Will your DC wear mask to school when Youngkin lifts school mask mandate next week?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

No, you people who have been consistently wrong do not get an out. We looked at the same evidence you did, and saw how wrong you were at that time. You called us every name in the book at the time.

Your credibility has been destroyed.

And masks should have been off last fall, as so many mask optional states in the US and mask optional countries in Europe showed. You still won't admit you were wrong.

And you have proven that facts and science do not matter to you and you don’t care about anyone else but your own beliefs. I am glad you were stopped from putting my child at risk up to this point.

You have been wrong on the science continually.

Here's the Smart Restart head at 2:30 saying alarmingly that's it's now up to individuals - my kids masks will be thrown in the trash, that's for sure and how we're "individually" handling it. These COVIDians need to follow the science and statistics.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-virginia/school-masking-choice-passes-virginia-senate/2966933/

Scouring the interwebs to stalk SR people? CREEPY!!

Go back to your alternate reality and leave those poor SR people alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should be interesting to see how many teachers quit now.

It’s the opposite. We can’t wait for our turn. I want to teach without a mask. I am thrilled for the students and my own children. I can be patient since I know it won’t be too long now. Like parents, it was a few loud and vocal teachers who wanted to continue mandating masks for all.

No, actually, it isn't. There are maybe 2 or 3 teachers in my school who want to "unmask" and everyone else is fine and dandy staying masked. We're in NoVa. Our student population is the same way. I think we would suddenly have a lot of kids staying home if masks come off. Our school's parents want masks on.

Or you’re just in an echo chamber/have people telling you what they know you want to hear. I would love to see the results of an anonymous survey of parents/teachers on masking at any of the nova schools districts, but of course the schools won’t do them because they’re scared of the results.

Nothing official from APS, just a simple anonymous survey I setup. Currently close to 1/3 of the 72 respondents have said they would let their child go to school unmasked. That is pretty good for the peoples republic of Arlington.

https://xoyondo.com/ap/6IhXwZj2usGCoZD

Who did you distrubute this poll to, just this site? That matters - population.

Interesting that the most "yes" came from Yorktown, WMS and Jamestown.

Always has been the most GOP part of Arlington. Lots of lobbyists, old money southern transplants, people who like to live near Washington Golf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

I think the northeast states are acting (as well the changed view of Dr. Lena Wen) both on the lower Covid numbers (they are ahead of the DC area in the reduction of cases) and the reality of having to operate in a world with so many ignorant selfish people like those on this thread that are so up in arms about the limited sacrifice of wearing masks. Unfortunately, it seems this new approach probably wont work either since idiots like those on this thread will claim they were right all along and will continue to ignore the advice of legitimate public health officials. If it were me, I would keep all mandate for the time being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

I think the northeast states are acting (as well the changed view of Dr. Lena Wen) both on the lower Covid numbers (they are ahead of the DC area in the reduction of cases) and the reality of having to operate in a world with so many ignorant selfish people like those on this thread that are so up in arms about the limited sacrifice of wearing masks. Unfortunately, it seems this new approach probably wont work either since idiots like those on this thread will claim they were right all along and will continue to ignore the advice of legitimate public health officials. If it were me, I would keep all mandate for the time being.

Or, it could be the realization that masks don't really work and the public knows it now. All credibility has been lost by our so-called experts and the public has decided to take control of the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

I think the northeast states are acting (as well the changed view of Dr. Lena Wen) both on the lower Covid numbers (they are ahead of the DC area in the reduction of cases) and the reality of having to operate in a world with so many ignorant selfish people like those on this thread that are so up in arms about the limited sacrifice of wearing masks. Unfortunately, it seems this new approach probably wont work either since idiots like those on this thread will claim they were right all along and will continue to ignore the advice of legitimate public health officials. If it were me, I would keep all mandate for the time being.

WHY? What will ever be enough for you to end masking? At this point, the most impacted groups are high risk/underlying conditions/unvaccinated. They can either mask or roll the dice as they wish without vaccination. And the risk to the under 5 unvaccinated group is very small.

[Anonymous]

I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

Keep wearing your masks if you wish--that's fine. Our too young to be vaccinated child brought COVID home from daycare last month. The whole family (vaxxed) got it. We are ready to not mask now. We have natural immunity plus vaccination. Besides that--most of the world, and rest of the U.S. is moving away from mask mandates--what are you holding onto? Maybe try a xanax instead of a mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

I think the northeast states are acting (as well the changed view of Dr. Lena Wen) both on the lower Covid numbers (they are ahead of the DC area in the reduction of cases) and the reality of having to operate in a world with so many ignorant selfish people like those on this thread that are so up in arms about the limited sacrifice of wearing masks. Unfortunately, it seems this new approach probably wont work either since idiots like those on this thread will claim they were right all along and will continue to ignore the advice of legitimate public health officials. If it were me, I would keep all mandate for the time being.

Thank God no one put you in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

Keep wearing your masks if you wish--that's fine. Our too young to be vaccinated child brought COVID home from daycare last month. The whole family (vaxxed) got it. We are ready to not mask now. We have natural immunity plus vaccination. Besides that--most of the world, and rest of the U.S. is moving away from mask mandates--what are you holding onto? Maybe try a xanax instead of a mask.

We are coming out of this pandemic soon. We are all ready to stop masking. Some just don’t want to do it in the middle of a surge.

Youngkin’s EO in the middle of a surge was reckless and illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

Keep wearing your masks if you wish--that's fine. Our too young to be vaccinated child brought COVID home from daycare last month. The whole family (vaxxed) got it. We are ready to not mask now. We have natural immunity plus vaccination. Besides that--most of the world, and rest of the U.S. is moving away from mask mandates--what are you holding onto? Maybe try a xanax instead of a mask.

We are coming out of this pandemic soon. We are all ready to stop masking. Some just don’t want to do it in the middle of a surge.

Youngkin’s EO in the middle of a surge was reckless and illegal.

And what are you going to do during the next surge?!?

Kids should have stopped masking last August, as was planned (and as happened throughout much of the US and in Europe). Our family didn't wear masks through the Delta or Omincron surge, and we are definitely not going to do so during the Upsilon, Zeta, etc. surges either. We're done as our all VA public school kids who choose to be.

But you're free to mask for the rest of your life (COVID will be here that entire time too). Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

Keep wearing your masks if you wish--that's fine. Our too young to be vaccinated child brought COVID home from daycare last month. The whole family (vaxxed) got it. We are ready to not mask now. We have natural immunity plus vaccination. Besides that--most of the world, and rest of the U.S. is moving away from mask mandates--what are you holding onto? Maybe try a xanax instead of a mask.

We are coming out of this pandemic soon. We are all ready to stop masking. Some just don’t want to do it in the middle of a surge.

Youngkin’s EO in the middle of a surge was reckless and illegal.

And what are you going to do during the next surge?!?

Kids should have stopped masking last August, as was planned (and as happened throughout much of the US and in Europe). Our family didn't wear masks through the Delta or Omincron surge, and we are definitely not going to do so during the Upsilon, Zeta, etc. surges either. We're done as our all VA public school kids who choose to be.

But you're free to mask for the rest of your life (COVID will be here that entire time too). Good luck.

Same. Our family wore no masks and caved not to the intimidation and coercion to take an experimental substance free from any liability.

Like you said… GOOD LUCK to all. Especially the gullible and fearful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I can't believe the hysterical anti-mask brigade.

They’ve been hysterical for 1.5 years now. Relentless.

I guess at this point there is no chance of reason or facts entering the picture for them.

Keep wearing your masks if you wish--that's fine. Our too young to be vaccinated child brought COVID home from daycare last month. The whole family (vaxxed) got it. We are ready to not mask now. We have natural immunity plus vaccination. Besides that--most of the world, and rest of the U.S. is moving away from mask mandates--what are you holding onto? Maybe try a xanax instead of a mask.

We are coming out of this pandemic soon. We are all ready to stop masking. Some just don’t want to do it in the middle of a surge.

Youngkin’s EO in the middle of a surge was reckless and illegal.

And what are you going to do during the next surge?!?

Kids should have stopped masking last August, as was planned (and as happened throughout much of the US and in Europe). Our family didn't wear masks through the Delta or Omincron surge, and we are definitely not going to do so during the Upsilon, Zeta, etc. surges either. We're done as our all VA public school kids who choose to be.

But you're free to mask for the rest of your life (COVID will be here that entire time too). Good luck.

It depends on a lot of things.

How infectious is it?
How much protections do vaccines/boosters provide?
How severe are infections?
How does it affect children?
How burdened is our healthcare system?

Locking ourselves out of possible motivations will only hurt us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is gong to happen to the tiny shread of credibility of Smart Restart and the Arlington Education Association (especially crying union leader) remaining when masks are optional and nothing happens?

These COVIDians have been consistently wrong and have only damaged our school system by scaring students, parents and teachers:
*Remember when they didn't want to open without 14 days of new cases (we still wouldn't be open)?
*Remember when they said open schools would cause tons of people to die (didn't happen)?
*Remember when they said open schools would result in way more cases in the community (didn't happen; spread in school is less than the community)?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Delta because of SB1303, saying it was too dangerous?
*Remember when they complained about school being forced to be open during Omicron because of SB1303, saying schools would have to close because too much staff would be out?

Please remember the devastation they claim will occur with mask optional schools. Meanwhile, around 1/2 the kids in the US or more are at mask optional schools, with no issue. There are tons of kids in Northern Europe too for the entire pandemic.

These type of criticisms ignore the reality that circumstances and knowledge changed as the pandemic proceeded. No, the supporters of pandemic mitigation measures are not “consistently wrong.” Focusing on 2022 only, limiting the mask mandate in schools on mid January is much riskier than doing so sometime later this month (assuming the Covid infection rates continue their downward trajectory and we really do move toward the end of the pandemic). It does not make the fight against Youngkin lifting the mask mandate weeks ago wrong.

LOL - This was their claims a week ago!
The AEM crazies were going nuts that going maskless was selfish, horrible, signs of being a trumpet
Now that the Dems signed onto the bill AND so many states have started to drop mask mandates, they are totally silent of course.
what happened to all the bravado???
And where are all those teachers who were going to quit if masks weren’t mandatory? A few of them posted on AEM. I will definitely be checking if they quit …

I think the northeast states are acting (as well the changed view of Dr. Lena Wen) both on the lower Covid numbers (they are ahead of the DC area in the reduction of cases) and the reality of having to operate in a world with so many ignorant selfish people like those on this thread that are so up in arms about the limited sacrifice of wearing masks. Unfortunately, it seems this new approach probably wont work either since idiots like those on this thread will claim they were right all along and will continue to ignore the advice of legitimate public health officials. If it were me, I would keep all mandate for the time being.

Sadly I think some of it is politics and Dems who fear a red wave in the next election if they don't create a track record of moving away from masks. So sad that science, again, is NOT what is leading policy. Should there be a plan for an off ramp? Of course. Should that plan be for arbitrary dates without any flexibility to pivot in the future? Of course not, but the hard line Trumpers won't accept anything less. I get it, you don't trust scientists.