Barnard is Barnard, not Columbia!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the same issue you run into with Harvard Extension School. The name confers expectations around selectivity and academic achievement— “vetting,” to put it shortly. The admission standards are different and more lenient. If you say you went to Columbia when you actually went to Barnard, you’re being duplicitous.

The Columbia booster is trying this line again? Harvard Extension School students have a degree in “extension studies,” not a BA.

In contrast, Barnard undergrads have a BA from Columbia, just like the School of General Studies undergrads. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Columbia.

You are crazy if you think Harvard extension students are not Harvard legit students. It's extremely rigorous work bc courses are identical to the actual Harvard classes taught by the same Harvard professors. It's laughable when people put Harvard down when regular Harvard students are just as good - and on par - as extension students.

That you assert without evidence that Harvard College students are “just as good” as HES students us neither here nor there. That some HES courses are taught by instructors who also teach Harvard College classes is meaningless; Harvard professors teach MasterClasse online too.

Back on topic: The two schools different degrees so that no employer would mistake an HES degree for a HC degree.
Columbia College and Barnard both award a BA from Columbus university, so yes, Barnard students can truthfully say they went to Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

Ah, we found the Harvard Extension grad! No doubt just puts "Harvard" on his resume.

Nah, the PP is just the Columbia booster again, still hoping that degrading Harvard will somehow elevate Columbia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

Ah, we found the Harvard Extension grad! No doubt just puts "Harvard" on his resume.

Nah, the PP is just the Columbia booster again, still hoping that degrading Harvard will somehow elevate Columbia.

You sound deranged. Like it genuinely sounds like you have worms for brains.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a mom whose URM son was an athletic recruit to Harvard and she added “Harvard mum” to all of her social media. Some folks are just so shameless and thirsty.

I know PP is trying to make a political point - however, you don't have to be a URM to be a striver. Lori Loughlin paid $500,000 to become a 2nd tier ivy wannabe "USC mum." No shame in being a Harvard mum when your kid makes it on 100% merit.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a bit of a back door situation, isn’t it? They should just purchase another campus and sever formal ties to the university. After all, Barnardians proudly proclaim that they wanted to attend Barnard, not Columbia!

And yea, everyone finds the intentional obfuscation of the Barnard name on the part of Barnard students/grads shady. Just say Barnard.

Omg, yes, this. Well said.

Who exactly do you think this is misleading? The people who really know what Columbia is are going to know what Barnard is. So if you get into a conversation, they're going to be able to tease the Barnard out rather quickly, and you're going to embarrass yourself. And the other...99.99% of the population simply could not care less either way. Even the real Columbia does not ooze prestige to laymen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_in_popular_culture

not every college gets as frequently name dropped in movies or novels... just saying

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

LOL sure, you do you, jan.

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Barnard is prestigious with an incredibly connected and supportive network that opens doors. Ain't no shame in the Barnard game!

[Anonymous]

Suck it up buttercup

Founded in 1889 as a college for women affiliated with the then all-male Columbia University, Barnard College is a self-sustaining entity under the Columbia umbrella. Located right across Broadway, we’re one of the University’s four undergraduate colleges, but we’re largely autonomous, with our own leadership and our own bold approach to women-centered education.

Columbia classes are open to all Barnard students, and vice versa.

We’re two distinct communities that create a larger whole.

Barnard is the only women’s college where you can play in NCAA Division I athletic leagues. This is made possible by The Columbia-Barnard Athletic Consortium, which allows Barnard students and students from Columbia’s undergraduate division to compete together in the Ivy League.

In short, Barnard is a college of Columbia University, meaning your diploma will be from Columbia University, Barnard College. You can take any class at Columbia (except for the Columbia core classes) and Columbia students can take any class at Barnard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

Ah, we found the Harvard Extension grad! No doubt just puts "Harvard" on his resume.

Nah, the PP is just the Columbia booster again, still hoping that degrading Harvard will somehow elevate Columbia.

You sound deranged. Like it genuinely sounds like you have worms for brains.

It’s time to face the facts, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

Ah, we found the Harvard Extension grad! No doubt just puts "Harvard" on his resume.

Nah, the PP is just the Columbia booster again, still hoping that degrading Harvard will somehow elevate Columbia.

You sound deranged. Like it genuinely sounds like you have worms for brains.

It’s time to face the facts, PP.

Let me know if the character in this video is a Columbia booster or a Harvard booster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNV-znbRPa0

At 04:50 in the video, Harvard extension is extremely rigorous. You need at least 3 Bs - and that just to get in.

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I know a total dipsh*t with a sociology degree from a bottom barrel commuter college who completed some one or two week total Harvard Extension School thing. And I vaguely recall it was online and maybe one weekend of the program was in Cambridge, so he was there for a couple of nights total. He proceeded to begin wearing Harvard sweatshirts, added "attended Harvard" above his alma mater on his Facebook bio's education, and his Facebook icon photo is him wearing a Harvard sweatshirt. Status thirsty people are so freakin' pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a bit of a back door situation, isn’t it? They should just purchase another campus and sever formal ties to the university. After all, Barnardians proudly proclaim that they wanted to attend Barnard, not Columbia!

And yea, everyone finds the intentional obfuscation of the Barnard name on the part of Barnard students/grads shady. Just say Barnard.

Omg, yes, this. Well said.

Who exactly do you think this is misleading? The people who really know what Columbia is are going to know what Barnard is. So if you get into a conversation, they're going to be able to tease the Barnard out rather quickly, and you're going to embarrass yourself. And the other...99.99% of the population simply could not care less either way. Even the real Columbia does not ooze prestige to laymen.

I don't think this is true.

We've gone over this already. HYPS and MIT. That's all laymen give a sh*t about. Nobody is in awe of a Columbia bachelors.

People who say they aren't impressed by CU are the same people on the other threads asking how their kids can get into UMBC, Towson, Morgan...

Hey, CU is for University of Colorado. We are very proud of CU. Make your own label for your school.

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In my country Columbia is definitely more impressive than Princeton, perhaps similar to Stanford. Most people only know Harvard and Yale and MIT though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my country Columbia is definitely more impressive than Princeton, perhaps similar to Stanford. Most people only know Harvard and Yale and MIT though.

Especially Harvard and Yale. If you go to a city in South America or Africa or Asia, randomly ask some middle school kids where they would like to go for college in America, two most frequently coming up are Harvard and Yale. Just like if you go to some rural small towns in US and ask the locals what are most famous cities in Europe they know, the overwhelming answer will be London and Paris.

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Anonymous wrote:In my country Columbia is definitely more impressive than Princeton, perhaps similar to Stanford. Most people only know Harvard and Yale and MIT though.

Especially Harvard and Yale. If you go to a city in South America or Africa or Asia, randomly ask some middle school kids where they would like to go for college in America, two most frequently coming up are Harvard and Yale. Just like if you go to some rural small towns in US and ask the locals what are most famous cities in Europe they know, the overwhelming answer will be London and Paris.

It's like the typical Americans know only Oxford and Cambridge in Europe. And that would be among the typical educated ones. I am pretty sure the continental European countries have universities. They are not known bc they are not Oxford or Cambridge.