Oakton crash

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Anonymous wrote:This reckless teen driver had a BMW. The other reckless FCPS kid who killed the 62 year old woman drove an Audi. Stop letting kids drive these cars.

I cannot believe those poor kids doing nothing more than walking home from school are now dead.

Any car can do 100mph. Any car can be driven recklessly. It isn’t the car. It’s the driver.

Try getting a 20 year old Toyota Camry to accelerate to 100mph in one residential block. Yes, that's what I drove in high school. It shook a little at high speeds.

Now I'm not saying every kid needs to drive a beater, but I don't think any teenager should be given a sports or luxury vehicle.

The 4Runner turned directly in front of the BMW.

If the BMW really was speeding that excessively, the BMW driver will still be charged. Similar accident happened last month in Loudoun and the druver doing 75 in a 45 was the one charged with vehicular manslaughter because of the excessive speed.

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Unfortunately, the kid who will speed like that through a residential pedestrian zone will just ignore the crash victim speaking at the school assembly, because he doesn’t respect anyone.

Just to clarify all residential zones are pedestrian zones. People cross the street all the time to get to their car or whatever reason. I was crossing two days ago and a car a over block away honked at me for crossing the street. At my own house. If she had been going the speed limit there wouldn't have been the need for her to even (briefly) brake and honk at me. She immediately floored it. It wasn't a "close call" but she was too bothered to drive the speed limit or reduce her speed. The place I was crossing over to -- an elementary school.

You do not need to be in a cross walk to have the right away. Pedestrians in residential zones have the right away.

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Anonymous wrote:As of its 5:22 p.m. update, the Post is identifying the teen pedestrians as Oakton HS students. Here is part of that article:

Two Oakton High School students were killed and another was critically injured Tuesday when two vehicles collided and spun out of control at an intersection where the youths were walking, Fairfax County police said.

The victims, all teenage girls, were a block from their school, police said. This is the final week of the school year at Oakton and Tuesday was an early-release day, with classes ending at 11:30 a.m., shortly before the fatal accident.

The crash occurred about 11:46 a.m. at Blake Lane and Five Oaks Road in the Oakton area, on the opposite side of Route 66 from the school, according to Maj. Eli Cory, a police spokesman. He said the three girls, whom he did not identify, were taken to a hospital, where authorities later said two of them were pronounced dead. He said the third student’s injuries were “life-threatening."


The driver and a passenger from one of the vehicles, who also are juveniles, were injured but not seriously, he said. It was unclear if they also went to Oakton.

Cory said a BMW was traveling south on Blake “at a very high rate of speed” while the driver of a Toyota 4Runner, headed north on Blake, was attempting to turn left onto Five Oaks. The BMW stuck the 4Runner, then “ricocheted off the side of the road, hit the three pedestrians, hit a pole on the side of the road and finally came to rest down the street,” he said.



The three girls were walking along Blake and had just crossed Five Oaks before the 4Runner’s driver tried to make the turn, Cory said.

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The article does continue after that but that's the gist of it. So sad about the students killed--we have dear friends with an Oakton grad this year and this is sickening.

Everyone harping on the BMW driver, sounds like 4Runner misjudged the timing needed for the left hand turn directly in front of the BMW. BMW had no time to stop - even if they weren't speeding.

I was wondering the same thing. I am unfamiliar with the intersection, so I did not know if the 4Runner misjudged the turn, or was waiting for the turn as the girls crossed the road, all looked clear and then the BMW came up really fast. Regardless, tragic for all involved.

Wondering too. Did the 4Runner have the green arrow to turn? Did the BMW run the red light (or out run the yellow light as it was switching from green to red)?

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It’s not the car. I Live in Oakton, Hunter Mill Rd area and use to regularly drive fast on Blake Lane in my Ferrari or Porsche 911 to go get Einstein at Fair City on a Saturday or Sunday morning. The street was pretty empty at 7am when I did it. I stopped those antics when I got a speeding ticket in my family sedan driving at 10:30am on a Friday. I’m actually thankful for the ticket and I’m sure glad it wasn’t me in the BMW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This reckless teen driver had a BMW. The other reckless FCPS kid who killed the 62 year old woman drove an Audi. Stop letting kids drive these cars.

I cannot believe those poor kids doing nothing more than walking home from school are now dead.

Any car can do 100mph. Any car can be driven recklessly. It isn’t the car. It’s the driver.

Try getting a 20 year old Toyota Camry to accelerate to 100mph in one residential block. Yes, that's what I drove in high school. It shook a little at high speeds.

Now I'm not saying every kid needs to drive a beater, but I don't think any teenager should be given a sports or luxury vehicle.

The 4Runner turned directly in front of the BMW.

If the BMW really was speeding that excessively, the BMW driver will still be charged. Similar accident happened last month in Loudoun and the druver doing 75 in a 45 was the one charged with vehicular manslaughter because of the excessive speed.

That's right. Speed and dangerous driving prevented the BMW from being able to avoid an accident. Also happened on River Rd in Bethesda with a 115mph BMW driver hitting a car entering the road and killed 3. That driver got 12 years.

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It's very unlikely the BMW driver is 18 because seniors already graduated and they aren't expected to be at school this week.

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Anonymous wrote:It's very unlikely the BMW driver is 18 because seniors already graduated and they aren't expected to be at school this week.

Could be an older junior held back/starting K late. I know of some juniors who are starting to turn 18.

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Anonymous wrote:It's very unlikely the BMW driver is 18 because seniors already graduated and they aren't expected to be at school this week.

Could be an older junior held back/starting K late. I know of some juniors who are starting to turn 18.

Maybe he went to pick up some friends or had do some paper work at the school? I guess we have wait to see what happened, rumor has it he was a senior

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Anonymous wrote:It's very unlikely the BMW driver is 18 because seniors already graduated and they aren't expected to be at school this week.

Could be an older junior held back/starting K late. I know of some juniors who are starting to turn 18.

News articles say it is a juvenile.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake lane has a 35 MPH speed limit but people regularly go 50 to 55 MPH. I was ticketed going 50 on Blake without even trying. I betting it was the rain and the BMW hydroplaned after the afternoon storm. Sad news for the kids. Oakton HS is my base school.

Congrats on regularly speeding near a school.

+1000

I hope the PP thinks twice before doing it again. Just because others do it doesn’t make it right. Goodness gracious.

NP here - are you familiar with Blake Lane? It's a 4-lane divided road - it's one of those places where it "feels" like the speed limit should be 45. And the school is nearby, not directly on Blake Lane. Please note - NONE of this excuses the reckless driving, but just pointing out - if you didn't know the school, you probably wouldn't know it was nearby.

Hmm.. to anyone who actually LIVES along Blake Lane, it sure doesn't "feel" like a 45 mph. It "feels" to me like my residential neighborhood where people need to effing slow down. Nothing bad will happen if it takes you a few more minutes to get to Chik-Fila. We are all responsible for creating a safe environment.

I live near this road too and I am amazed at the number of accidents that occur along it. It definitely needs traffic calming measures weather that means more lights and timing them so that you have to to stop every block or so in a way that forces drivers to think about another route if they are in a hurry (Vienna clearly does this and the effect I don’t drive through unless I absolutely have too.) or planting trees in the median which has been shown to gsr people to slow down. Look less like a highway and more like a neighborhood road.

Personally, I’m hoping that 66 construction completion will encourage more people to not cut through on Blake to Jermantown on the way to somewhere else.

The traffic is so bad on that road and with new development at the AT&T site it’s only going to get worse.

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I feel full on rage at this BMW driver. I seriously hope he goes to jail for 15 years. I hope his family goes broke. I hope he never gets to experience happiness again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's very unlikely the BMW driver is 18 because seniors already graduated and they aren't expected to be at school this week.

Could be an older junior held back/starting K late. I know of some juniors who are starting to turn 18.

Maybe he went to pick up some friends or had do some paper work at the school? I guess we have wait to see what happened, rumor has it he was a senior

And some seniors are still 17 at graduation. My oldest didn't turn 18 until August after he graduated. My kids also have several friends that have summer birthdays.

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Delivery vans and UHaul trucks regularly go 45 MPH on Blake Lane. Cops know this too and have motorcycle speed traps all along Blake pulling people over (or at least they use to). I expect they will be coming back now for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel full on rage at this BMW driver. I seriously hope he goes to jail for 15 years. I hope his family goes broke. I hope he never gets to experience happiness again.

I hope the parents get some jail time as well.

For the driver, involuntary manslaughter, the least!

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Anonymous wrote:I feel full on rage at this BMW driver. I seriously hope he goes to jail for 15 years. I hope his family goes broke. I hope he never gets to experience happiness again.

I hope the parents get some jail time as well.

For the driver, involuntary manslaughter, the least!

That is not going to happen.