TJ class of 2022 college destinations

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UVA Engineering faculty tuition is now 43k/yr in tuition alone - there is virtually no difference between in state and out of state for engineering )incl. CS through engineering) for VA residents. And for TJ kids with grades high enough for UVA they get into higher-ranked engineering schools easily; most of those like GA tech or purdue are actually both higher ranked in top 10 for engineering AND also 10k/yr less expensive than UVA even if you are out of state for those and in state for UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA Engineering faculty tuition is now 43k/yr in tuition alone - there is virtually no difference between in state and out of state for engineering )incl. CS through engineering) for VA residents. And for TJ kids with grades high enough for UVA they get into higher-ranked engineering schools easily; most of those like GA tech or purdue are actually both higher ranked in top 10 for engineering AND also 10k/yr less expensive than UVA even if you are out of state for those and in state for UVA.

For CS, UVA in state is $45k, and GA Tech out of state is $50k.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA Engineering faculty tuition is now 43k/yr in tuition alone - there is virtually no difference between in state and out of state for engineering )incl. CS through engineering) for VA residents. And for TJ kids with grades high enough for UVA they get into higher-ranked engineering schools easily; most of those like GA tech or purdue are actually both higher ranked in top 10 for engineering AND also 10k/yr less expensive than UVA even if you are out of state for those and in state for UVA.

For CS, UVA in state is $45k, and GA Tech out of state is $50k.

Georgia Tech is quite a bit better.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Aspirational for the bottom 20% of TJ graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Fewer have been going to UVA. More seem to be going out of state.

They’re not getting in. That’s a huge part of why.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Aspirational for the bottom 20% of TJ graduates.

And the middle 40%, sadly.

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18 admissions for Cornell University!

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Looking at these numbers, so glad that my child is NOT at TJ. He is a rising senior and has a 4.6 GPA Weight/4.0 unweighted GPA at our community high school. Given how strong his ACT is (35), he will probably get in someone where quite good.

He was really sad when he did not get into TJ several years ago. We did no prep, so I guess he never had a chance.

I have an 8th grader that has applied. Even if she gets in, I’m inclined to not send her. Especially given all of the drama around admissions and the insane parents in the classes of 2023 and 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Fewer have been going to UVA. More seem to be going out of state.

They’re not getting in. That’s a huge part of why.

The ones that are getting in aren't going in the same numbers. Kids start to go out of state as TJ gets recruited. They influence the kids that follow. It starts a TJ diaspora.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Fewer have been going to UVA. More seem to be going out of state.

They’re not getting in. That’s a huge part of why.

The ones that are getting in aren't going in the same numbers. Kids start to go out of state as TJ gets recruited. They influence the kids that follow. It starts a TJ diaspora.

TJ grads prefer Michigan, Illinois, Washington, Indiana, UCLA, GaTech, CMU, Purdue to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:My perspective as a TJ parent of a 10th grader: we don't all expect that our kids get into every Ivy. TJ is hard, like REALLY HARD. I have another child at our base school. The workload difference is dramatic. Given all the hell the kids go through at TJ (purely from a workload perspective) it does seem unfair that so many good TJ students can't even get into UVA. UVA is a good school, but it's also the state university. These TJ kids (many of them willingly) give up so much social life to study and work. Meanwhile, their base school friends enjoy a much more balanced life and often end up at better colleges. Watching my two kids, my TJ one is definitely exposed to more and learning more. But, at what cost, I guess. Anyway, we do like TJ. Don't believe everything your read about the school, parents, kids, teachers. There are a lot of good people there and the education is amazing. Just wish they had more security getting into college after the amount of time they put in at TJ.

UVA is a state university. One, there should be no guarantee of admission to a state university upon entering a high school, even a magnet school. Two, there are other good options in state.

TJ grads do not want to attend UVA except for the bottom third grads.

This was true 15-20 years ago and UVA was a common bottom-third destination at that point.

UVA is actually an aspirational school for many TJ students nowadays.

Fewer have been going to UVA. More seem to be going out of state.

They’re not getting in. That’s a huge part of why.

The ones that are getting in aren't going in the same numbers. Kids start to go out of state as TJ gets recruited. They influence the kids that follow. It starts a TJ diaspora.

TJ grads prefer Michigan, Illinois, Washington, Indiana, UCLA, GaTech, CMU, Purdue to UVA.

It is probably both. The overall decline in the numbers going to UVA from the average of 2010-2012 to 2019-2021 is about 63%. Over that same period, the percentage getting accepted has gone from about 80% to somewhere around 50%. That suggests a decline in the number accepted of about 38%. So perhaps 60% related to fewer acceptances, and 40% other factors (e.g. other options and changes in cost differentials). Anyway, that's my back of the envelope estimate.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at these numbers, so glad that my child is NOT at TJ. He is a rising senior and has a 4.6 GPA Weight/4.0 unweighted GPA at our community high school. Given how strong his ACT is (35), he will probably get in someone where quite good.

He was really sad when he did not get into TJ several years ago. We did no prep, so I guess he never had a chance.

I have an 8th grader that has applied. Even if she gets in, I’m inclined to not send her. Especially given all of the drama around admissions and the insane parents in the classes of 2023 and 2024.

I would invite you to read the threads from about 2-3 weeks ago in the College & University forum. High stats alone are no guarantee, especially when “quite good” schools are accepting less than 15% of the tens of thousands of applications they are receiving. This isn’t like applying when you were his age.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at these numbers, so glad that my child is NOT at TJ. He is a rising senior and has a 4.6 GPA Weight/4.0 unweighted GPA at our community high school. Given how strong his ACT is (35), he will probably get in someone where quite good.

He was really sad when he did not get into TJ several years ago. We did no prep, so I guess he never had a chance.

I have an 8th grader that has applied. Even if she gets in, I’m inclined to not send her. Especially given all of the drama around admissions and the insane parents in the classes of 2023 and 2024.

My TJ kids did no prep; many TJ kids did not need to prep.

It is easier to get into colleges, especially UVA, from base schools than from TJ but the education my kids received at TJ was worth it to them. They did not go to TJ for college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at these numbers, so glad that my child is NOT at TJ. He is a rising senior and has a 4.6 GPA Weight/4.0 unweighted GPA at our community high school. Given how strong his ACT is (35), he will probably get in someone where quite good.

He was really sad when he did not get into TJ several years ago. We did no prep, so I guess he never had a chance.

I have an 8th grader that has applied. Even if she gets in, I’m inclined to not send her. Especially given all of the drama around admissions and the insane parents in the classes of 2023 and 2024.

I would invite you to read the threads from about 2-3 weeks ago in the College & University forum. High stats alone are no guarantee, especially when “quite good” schools are accepting less than 15% of the tens of thousands of applications they are receiving. This isn’t like applying when you were his age.

There are a fair number of schools that are quite good.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at these numbers, so glad that my child is NOT at TJ. He is a rising senior and has a 4.6 GPA Weight/4.0 unweighted GPA at our community high school. Given how strong his ACT is (35), he will probably get in someone where quite good.

He was really sad when he did not get into TJ several years ago. We did no prep, so I guess he never had a chance.

I have an 8th grader that has applied. Even if she gets in, I’m inclined to not send her. Especially given all of the drama around admissions and the insane parents in the classes of 2023 and 2024.

This is going to hit a nerve with the TJ parents. Their children are the BEST.