Would you be ticked off if a restaurant refused to serve you a cocktail for no ID?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to the above post, a no-exception policy is easier for staff to rely on when entitled customers who need their booze are arguing with them, and the a safer policy for the the owner to require of their staff, because the owner really could be hurt if there's a sting -- who wants to trust a young person working a summer job at a beach restaurant to make the right call every time, or decide on the spot who is clearly old enough and who is borderline, and then defend that position when the customer argues? Just make the rule "no" and be done with it.

The fact that the bartender with an attitude warned the other bartender not to serve OP alcohol makes it quite clear there was no blanket policy at this restaurant to card everyone. If so, the other bartender would have carded OP without the heads up, because those were the rules, and would have figured out she had no ID anyway. Instead, it was just a petty bartender on a power trip who decided she didn't like OP that day. Maybe OP was really annoying, who knows, but obviously this restaurant didn't have such a no-exception policy. As others weren't carded at all.

I can hazard a guess . . .

Not taking that bet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to the above post, a no-exception policy is easier for staff to rely on when entitled customers who need their booze are arguing with them, and the a safer policy for the the owner to require of their staff, because the owner really could be hurt if there's a sting -- who wants to trust a young person working a summer job at a beach restaurant to make the right call every time, or decide on the spot who is clearly old enough and who is borderline, and then defend that position when the customer argues? Just make the rule "no" and be done with it.

The fact that the bartender with an attitude warned the other bartender not to serve OP alcohol makes it quite clear there was no blanket policy at this restaurant to card everyone. If so, the other bartender would have carded OP without the heads up, because those were the rules, and would have figured out she had no ID anyway. Instead, it was just a petty bartender on a power trip who decided she didn't like OP that day. Maybe OP was really annoying, who knows, but obviously this restaurant didn't have such a no-exception policy. As others weren't carded at all.

If only there had been a simple way for OP to have been served alcohol. Just one simple thing that would have made it possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Happened to my husband and I last night. No kids. Beachfront restaurant. I didn’t want to carry my purse and we were getting to-go food. While on the way, husband recommends a classic margarita. Great idea and I actually look forward to it. Female bartender who was probably just as old as us cards me! Implying we just graduated from high school two years ago? Our own kids are in middle and high school. She refuses to serve me, then when she goes to the back to get our food loudly tells the other bartender I don’t have ID and to not serve me alcohol.

No, that's not what was happening. Lol.


And no I would not be "ticked off". The potential liabilities and/or consequences for the restaurant are not worth it to them. It's not personal. You need to be prepared to show a ( valid/not expired) ID for any alcohol purchase.

Please cite a source that state, commonwealth, and/local bureaucrats are doing sting operations on bars using age 21+ decoys with expired licenses or old timers who left their ID at home. This simply does not happen. They use 20 year olds and teenagers with valid teenager IDs.

I was a bartender for many years. And while it is true that having an ID is not generally required (I don't know every municipal code or state statute), what does happen is that a bar or restaurant gets caught serving a minor. Part of the settlement is that they will card EVERY SINGLE PERSON. Failing to do so will breach the agreement they reached to maintain their license and they lose their license. This does happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

I guess that will be their problems and not yours. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

I guess that will be their problems and not yours. See how that works?

I take it you are not in the hospitality industry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

I guess that will be their problems and not yours. See how that works?

I take it you are not in the hospitality industry.

Nope! And I’ll bet the vast majority of bars and restaurants can withstand the huffing and puffing of a few dissatisfied people who can’t comply with policies. It’s almost as if they have the right to refuse you service!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

The OP had two reasonable ways to handle this situation. Either go back and get an ID or graciously accept that you aren’t going to get a drink. The OP, and some other posters here, seem to be equating this experience with something actually serious. This isn’t. None of us are that special. The OP was rightfully denied a drink. Big deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

It is within their rights to check any ID at any time. If you don’t like it, ease on down, ease on down the rooooooadddd!

Just wait until they try that and get called out for discrimination. This seems like a really bad idea to exercise the right willy nilly because you don't like a patron's attitude.

I guess that will be their problems and not yours. See how that works?

I take it you are not in the hospitality industry.

Nope! And I’ll bet the vast majority of bars and restaurants can withstand the huffing and puffing of a few dissatisfied people who can’t comply with policies. It’s almost as if they have the right to refuse you service!

But, it's not a policy. That's the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the "it's the LAW" people here are too much. Let me guess, none of you ever drive over the speed limit either, right?

If we get pulled over and get a ticket, we pay it without complaining to the officer. See how that works?

No, no you all don't. Come on. Are you going to pretend you all thank him for reminding you of the law also and teaching you a lesson?

I do thank the officer (note that not all law enforcement officers are “him”), unless they are confrontational and rude. But if I was speeding, I usually know it, and I don’t fight them on it, because I’m not stupid.

Do you also offer up your ID at the bar if the bartender forgot to check it? To make sure it's all on the up and up?

I provide ID at bars and restaurants when asked for it. What with that being the law and all. How entitled and bratty would it be to act like I am somehow above laws and policies? If you don’t like the restaurant or bar’s policy, you are free to ease on down, ease on down the road. You will not be missed.

But it wasn't the bar's policy in this case. They didn't check all IDs.

Here's one more thing going on: we can pick and choose who we card based on their age. Once we ask and you don't have on you, we cannot serve you. She could have served you if she hadn't asked.