Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?

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Anonymous wrote:A 51/49 vote, that ends with a 10/1 result. Appalling.


It’s trumps doing. He started this in Texas

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


Texas was barely 65% and it was legal based on population growth this is totally illegal

No, illegal was the Republicans’ gerrymandered Virginia map that hat to be tossed because it violated the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2063.php

Louise remembers


She's on fire.



Yes she's amazing great job she's doing for her area

Portsmouth, Virginia tops the list of the most dangerous cities in Virginia, with 58.15 per 1000 people.
In 2024, the city recorded an alarming 8.84 violent crimes per 1000 residents, alongside a property crime rate of 49.30 per 1000.
These statistics position Portsmouth as one of the most challenging cities in terms of public safety within the state.
Annual Crimes in Portsmouth:
Population: 97,029
Violent Crimes: 858
Property Crimes: 4,784
Total Crimes: 5,642
Chances of Becoming a Victim: 1 in 113.
The root causes of Portsmouth’s crime issues are multifaceted, primarily driven by a high poverty rate and substantial economic challenges. Its poverty rate is higher than the national average.
The city has struggled with unemployment rates that exceed the national average, limited job opportunities in key sectors, and a workforce that often lacks access to the education and training necessary for upward mobility.
These economic hardships create a breeding ground for both property and violent crimes as residents face desperation and limited options.
Portsmouth’s crime rates are further exacerbated by issues such as housing instability and a lack of investment in public infrastructure.
Neighborhoods facing the highest crime rates often show signs of neglect, with public areas in disrepair and homes in dilapidation.
While Portsmouth cannot be rated as the most dangerous city in USA, its crime rates certainly rank it quite high.
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Anonymous wrote:A 51/49 vote, that ends with a 10/1 result. Appalling.


It’s trumps doing. He started this in Texas

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


Texas was barely 65% and it was legal based on population growth this is totally illegal

No, illegal was the Republicans’ gerrymandered Virginia map that hat to be tossed because it violated the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2063.php

Louise remembers


sick in the head

Y’all just don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.


there is no other foot, this is not the way its straight up corruption, i can understand moving a little bit but the vote should mimic the no/yes, this is crazy no other state has done this and its going to be a major problem for the entire country.


The VA GOP did exactly this 16 years ago.

The red states are doing it now.

Don't like it? Push the GOP for a nationwide ban on gerrymandering.
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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?



if the maps are drawn to be 90% democrat in virignia where is is only 51%, the proof is in the actual voting tally, they should have done this in a real blue state, this could end up in a civil war
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i think you all need to read what happened in texas it was 65% republican similar to the voting block the thing that happened in virginia is nothing reflective of the breakdown of the population, virgnia in not 90% democrat;

No U.S. state has 90% of its voters registered as Democratic or gives 90% of its vote to Democratic candidates. The highest concentration of Democratic voters is in Washington, D.C. (~75.6%) and states like Maryland (~51.7% registered), while the most Democratic-leaning states in presidential elections, including Vermont and Maryland, typically see margins of 20-30+ percentage points, not over 90%.


That's not how redistricting works. In a non-gerrymandered world, it's done by compact, geographic location. NOT to balance out political parties across the state.
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Anonymous wrote:A 51/49 vote, that ends with a 10/1 result. Appalling.


It’s trumps doing. He started this in Texas

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


Texas was barely 65% and it was legal based on population growth this is totally illegal

No, illegal was the Republicans’ gerrymandered Virginia map that hat to be tossed because it violated the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2063.php

Louise remembers


sick in the head

Y’all just don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.


there is no other foot, this is not the way its straight up corruption, i can understand moving a little bit but the vote should mimic the no/yes, this is crazy no other state has done this and its going to be a major problem for the entire country.


The VA GOP did exactly this 16 years ago.

The red states are doing it now.

Don't like it? Push the GOP for a nationwide ban on gerrymandering.



Not the same at all. Virginia 16 years ago was a much redder state politically, so the electorate itself was different. A map in a Republican leaning Virginia is not comparable to taking today’s far more competitive Virginia and turning it into 90% seats for one party. That is the issue: the seat outcome no longer reflects the actual voting split.
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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?



if the maps are drawn to be 90% democrat in virignia where is is only 51%, the proof is in the actual voting tally, they should have done this in a real blue state, this could end up in a civil war


You mean just the the VA GOP did in 2010?

Didn't hear you complaining then.
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F Bezos



i think you all need to read what happened in texas it was 65% republican similar to the voting block the thing that happened in virginia is nothing reflective of the breakdown of the population, virgnia in not 90% democrat;

No U.S. state has 90% of its voters registered as Democratic or gives 90% of its vote to Democratic candidates. The highest concentration of Democratic voters is in Washington, D.C. (~75.6%) and states like Maryland (~51.7% registered), while the most Democratic-leaning states in presidential elections, including Vermont and Maryland, typically see margins of 20-30+ percentage points, not over 90%.


That's not how redistricting works. In a non-gerrymandered world, it's done by compact, geographic location. NOT to balance out political parties across the state.


That is not accurate. Compactness is only one factor in redistricting, not the only rule. Districts must also meet equal population standards, comply with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, preserve communities of interest, and avoid vote dilution.

A map can look compact and still unfairly silence large voting blocs. “One person, one vote” is about fair representation, not just neat shapes.
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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?



if the maps are drawn to be 90% democrat in virignia where is is only 51%, the proof is in the actual voting tally, they should have done this in a real blue state, this could end up in a civil war


You mean just the the VA GOP did in 2010?

Didn't hear you complaining then.


Not the same. In 2010, Virginia was a much more Republican leaning state than it is today, so the statewide electorate and political balance were different.

The issue now is that today’s Virginia is a competitive state, with recent statewide results around 51% to 48%, yet the proposed outcome could become 90% of seats for one party.

That means the seat result would be far more disconnected from the actual vote split than in the past.

Also, whether someone complained in 2010 is irrelevant. If gerrymandering was wrong then, it is wrong now. The standard should be consistent regardless of which party benefits.
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Anonymous wrote:A 51/49 vote, that ends with a 10/1 result. Appalling.


It’s trumps doing. He started this in Texas

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


Texas was barely 65% and it was legal based on population growth this is totally illegal

No, illegal was the Republicans’ gerrymandered Virginia map that hat to be tossed because it violated the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2063.php

Louise remembers


sick in the head

Y’all just don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.


there is no other foot, this is not the way its straight up corruption, i can understand moving a little bit but the vote should mimic the no/yes, this is crazy no other state has done this and its going to be a major problem for the entire country.


The VA GOP did exactly this 16 years ago.

The red states are doing it now.

Don't like it? Push the GOP for a nationwide ban on gerrymandering.



Not the same at all. Virginia 16 years ago was a much redder state politically, so the electorate itself was different. A map in a Republican leaning Virginia is not comparable to taking today’s far more competitive Virginia and turning it into 90% seats for one party. That is the issue: the seat outcome no longer reflects the actual voting split.


No, it wasn't. Virginia strongly supported Obama in 2008 -- 52.63%. And since 2002, there have only been 2 R Governors and 4 Ds.

It's the exact same thing, different hat.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?



if the maps are drawn to be 90% democrat in virignia where is is only 51%, the proof is in the actual voting tally, they should have done this in a real blue state, this could end up in a civil war


You mean just the the VA GOP did in 2010?

Didn't hear you complaining then.


Not the same. In 2010, Virginia was a much more Republican leaning state than it is today, so the statewide electorate and political balance were different.

The issue now is that today’s Virginia is a competitive state, with recent statewide results around 51% to 48%, yet the proposed outcome could become 90% of seats for one party.

That means the seat result would be far more disconnected from the actual vote split than in the past.

Also, whether someone complained in 2010 is irrelevant. If gerrymandering was wrong then, it is wrong now. The standard should be consistent regardless of which party benefits.



VA was NOT much more Republican then. Since 2002, we've had 4 D governors and only 2 Rs. VA has only voted for D presidents since 2008.

Anyway, that is NOT how redistricting works. In a non-gerrymandered world, it's done by compact, geographic location. NOT to balance out political parties across the state to some predetermined %s.
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Does anyone else feel like there is going to be a bigger RoVA backlash in our commonwealth? This was how the Dems created MAGA in the first place.

Where did we see this dramatized? Oh yeah, Game of Thrones and the Whitewalkers.
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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that

An investigation by whom? And of whom?
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Anonymous wrote:A 51/49 vote, that ends with a 10/1 result. Appalling.


It’s trumps doing. He started this in Texas

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


Texas was barely 65% and it was legal based on population growth this is totally illegal

No, illegal was the Republicans’ gerrymandered Virginia map that hat to be tossed because it violated the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.princegeorgecountyva.gov/news_detail_T6_R2063.php

Louise remembers


sick in the head

Y’all just don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.


there is no other foot, this is not the way its straight up corruption, i can understand moving a little bit but the vote should mimic the no/yes, this is crazy no other state has done this and its going to be a major problem for the entire country.

Wrong

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Anonymous wrote:There will definitely be an investigation if they rig the maps like that


Who? The Republicans in Texas? The Republicans in NC? The Republicans in OH? The Republicans in MO?



if the maps are drawn to be 90% democrat in virignia where is is only 51%, the proof is in the actual voting tally, they should have done this in a real blue state, this could end up in a civil war


It’s going to go through the courts first. It’s such an obvious theft of voters rights.

If the courts don’t call out this bs I fear you are correct. There will be another civil war.
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