Proposal to Stop Enforcing Speeding Tickets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.

Apparently DC will still enforce parking tickets but is likely to double-down on ticketing efforts downtown, in Ward 3, Georgetown, and in other more affluent areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.

Apparently DC will still enforce parking tickets but is likely to double-down on ticketing efforts downtown, in Ward 3, Georgetown, and in other more affluent areas.

Of course they are. What a bunch of sht. It’s so annoying living in a “progressive” city sometimes. Lower the bar and allow crime for some, while punishing those who are less likely to commit crimes. The best part is that there are never any less progressive options. No matter what we just keep letting people speed or ride atvs, or not lose their license, or hide they’re criminal records and allow repeat offenders out or not incarcerate at all, or blame basically anything except the actual perpetrator of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.

Apparently DC will still enforce parking tickets but is likely to double-down on ticketing efforts downtown, in Ward 3, Georgetown, and in other more affluent areas.

Of course they are. What a bunch of sht. It’s so annoying living in a “progressive” city sometimes. Lower the bar and allow crime for some, while punishing those who are less likely to commit crimes. The best part is that there are never any less progressive options. No matter what we just keep letting people speed or ride atvs, or not lose their license, or hide they’re criminal records and allow repeat offenders out or not incarcerate at all, or blame basically anything except the actual perpetrator of crime.

Your complaint is that they plan to enforce the law equally? Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to start aggressively ticketing for noise and speeding. It’s gotten out of hand where I live with the atvs, loud engines and the terrible, terrible music at deafening volumes! I just heard a car go by blasting that song they play at weddings..to the left, to the left! To the right to the right! The next car was even louder, with go go music.

This would definitely be considered racist enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-drivers-dispute-tickets-say-stop-sign-camera-still-not-working-properly/2988482/

Three not seven but that's not relevant.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok ....so a sensitive camera that gives a $300 ticket for a stop sign where no people were present, and a driver comes to a complete stop for seven seconds... that's taxation, not safe driving regulation (Google DC sensitive stop sign cameras)[/quote]

Liar. You go find me a camera that still tickets a car after stopping behind the white line for 7 seconds as you say. You're just another crappy driver who just rolls through the intersection without stopping and then makes up stores about why it's not your fault.[/quote]

Apparently DC will still enforce parking tickets but is likely to double-down on ticketing efforts downtown, in Ward 3, Georgetown, and in other more affluent areas.[/quote]

Of course they are. What a bunch of sht. It’s so annoying living in a “progressive” city sometimes. Lower the bar and allow crime for some, while punishing those who are less likely to commit crimes. The best part is that there are never any less progressive options. No matter what we just keep letting people speed or ride atvs, or not lose their license, or hide they’re criminal records and allow repeat offenders out or not incarcerate at all, or blame basically anything except the actual perpetrator of crime.[/quote]
Your complaint is that they plan to enforce the law equally? Interesting. [/quote]

I’m sorry that critical reasoning eludes you to the point that that was your takeaway.

I’ll break it down.

In this case, rather than enforcing the law that speeding would normally carry the consequences of not being able to renew a license which was as a strong deterrent, because of the disproportiate issuing of tickets, from neutral CAMERAS placed in a locations with the most accidents, the solution is to to take away the law.

Or we stop prosecuting fare evasion. Or we hire “violence interruptors” which studies show don’t work. Or the threshold for felony shoplifting is raised to $950 in California which caused even more shoplifting and stores to close in response which actually made places worse off. Or ap classes are simply canceled…it’s like this lowering of the bar response from progressives especially relating to upholding the law. It’s a sad, mediocre way to approach policy and is a reason they will lose in November. It’s not just inflation, it’s people nationwide seeing that progressives can tolerate a certain amount of lawlessness.

[Anonymous]

I wish dc had a stance on crime like this guy: https://apnews.com/article/police-florida-fort-lauderdale-ed03521826c0f70b1d455b4e7fc3e6cb

Instead taxpayers basically take a backseat as progressives experiment with novel, but ineffective ways reduce crime and to reform criminal justice policy. I am pissed because I am from this city and I know how bad it was in the 80’s and 90’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish dc had a stance on crime like this guy: https://apnews.com/article/police-florida-fort-lauderdale-ed03521826c0f70b1d455b4e7fc3e6cb

Instead taxpayers basically take a backseat as progressives experiment with novel, but ineffective ways reduce crime and to reform criminal justice policy. I am pissed because I am from this city and I know how bad it was in the 80’s and 90’s.

I think we need to leave more traffic policing to cameras and sensors and put a lot more teeth into things like aggressively pursuing out-of-state violators while freeing up traffic cops to go after violent criminals on the streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to start aggressively ticketing for noise and speeding. It’s gotten out of hand where I live with the atvs, loud engines and the terrible, terrible music at deafening volumes! I just heard a car go by blasting that song they play at weddings..to the left, to the left! To the right to the right! The next car was even louder, with go go music.

This would definitely be considered racist enforcement.

Why is it racist? Where I lived in rural PA the obnoxious ATVs and loud cars were all white kids.

[Anonymous]

Or the threshold for felony shoplifting is raised to $950 in California which caused even more shoplifting and stores to close in response which actually made places worse off.

Not sure why the right wing keeps peddling the fiction that shoplifting under $950 was somehow decriminalized or is no longer enforced. The only thing that's changed is that $950 is the threshold between misdemeanor and felony. You can and will still be arrested for stealing less than $950.

459.5. (a) Notwithstanding Section 459, shoplifting is defined as entering a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny while that establishment is open during regular business hours, where the value of the property that is taken or intended to be taken does not exceed nine hundred fifty dollars ($950). Any other entry into a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny is burglary. Shoplifting shall be punished as a misdemeanor, except that a person with one or more prior convictions for an offense specified in clause (iv) of subparagraph (C) of paragraph (2) of subdivision (e) of Section 667 or for an offense requiring registration pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section 290 may be punished pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.

(b) Any act of shoplifting as defined in subdivision (a) shall be charged as shoplifting. No person who is charged with shoplifting may also be charged with burglary or theft of the same property.

In California, misdemeanor shoplifting is punishable by

probation,

fines,

restitution, and

up to 6 months in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tldr

Another woke criminal justice reform policy in action.

I feel less safe allowing fast azz drivers to basically speed with impunity, but I’m glad we can virtue signal on this and the city council can pay itself on the back for equity or whatever the fk this is.

Next up is taking the age for the youth rehab act to cover up to 45, letting go of 90% of police officers (defund!) and letting shoplifting happen because it’s only fair.

And if you complain about it you are a gentrifying piece of sht who should move to Arlington.

This is kind of like how when kids were lighting leaves on fire under peoples cars in his neighborhood, Charles Allen blamed the city for not collecting leaves quickly enough.

Don’t worry guys, it’s definitely not stuff like this leads to Republican victories nationwide.

What she said!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to start aggressively ticketing for noise and speeding. It’s gotten out of hand where I live with the atvs, loud engines and the terrible, terrible music at deafening volumes! I just heard a car go by blasting that song they play at weddings..to the left, to the left! To the right to the right! The next car was even louder, with go go music.

This would definitely be considered racist enforcement.

DP... "definitely" racist?
How is it necessarily racist?
Where is it written that you must blast music from your car if you are a certain race? Where is it a deep integral part of culture? The big aftermarket car amps and car subwoofers didn't even exist until the late '70s-early '80s.

And, why should one race get a special exemption for noise ordinances?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tldr

Another woke criminal justice reform policy in action.

I feel less safe allowing fast azz drivers to basically speed with impunity, but I’m glad we can virtue signal on this and the city council can pay itself on the back for equity or whatever the fk this is.

Next up is taking the age for the youth rehab act to cover up to 45, letting go of 90% of police officers (defund!) and letting shoplifting happen because it’s only fair.

And if you complain about it you are a gentrifying piece of sht who should move to Arlington.

This is kind of like how when kids were lighting leaves on fire under peoples cars in his neighborhood, Charles Allen blamed the city for not collecting leaves quickly enough.

Don’t worry guys, it’s definitely not stuff like this leads to Republican victories nationwide.

What she said!

What she said was hyperbole