Montgomery County- Universal Income

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone would think a good way to address income equality, rather than working to bring up the bottom, is to get rid of the top. There is no case where if you have 10 people with a million dollar salary, and 10 with a 20,000 salary, getting rid of five of the millionaires to achieve better "income equality" makes things better.

We will lose more businesses, jobs, and high earners to VA.

The two year study is based on a grant, not from taxes.

Where's the county finding the 2 million it's responsible for?

The whole thing costs $5.76 million, and the county is pulling from the reserves for the first $2 million. The Meyer foundation is paying a million as well. While the county will seek grant funding elsewhere, there is no guarantee of awards. So the remaining $2.76 million may be on taxpayers' shoulders. The county will likely shoulder 83% of the cost of this.

Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone would think a good way to address income equality, rather than working to bring up the bottom, is to get rid of the top. There is no case where if you have 10 people with a million dollar salary, and 10 with a 20,000 salary, getting rid of five of the millionaires to achieve better "income equality" makes things better.

We will lose more businesses, jobs, and high earners to VA.

The two year study is based on a grant, not from taxes.

Where's the county finding the 2 million it's responsible for?

The whole thing costs $5.76 million, and the county is pulling from the reserves for the first $2 million. The Meyer foundation is paying a million as well. While the county will seek grant funding elsewhere, there is no guarantee of awards. So the remaining $2.76 million may be on taxpayers' shoulders. The county will likely shoulder 83% of the cost of this.

Yikes.

I say it's time for Andrew Yang to put his money where his mouth is.

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You should move. We are not a socialist society.

In some ways, we are. The unemployment extension went way beyond what a worker/employee paid into unemployment insurance. States like KY had not problems taking the extension on it. Medicaid expansion is also a form of socialism, and again, some red states had no problems accepting it.

Do socialist countries also allow an unmitigated inflow of undocumented immigrants? Or might they have some regulations in place to control that?

We have regulations in place, but a lot of businesses continue to flaunt those regulations and hire illegal immigrants. Maybe we need more regulations.

A wall doesn't prevent visa overstays, which is now the majority source of illegal immigration.

The former first lady also worked here illegally at one point. A wall didn't stop her, either.

Pretty crazy, right? I agree that we need a crackdown on employers who hire undocumented immigrants. That would be a good start for both Democrats and Republicans. I mean, how can Democrats support allowing business owners who pay cash wages under the table, to avoid paying the $15/hour minimum wage. That makes zero sense!

The PP was citing Scandinavia. How many undocumented immigrants does Scandinavia take in every year compared to the US?

Comparing the US to Scandinavia is asinine and disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:FREE (ok, well you are paying for it) BEER & TVS FOR ALL! Nevermind the labor shortage. Stay home. Chill. Model dysfunction no work ethic poverty for your children!

Enroll in remedial literacy classes ASAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is good at only one thing: Identifying and implementing public policies that will accelerate its decline.

+1 million

Yup. Promoting more and better paying job? Naw, let’s not do that. It might inconvenience some rich liberals fantasies.

It’s going to be an interesting case study as a counter balance to Kansas in the destructiveness of liberalism.

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At least they are testing it to assess whether this entitlement will really do what it is supposed to do. Unfortunately, if implemented full scale, the citizens of MoCo will be funding illegal immigrants and MoCo will become an even stronger magnet than it already is. Learning gap won’t go away.

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Anonymous wrote:At least they are testing it to assess whether this entitlement will really do what it is supposed to do. Unfortunately, if implemented full scale, the citizens of MoCo will be funding illegal immigrants and MoCo will become an even stronger magnet than it already is. Learning gap won’t go away.

It’s already been tested as a pilot in Stockton, CA. So that’s not a credible rationale for allocating a significant amount of tax money.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd feel better about this knowing the money is going to take care of basic needs. Rent, utilities, medical care, childcare. And a lesson in family and financial management.
PP was right, no reason for anyone in this county to go hungry, lack for clothes, or household furnishings. We have warehouses full of this stuff.

The county already has multiple rental assistance programs, eviction programs, child care vouchers for low income and working families, multiple medical programs and utility assistance. There are multiple social service programs for clothing and household stuff. And, MCPS is providing multiple meals a day plus other programs available.

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I like UBI at the federal level. It is a stupid idea to do ITAC the county level though.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone would think a good way to address income equality, rather than working to bring up the bottom, is to get rid of the top. There is no case where if you have 10 people with a million dollar salary, and 10 with a 20,000 salary, getting rid of five of the millionaires to achieve better "income equality" makes things better.

We will lose more businesses, jobs, and high earners to VA.

The two year study is based on a grant, not from taxes.

And, where do those grants come from?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone would think a good way to address income equality, rather than working to bring up the bottom, is to get rid of the top. There is no case where if you have 10 people with a million dollar salary, and 10 with a 20,000 salary, getting rid of five of the millionaires to achieve better "income equality" makes things better.

We will lose more businesses, jobs, and high earners to VA.

The two year study is based on a grant, not from taxes.

And, where do those grants come from?

Taxpayers! Usually middle-class taxpayers, for that matter.

Since the wealthy can avoid paying taxes and the lower-income families get tax breaks.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd feel better about this knowing the money is going to take care of basic needs. Rent, utilities, medical care, childcare. And a lesson in family and financial management.
PP was right, no reason for anyone in this county to go hungry, lack for clothes, or household furnishings. We have warehouses full of this stuff.

The county already has multiple rental assistance programs, eviction programs, child care vouchers for low income and working families, multiple medical programs and utility assistance. There are multiple social service programs for clothing and household stuff. And, MCPS is providing multiple meals a day plus other programs available.

And, free health insurance for kids. Montgomery County does a fantastic job providing for kids’ needs.

UBI is a terrible idea.

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Anonymous wrote:I like UBI at the federal level. It is a stupid idea to do ITAC the county level though.

That is essentially the same as reducing our taxes and why that is such an important issue to so many of us.

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$800 gets you:
Grocery expenses for a family of 4 for a month
Cable, wifi, internet and a phone plan

So take your pick of the 2. The rest of the time you would have to live under a bridge

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Anonymous wrote:What’s amazing is that this program is run with a nonprofit which means it basically has ZERO impact on your tax dollars. You are all showing your true colors here. It’s not about fiscal responsibility. It’s that you HATE seeing poor people get any help. You hate the fact the government exists to serve others other than yourself. You people sicken me.

- a hard working, taxpaying homeowner in MoCo who voted for Elrich and will vote for Elrich again and just got ten more people to donate to Elrich.
Don’t like it? Move to Florida.

Congrats you wasted your time. Elrich is not getting re-elected. - a hard working, taxpaying homeowner in MoCo who wants EVERYONE in the county to prosper.