Girl's School and Gender Pronouns

[Anonymous]

Agree. The mindset is bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Good grief. When will the insanity end. Voting R until sanity regained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good grief. When will the insanity end. Voting R until sanity regained.

Spend some time watching Fox and come back to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good grief. When will the insanity end. Voting R until sanity regained.

This. But, it’s going to take a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. When will the insanity end. Voting R until sanity regained.

Spend some time watching Fox and come back to us.

You must be watching CNBC because your party’s approval ratings (president’s too)are in the toilet along with its/his policies and public schools. Great job!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

That's not going to accomplish what they think it will. All-girls schools still have PLENTY of kids who identify as gender fluid, nonbinary, demi-boys, etc. You can pay $30K a year and think you are avoiding it, but you'll be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

That's not going to accomplish what they think it will. All-girls schools still have PLENTY of kids who identify as gender fluid, nonbinary, demi-boys, etc. You can pay $30K a year and think you are avoiding it, but you'll be wrong.

That’s quite an assortment of labels…

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Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

Would you please reread your own post and tell us all how you managed to type that with a straight face?

Please remember that we are discussing girls who attend a $45K a year private school, all of whom will go on to SLACs/ top universities -- the great majority of which have a 45-55 or so percent ratio of M to F enrollment. They come from wealth and privilege far beyond what most people in the world can begin to comprehend. They will have amazing careers doing anything they are willing to work to achieve and your position is that they are victims of misogyny, and will have better lives than male counterpoints?

Lady, please get some help. You are as disconnected from reality as many of these kids.

Sure, they are privileged. And already a huge percentage of them have experienced sexual assault.

Personally I think a lot of the trans talk among middle school girls is coming from trauma. They have started to be assaulted, leered at, violated, etc. They see their male classmates don't experience that at all (we know unfortunately some do, but it is more rare and not as discussed).

But sure, go ahead and ignore the high rates of sexual assault among girls and just tell them they are privileged and should just get over that. That seems to be your modus operandi.

Oh my God you are actually insane. The majority of them have already experience sexual assault? Based on what? Have you spoken to all these girls in the local private schools about their sexual assaults? Do you even have a daughter that attends one of these private schools? You are unhinged and irrational.

I didn't say majority. You made that up. I said "high rates," and that is well-established by now. Do I need to do basic research for you and show you estimates of rates of sexual assault? This is not really a fact that is much debated.

Also, it's hard to tell from your hyperventilating answer, but are you taking the position that children enrolled in expensive private school are magically exempt from experiences of sexual assault, battery, rape, etc.? Studies of childhood assault do not support that.

I find it interesting how freaked out you are, and I think it is sad. There is plenty of data available to you, if you choose to educate yourself. You don't have to stay blind.

You are sad and traumatized. It’s unbelievably said you think
Men are superior and destined to be happier than you because you have a vaginainsread of a penis. That is truly sad. Your poor children. Your sons would be rapists and your daughters victims.

Huh. So on one side we have someone with statistics and data to back them up (regarding the frequency of childhood sexual assault) and on the other side we have someone writing bizarre fantasies about rapists like the PP above.

Learn something if you are capable (I have my doubts). Start here:

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

That's not going to accomplish what they think it will. All-girls schools still have PLENTY of kids who identify as gender fluid, nonbinary, demi-boys, etc. You can pay $30K a year and think you are avoiding it, but you'll be wrong.

Try 45-55k babe. You clearly don’t have a daughter that attends these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

Would you please reread your own post and tell us all how you managed to type that with a straight face?

Please remember that we are discussing girls who attend a $45K a year private school, all of whom will go on to SLACs/ top universities -- the great majority of which have a 45-55 or so percent ratio of M to F enrollment. They come from wealth and privilege far beyond what most people in the world can begin to comprehend. They will have amazing careers doing anything they are willing to work to achieve and your position is that they are victims of misogyny, and will have better lives than male counterpoints?

Lady, please get some help. You are as disconnected from reality as many of these kids.

Sure, they are privileged. And already a huge percentage of them have experienced sexual assault.

Personally I think a lot of the trans talk among middle school girls is coming from trauma. They have started to be assaulted, leered at, violated, etc. They see their male classmates don't experience that at all (we know unfortunately some do, but it is more rare and not as discussed).

But sure, go ahead and ignore the high rates of sexual assault among girls and just tell them they are privileged and should just get over that. That seems to be your modus operandi.

Oh my God you are actually insane. The majority of them have already experience sexual assault? Based on what? Have you spoken to all these girls in the local private schools about their sexual assaults? Do you even have a daughter that attends one of these private schools? You are unhinged and irrational.

I didn't say majority. You made that up. I said "high rates," and that is well-established by now. Do I need to do basic research for you and show you estimates of rates of sexual assault? This is not really a fact that is much debated.

Also, it's hard to tell from your hyperventilating answer, but are you taking the position that children enrolled in expensive private school are magically exempt from experiences of sexual assault, battery, rape, etc.? Studies of childhood assault do not support that.

I find it interesting how freaked out you are, and I think it is sad. There is plenty of data available to you, if you choose to educate yourself. You don't have to stay blind.

You are sad and traumatized. It’s unbelievably said you think
Men are superior and destined to be happier than you because you have a vaginainsread of a penis. That is truly sad. Your poor children. Your sons would be rapists and your daughters victims.

Huh. So on one side we have someone with statistics and data to back them up (regarding the frequency of childhood sexual assault) and on the other side we have someone writing bizarre fantasies about rapists like the PP above.

Learn something if you are capable (I have my doubts). Start here:

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens

Neither of which has anything to do with the subject.

[Anonymous]

Agree. A poster said that girls are becoming trans to fight against misogyny because men will have better lives because they have a penis. This statement is utter nonsense in every sense of the word. So, because men rape women, become a man. As the poster said, “if you can’t beat them, join them”. Just bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. When will the insanity end. Voting R until sanity regained.

Spend some time watching Fox and come back to us.

You must be watching CNBC because your party’s approval ratings (president’s too)are in the toilet along with its/his policies and public schools. Great job!

I wouldn't argue at all the the D's aren't making serious mistakes that are damaging their electoral chances at a critical time. Which is of course dumb.

That said, since the R's don't even believe in democracy, this issue shouldn't really sway anyone to the dark side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

That's not going to accomplish what they think it will. All-girls schools still have PLENTY of kids who identify as gender fluid, nonbinary, demi-boys, etc. You can pay $30K a year and think you are avoiding it, but you'll be wrong.

Try 45-55k babe. You clearly don’t have a daughter that attends these schools.

Ah. There’s that attitude. Can’t imagine where the “girls” get it.

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Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

Would you please reread your own post and tell us all how you managed to type that with a straight face?

Please remember that we are discussing girls who attend a $45K a year private school, all of whom will go on to SLACs/ top universities -- the great majority of which have a 45-55 or so percent ratio of M to F enrollment. They come from wealth and privilege far beyond what most people in the world can begin to comprehend. They will have amazing careers doing anything they are willing to work to achieve and your position is that they are victims of misogyny, and will have better lives than male counterpoints?

Lady, please get some help. You are as disconnected from reality as many of these kids.

Sure, they are privileged. And already a huge percentage of them have experienced sexual assault.

Personally I think a lot of the trans talk among middle school girls is coming from trauma. They have started to be assaulted, leered at, violated, etc. They see their male classmates don't experience that at all (we know unfortunately some do, but it is more rare and not as discussed).

But sure, go ahead and ignore the high rates of sexual assault among girls and just tell them they are privileged and should just get over that. That seems to be your modus operandi.

Oh my God you are actually insane. The majority of them have already experience sexual assault? Based on what? Have you spoken to all these girls in the local private schools about their sexual assaults? Do you even have a daughter that attends one of these private schools? You are unhinged and irrational.

I didn't say majority. You made that up. I said "high rates," and that is well-established by now. Do I need to do basic research for you and show you estimates of rates of sexual assault? This is not really a fact that is much debated.

Also, it's hard to tell from your hyperventilating answer, but are you taking the position that children enrolled in expensive private school are magically exempt from experiences of sexual assault, battery, rape, etc.? Studies of childhood assault do not support that.

I find it interesting how freaked out you are, and I think it is sad. There is plenty of data available to you, if you choose to educate yourself. You don't have to stay blind.

You are sad and traumatized. It’s unbelievably said you think
Men are superior and destined to be happier than you because you have a vaginainsread of a penis. That is truly sad. Your poor children. Your sons would be rapists and your daughters victims.

Huh. So on one side we have someone with statistics and data to back them up (regarding the frequency of childhood sexual assault) and on the other side we have someone writing bizarre fantasies about rapists like the PP above.

Learn something if you are capable (I have my doubts). Start here:

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens

Neither of which has anything to do with the subject.

Of course it does. I will recap:

The school is changing the word "girls," presumably because many girls are expressing a desire to not be a girl and the school is trying to deal with that reality. This is not happening in boys schools. The question is then why a lot of these girls, who are often quite privileged and wealthy, do not want to be girls any more. Posters (including me) have raised the possibility that this may be due to misogyny and trauma, specifically sexual assault. Statistics have been provided to back up the frequency of childhood sexual assault. However, posters like you have largely responded by making up bizarre fantasies, panicking, and generally posting weirdly personal attacks. What you have not done is had a reasoned discussion.

That is where we are now. It is, I admit, hard to take you seriously at this point and I probably won't bother further.

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Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

Would you please reread your own post and tell us all how you managed to type that with a straight face?

Please remember that we are discussing girls who attend a $45K a year private school, all of whom will go on to SLACs/ top universities -- the great majority of which have a 45-55 or so percent ratio of M to F enrollment. They come from wealth and privilege far beyond what most people in the world can begin to comprehend. They will have amazing careers doing anything they are willing to work to achieve and your position is that they are victims of misogyny, and will have better lives than male counterpoints?

Lady, please get some help. You are as disconnected from reality as many of these kids.

Sure, they are privileged. And already a huge percentage of them have experienced sexual assault.

Personally I think a lot of the trans talk among middle school girls is coming from trauma. They have started to be assaulted, leered at, violated, etc. They see their male classmates don't experience that at all (we know unfortunately some do, but it is more rare and not as discussed).

But sure, go ahead and ignore the high rates of sexual assault among girls and just tell them they are privileged and should just get over that. That seems to be your modus operandi.

Oh my God you are actually insane. The majority of them have already experience sexual assault? Based on what? Have you spoken to all these girls in the local private schools about their sexual assaults? Do you even have a daughter that attends one of these private schools? You are unhinged and irrational.

I didn't say majority. You made that up. I said "high rates," and that is well-established by now. Do I need to do basic research for you and show you estimates of rates of sexual assault? This is not really a fact that is much debated.

Also, it's hard to tell from your hyperventilating answer, but are you taking the position that children enrolled in expensive private school are magically exempt from experiences of sexual assault, battery, rape, etc.? Studies of childhood assault do not support that.

I find it interesting how freaked out you are, and I think it is sad. There is plenty of data available to you, if you choose to educate yourself. You don't have to stay blind.

I would love to see your data, as it applies to females from UMC backgrounds from married, intact two-parent homes. That is the majority of these girls. And the idea that "high rates" of them have been sexually assaulted by middle school is absurd. You are literally making that up from nothing.

I agree with the other poster; you are a frequent on these boards who always comes in to bash men and talk about sexual trauma in everyone's lives. Obviously, you come from a point of reference that is extremely sad, and for that I am sorry. But to not get help and to project your misery onto everyone else is not the key to moving forward in life. Just some advice to you from DCUM.