S/O. What’s the point of potty training so young?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


Nonsense.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


+1-This is true and can easily be found in medical journals and papers on the internet.


Total nonsense. My DD watched her friend use her little, new potty and then she wanted to try. She sat, peed, and we put her in underwear right then. That was it. She was 22 months.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


+1-This is true and can easily be found in medical journals and papers on the internet.


Nope. Both of mine trained easily before 2 and were using the potty before 1. If you mean by potty training full independence including wiping after poop, that’s later. But many kids at a young age can learn to pee or poop when sitting on a potty. There’s nothing physiologically different about it than peeing or pooping in a diaper, in your pants, on a chair or on the ground. As their caregiver you can see when they need to go — if you’re attuned there are obvious signs. Then just gently encourage them to sit and hear a story or whatever. It doesn’t have to be a big deal, and if you do it that way they learn to feel their own signals.

Most parents are just too busy to be attuned to their child’s needs or readiness indicators.


+1. Most parents are just too lazy. They have to put down their phones for a few days and that’s too much sacrifice.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


I believe before two is too early for most kids. However, I bet you could potty train a one year old if that's basically all you did all day, fulll time attention on that child, as is a nanny's job. Most potty training parents either have a lot of other stuff to do all day as well as caring for the child, or they aren't even with the child most of the day and have to rely on daycare workers to train their child or refuse to train their child, depending on the daycare provider. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against nannies at all, I'm just saying a full time potty trainer would change the game for pretty much all kids.


I’ve seen this nanny post this more than a dozen times in potty training threads on here, it’s this massive point of pride with her and she loves to get a jab in at any parent whose kid doesn’t train by two.

I have no doubt that a professional nanny is better at potty training than I was, but somehow we muddled through it and my kid potty trained before preschool, which is honestly all that matters. I’d have liked to save a bit of money on diapers but I guarantee I spent less on the extra year of diapers than anyone does on a FT nanny.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


+1-This is true and can easily be found in medical journals and papers on the internet.


Total nonsense. My DD watched her friend use her little, new potty and then she wanted to try. She sat, peed, and we put her in underwear right then. That was it. She was 22 months.


Your anedoctal story is not one for elevating above medical authority.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


Nonsense.


What medical school did you attend?
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Nannies love bragging about how early they potty trained children.

They often are from cultures that were poor and out of necessity needed to potty train early as they couldn’t afford diapers. It’s a money issue despite it not not being best for the child.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


+1-This is true and can easily be found in medical journals and papers on the internet.


Nope. Both of mine trained easily before 2 and were using the potty before 1. If you mean by potty training full independence including wiping after poop, that’s later. But many kids at a young age can learn to pee or poop when sitting on a potty. There’s nothing physiologically different about it than peeing or pooping in a diaper, in your pants, on a chair or on the ground. As their caregiver you can see when they need to go — if you’re attuned there are obvious signs. Then just gently encourage them to sit and hear a story or whatever. It doesn’t have to be a big deal, and if you do it that way they learn to feel their own signals.

Most parents are just too busy to be attuned to their child’s needs or readiness indicators.


+1. Most parents are just too lazy. They have to put down their phones for a few days and that’s too much sacrifice.


This take is weird to me because you could definitely potty train a kid while looking at your phone as long as you were checking in with the kid periodically. In fact this is what many SAHMs and nannies do, which I know because I was a SAHM during potty training and that’s how it goes. Potty training is incredibly dull and requires you to curtail other activities while you do it. Which is why a lot of people wind up staring at their phone the rest of the time. I wouldn’t normally condone that but I feel like potty training might be the once instance when I get it because I remember it being one of the dullest parenting chores.

I think one reason parents take longer to potty train than a nanny might (other than the nanny just having more experience) is that it’s hard as a parent to just sit and be like “my only job today is to watch my kid and look for sign the need to go, and get them to the potty.” Even as a SAHM this was challenging because it meant neglecting housework and other things that normally I’d be doing. For a working parent who isn’t getting support at daycare, and might be taking time off to do it, I think it’s very hard. But a nanny is being paid, of course she can do that, it’s her whole job.

But she can do it while staring at her phone, I know because I’ve seen it!
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


Nonsense.


What medical school did you attend?


Harvard. Which did you attend? Internet U?
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Anonymous wrote:Nannies love bragging about how early they potty trained children.

They often are from cultures that were poor and out of necessity needed to potty train early as they couldn’t afford diapers. It’s a money issue despite it not not being best for the child.


But it is in the best interest of the child. I’m not a nanny but easily trained my boys before two. I’m sure all of us parents who train before two believe it’s best for their child.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


Nonsense.


What medical school did you attend?


Harvard. Which did you attend? Internet U?


Sure, we all believe you attended Harvard medical school.
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Anonymous wrote:Nannies love bragging about how early they potty trained children.

They often are from cultures that were poor and out of necessity needed to potty train early as they couldn’t afford diapers. It’s a money issue despite it not not being best for the child.


But it is in the best interest of the child. I’m not a nanny but easily trained my boys before two. I’m sure all of us parents who train before two believe it’s best for their child.


Quantify that. All of you parents who you mentioned are not medically knowledgeable.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - parents today make everything sooo much harder.
Everything. More stress. What is the most stressful way to handle a situation? That is what they will attempt to do and then think/say it's the standard practice.

Just turning 3, they will be potty trained in 2 days.



THAT IS NOT TRUE!! Jesus, stop spreading that lie! I started potty training my DD at exactly three and it took NINE MONTHS. At the voiding clinic where we ended up taking DD for not being able to poop on the potty, the experts said it was because we waited until 3 to toilet train her.


IT IS TRUE!!

My kid trained right before 3, in about a week. He wasn't ready till then. He has a sibling that trained the week they turned 2, in a few days-that child was ready then. Was your dd ready and you 'didn't' train her, or was she not actually ready till age 3. My guess is-if she had issues so severe that you needed a voiding clinic, it wasn't related to a few months difference in training. Sounds like it was physical or developmental.


It is psychological. Some late training kids develop a preference for going in their diaper. You won't know if that is your 3 year old until it is too late. So you get to choose between training a compliant toddler who needs time/help developing the voiding skills vs. gambling on a preschooler being cooperative. I have never met a wilful <18 month old.


I have. My DD


Same. My DD was super independent from very early. DCUM never believes this but when we tried to potty train her at 22 months, it was a disaster in exactly the way people describe training a 3yo. Like the more she realized we wanted her to go on the potty, the more resistant she was.

One thing I learned from my potty training experience though is that it made me realize that you have to take all parenting advice with a massive grain of salt because kids are different and the same approaches don’t work universally.

This is one reason why the special needs forum on DCUM is the best parenting forum— most posters there assume your kid deviates from the norm (this why you are asking strangers for help) instead of berating you because their standard advice isn’t working for your kid.


I agree that kids are different. My kids needed different approaches to potty training but they both still trained at 21 and 22 months. The little one is fiercely independent and Oh Crap naked time didn’t work. Minnie Mouse underpants and her deciding when to use the potty worked.


Well neither Oh Crap naked time nor special underpants or giving her more say worked for us. I remember very distinctly when we were about a month into potty training, we'd identified a big reward for DD that she would get if she went pee in the potty every day for five days. We got to day 5 and were like "Yes, you are doing so awesome! Just one more time today!" And she looked me dead in the eye and said "I don't want it anymore" and refused to sit on the potty every day. And that was 22 months. So....

Maybe some kids are more different than even the two children you are raising who are siblings are? Like maybe there is a much, much broader range than your extremely limited experience with two children? Is it possible?


NP here. I’ve potty trained nine kids from three different families (I’m a nanny) all happily before two. Don’t make excuses. We just kept moving forward and never backward.


Not appropriate physiologically before the age of 2.


Nonsense.


What medical school did you attend?


Harvard. Which did you attend? Internet U?


DP- located the fake Harvard grad.
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Anonymous wrote:Nannies love bragging about how early they potty trained children.

They often are from cultures that were poor and out of necessity needed to potty train early as they couldn’t afford diapers. It’s a money issue despite it not not being best for the child.


I mean it makes sense, as it is a selling point for nannies versus daycare. From a parents perspective, if the nanny successfully potty trains your child by two, then you don't have to do it and you can stop buying diapers and it makes your life easier.

That doesn't make it the best way to potty train. And PPs are right that a nanny has a fundamentally different assignment/relationship with the child than a parent does, so it doesn't really make sense to compare those experiences. I bet if you had a hard-to-train 3yo and the parents were struggling with potty training, a nanny could come in and resolve it pretty quickly. But that is partly because the mere act of turning the process over to a nanny would eliminate the power struggle between parent and child and reduce the pressure on both parties. And the nanny could quickly adopt a very emotionally neutral, non-nonsense approach (key to potty training and often hard for parents because their relationship to their child is so much more intimate).

My kid was mostly potty trained by a Montessori preschool teacher after two failed attempts by DH and I, and this was how she did it. I was so grateful but I can also recognized that the dynamics were totally different and that's part of what made it successful. I never expected to struggle potty training my kid because I trained my niece and nephew when I was living with my sister and it was not that hard. I also know people who have had an easy time with one kid and not with another, and I think it's because they have a different relationship with their kids and their kids need different things from them.
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Anonymous wrote:Nannies love bragging about how early they potty trained children.

They often are from cultures that were poor and out of necessity needed to potty train early as they couldn’t afford diapers. It’s a money issue despite it not not being best for the child.


But it is in the best interest of the child. I’m not a nanny but easily trained my boys before two. I’m sure all of us parents who train before two believe it’s best for their child.


It’s best for you, not for the child.
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