feel disaffected from the left because we strongly believe in free expression. But we exist in a mostly-left crowd of transplants from blue areas-- a very large number of Californians.

The lifestyle here is objectively better. The public schools have higher test scores than the MoCo schools. The sense of community here is incredible, something Ive never experienced. And they welcome you openly even if they worry about the affect we may have on the community, since some blue newcomers have been antagonistic. Like you said, the outdoor life is just unbeatable. I feel bad for people who prefer to think of people in the south as unworthy. Its truly their loss.

Sounds like there are problems in paradise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed

Yes, this definitely was a factor, anything that people hated in blue state and cities about Covid restrictions made FL a very attractive option if you don't want to live through this again.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/09/09/child-covid-fatalities-nearly-double-in-florida-1390807

Child deaths more than doubled when the kids went back in 2021. Cold comfort for the parents of those kids who died. I think return to school would've been fine if Desantis also tried to overrule school districts mask requirement. Even in R leaning districts, they wanted kids to wear masks.

So, while I wanted my kids in school, the non-masking in FL would've concerned me.

I don't think you have read the very article you linked -- either that or your math skills are truly lacking.

Hint: catchy headline by DC outlet to attack DeSantis does not remotely represent reality, either at that moment in time or, more importantly, for the year as a whole.

Send me a CDC paper that shows that FL kids have done worse thru the pandemic. You won't, because they haven't.

This anti-FL paranoia has to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a healthy family environment where the American dream is still possible and government interference is muzzled.

um.. ok. Guess that depends on how you define 'healthy". Florida health systems aren't that great; childhood obesity is like 35%; infant mortality is fairly high; Desantis is meddling in education.

I guess they are better off than, say, LA, but not compared to placesl ike MD.

LOL! Who needs facts when you have conjecture?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm --> FL Infant mortality is lower than Maryland's

https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/children1017/ --> as is childhood obesity

good catch, but at least MD expanded medicaid so low income people can get healthcare. I guess FL doesn't care about poor people.

Check your logic, seems that FL people, including the poor ones, have better health.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a healthy family environment where the American dream is still possible and government interference is muzzled.

um.. ok. Guess that depends on how you define 'healthy". Florida health systems aren't that great; childhood obesity is like 35%; infant mortality is fairly high; Desantis is meddling in education.

I guess they are better off than, say, LA, but not compared to placesl ike MD.

LOL! Who needs facts when you have conjecture?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm --> FL Infant mortality is lower than Maryland's

https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/children1017/ --> as is childhood obesity

good catch, but at least MD expanded medicaid so low income people can get healthcare. I guess FL doesn't care about poor people.

Check your logic, seems that FL people, including the poor ones, have better health.

This.

But the poor ones don't have access to healthcare, and usually, they are the ones who need it most.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed

Yes, this definitely was a factor, anything that people hated in blue state and cities about Covid restrictions made FL a very attractive option if you don't want to live through this again.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/09/09/child-covid-fatalities-nearly-double-in-florida-1390807

Child deaths more than doubled when the kids went back in 2021. Cold comfort for the parents of those kids who died. I think return to school would've been fine if Desantis also tried to overrule school districts mask requirement. Even in R leaning districts, they wanted kids to wear masks.

So, while I wanted my kids in school, the non-masking in FL would've concerned me.

I don't think you have read the very article you linked -- either that or your math skills are truly lacking.

Hint: catchy headline by DC outlet to attack DeSantis does not remotely represent reality, either at that moment in time or, more importantly, for the year as a whole.

Send me a CDC paper that shows that FL kids have done worse thru the pandemic. You won't, because they haven't.

This anti-FL paranoia has to stop.

No one trusts that Desantis was being honest with the numbers, not even many Floridians. He squashed any dissent.

And he is now interefering with what can be taught in schools. Book banning is becoming all too common place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed

Yes, this definitely was a factor, anything that people hated in blue state and cities about Covid restrictions made FL a very attractive option if you don't want to live through this again.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/09/09/child-covid-fatalities-nearly-double-in-florida-1390807

Child deaths more than doubled when the kids went back in 2021. Cold comfort for the parents of those kids who died. I think return to school would've been fine if Desantis also tried to overrule school districts mask requirement. Even in R leaning districts, they wanted kids to wear masks.

So, while I wanted my kids in school, the non-masking in FL would've concerned me.

I don't think you have read the very article you linked -- either that or your math skills are truly lacking.

Hint: catchy headline by DC outlet to attack DeSantis does not remotely represent reality, either at that moment in time or, more importantly, for the year as a whole.

Send me a CDC paper that shows that FL kids have done worse thru the pandemic. You won't, because they haven't.

This anti-FL paranoia has to stop.

No one trusts that Desantis was being honest with the numbers, not even many Floridians. He squashed any dissent.

And he is now interefering with what can be taught in schools. Book banning is becoming all too common place.

Your paranoia shows, and it's not healthy -- for you to begin with.

If DeSantis had beed half as bad as you think he was, a) there'd be thousands of hidden, buried corpses somewhere and b) FL wouldn't have received close to a million folks primarily from the NE and from CA.

But, hey, let's create some conspiracy theories, it's fun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed

Yes, this definitely was a factor, anything that people hated in blue state and cities about Covid restrictions made FL a very attractive option if you don't want to live through this again.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/09/09/child-covid-fatalities-nearly-double-in-florida-1390807

Child deaths more than doubled when the kids went back in 2021. Cold comfort for the parents of those kids who died. I think return to school would've been fine if Desantis also tried to overrule school districts mask requirement. Even in R leaning districts, they wanted kids to wear masks.

So, while I wanted my kids in school, the non-masking in FL would've concerned me.

I don't think you have read the very article you linked -- either that or your math skills are truly lacking.

Hint: catchy headline by DC outlet to attack DeSantis does not remotely represent reality, either at that moment in time or, more importantly, for the year as a whole.

Send me a CDC paper that shows that FL kids have done worse thru the pandemic. You won't, because they haven't.

This anti-FL paranoia has to stop.

No one trusts that Desantis was being honest with the numbers, not even many Floridians. He squashed any dissent.

And he is now interefering with what can be taught in schools. Book banning is becoming all too common place.

Your paranoia shows, and it's not healthy -- for you to begin with.

If DeSantis had beed half as bad as you think he was, a) there'd be thousands of hidden, buried corpses somewhere and b) FL wouldn't have received close to a million folks primarily from the NE and from CA.

But, hey, let's create some conspiracy theories, it's fun!

Conspiracy theory? Are you aware that DeSantis just fires three democratically elected women school board members and replaced them with his male cronies? Did that not really happen?

[Anonymous]

Deflection and deception, business as usual. Those Broward board members were removed over their mishandling of a multimillion dollar bond for school security that could have stopped Cruz from killing his fellow MSD students.

Always preying on short attention spans and lack of critical thinking skills with your histrionics. Still, I must
credit you with many successes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deflection and deception, business as usual. Those Broward board members were removed over their mishandling of a multimillion dollar bond for school security that could have stopped Cruz from killing his fellow MSD students.

Always preying on short attention spans and lack of critical thinking skills with your histrionics. Still, I must
credit you with many successes.

Sad but true. So many US voters have been fully brainwashed. I guess destroying math education and keeping schools closed for a year and a half is part of their plan to dumb voters even more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed

+1. Have any of you tried to get a child therapist in the DMV in the past year? It’s almost impossible. None take insurance. Huge waiting lists. The blue cities have set their kids back several years.

Even if that were true, the red state kids were so far behind, the blue state kids are still ahead.