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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/opinion/prince-harry-and-the-value-of-silence.html

Prince Harry and the Value of Silence by Patti Davis

My justification in writing a book I now wish I hadn’t written (and please, don’t go buy it; I’ve written many other books since) was very similar to what I understand to be Harry’s reasoning. I wanted to tell the truth, I wanted to set the record straight. Naïvely, I thought if I put my own feelings and my own truth out there for the world to read, my family might also come to understand me better.

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It seems Harry, Meghan and their families, all are dysfunctional adults. Instead of arguing with each other, fans from both sides should focus on thoughts and prayers and start a gofundme for their individual therapy and family counseling.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/opinion/prince-harry-and-the-value-of-silence.html

Prince Harry and the Value of Silence by Patti Davis

My justification in writing a book I now wish I hadn’t written (and please, don’t go buy it; I’ve written many other books since) was very similar to what I understand to be Harry’s reasoning. I wanted to tell the truth, I wanted to set the record straight. Naïvely, I thought if I put my own feelings and my own truth out there for the world to read, my family might also come to understand me better.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

Harry did this purely for the money. Not to tell his side so the family can heal. How absurd. Pure greed. And he didn’t have to do it he and Megan could have done countless projects and made a boatload of money. Boatload. Alrhough maybe not the $100m they have now made by attacking his family.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

That's ridiculous. I'm Meghan's age and I don't record every moment of my life. Signed, not a gramps.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

Uh, I’m about Megan’s age and we got married around the same time. I did NOT record my calls to anyone before or after his proposal. Its weird influencer behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:So much of the stuff is like stuff that happens in families. In laws don’t like or welcome the DIL. Arguments between SIls about dumb stuff. Dad liked you best. Disagreements about details of wedding stuff. Eh…big deal.

That's what is so amusing about all this. Harry has been wanting to get "his side" out for awhile now and after all the anticipation... this is what he was dying to tell everyone? A bunch of nothing? Lip gloss? Bridezilla stuff? Singing seals?

I can’t get over the revelation that a grown man didn’t figure out how to pee without wetting himself. 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

No. Everyone under 45 isn't doing this. What in the world?

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

Uh, I’m about Megan’s age and we got married around the same time. I did NOT record my calls to anyone before or after his proposal. Its weird influencer behavior.

This. I’m also this age and it’s really bizarre behavior, particularly for a person who has already had a white-dress destination wedding.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

Speak for yourself, please.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

Uh, I’m about Megan’s age and we got married around the same time. I did NOT record my calls to anyone before or after his proposal. Its weird influencer behavior.

This. I’m also this age and it’s really bizarre behavior, particularly for a person who has already had a white-dress destination wedding.

Sure, but you're not a very calculating person realizing they are catapulting to real celebrity status as a result of the proposal.

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Anonymous wrote:Changing the subject:

Will the Palace respond to the stories from the book?

I don't see why they would need to. Everyone is doing the work for them. Seems like they are the winners in this.

I agree. The coverage has been exceedingly negative in all published sources - read the comments with each excerpt. The Taliban revelation has been regarded with serious alarm in multiple broadsheets.

I hope we can actually talk about the book and actual, linkable coverage of same and just report the posts attacking those who are putting in relevant comments. The coverage has been universally unflattering to Harry, so some posters who can’t accept that have been attacking. It’s pathetic and weird.

I wonder if Harry will put out is own statement distancing himself from this disaster saying things were taken out of context, misrepresented, unclear, etc. Will he take full responsibility or try to shift blame?

Only if public opinion turns against him.

My money is on a public announcement that he’s in a fancy wellness rehab dealing with exhaustion or some such in the next 6 months.

You know I think he does need help if all this stuff in the advances are his words. Something is very wrong. I am so troubled that no one told him he was going too far and he looks unsympathetic. His piling on loses most people and these are people who want to like him. There is no way his family takes him back after this. They will be afraid to be close enough for him to announce said conversation to the world. Before I thought he should go to coronation and now no. Total hypocrisy if he goes. You cannot say what he says about his family and then expect to attend.

He's the author of the book so how could he shift blame? I know there's a ghostwriter but Harry can't blame him since Harry's name is the one on the book.

As for conversations being announced to the world, that would apply to anyone, family or friend. Who would want to risk that?

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It's all so unseemly. The family is probably glad that this is being released after her death.

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After the Queen's death.

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Anonymous wrote:For very long time Harry was one of the most popular royal family members. I think the public was really happy for him when he found Meghan. Clearly, however there were signs that not all was well even before the wedding. And William tried to warn him, and Harry has been upset with him ever since.

What do you all think were William's objections and reasoning for trying to warn him? I'm sure it was the alleged staff bullying, but there has to be more.

William did not like the speed with which the courtship unfolded, and thought Harry needed to take more time to make sure Meghan understands the reality of royal life, and what she's getting into. Harry took it as an offense.

From all accounts, Meghan never did want to understand the reality of royal life, and was deeply uninterested in fitting in in any normal sense.

I personally am very put off by the evidence of how early and often they videotaped themselves in the process. Who videotapes the call to a girlfriend when your bf is about to propose? It's almost like they were collecting material they planned to use in the future.

I also think that both Diana and Charles failed as parents for not acclimating Harry properly to the reality of being, yes, a spare. Resentment and envy toward the royal hierarchy is a main theme of Harry's book and I don't know that anyone grown should be THAT angry on what is a physical fact of the order of birth.

Re the bolded. Gramps do you really not understand that anyone under the age of 45 records every bit of their life as if it is the most important documentary evidence ever recorded? Wake up and look around gramps.

Uh, I’m about Megan’s age and we got married around the same time. I did NOT record my calls to anyone before or after his proposal. Its weird influencer behavior.

This. I’m also this age and it’s really bizarre behavior, particularly for a person who has already had a white-dress destination wedding.

Sure, but you're not a very calculating person realizing they are catapulting to real celebrity status as a result of the proposal.

I watched their Netflix show and that scene along with Meghan and her cheerleaders couldn’t have come across as worse. Even as calculating users. Even as older influencers.