Return of real estate to descendants of Black landowners/freeman : CA

[Anonymous]

This legal case gives me hope that in Fort Reno, DC, Chevy Chase, DC and Tulsa (Greenwood) and other communities across the country, there is a possibility of the return of the land and or provide reparations to the descendants of Black homeowners who's land was taken to be given to White community development/White investors: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bruces-beach-california-return-seized-property-black-couples-descendants/?fbclid=IwAR2VYOYUYbs1MgKUkkxh-Zvelt44hKa8ga7XOsdy3QGsSZ9Timj_EabFJJU

For those who may not know the histories:

Fort Reno -https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/e400085dbcf54a9aa0fc13c6fa541f87

Chevy Chase: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/09/29/racist-history-chevy-chase-home-power-players-like-brett-kavanaugh/
https://www.historicchevychasedc.org/news-archive/the-belmont-syndicate-the-lost-plan-for-a-black-chevy-chase/

DC Racial covenants: https://jmt.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=061d0da22587475fb969483653179091

Greenwood (Tulsa, Oklahoma): https://www.greenwoodrising.org/experience
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tulsa-s-greenwood-neighborhood-found-prosperity-after-1921-massacre-then-n1268455

[Anonymous]

Racially restrictive housing covenants or red-lining is very different from this CA case. In the D.C. cases, they were prevented from purchasing in nice areas or refused mortgages/rental rates they qualified for. In the CA case, this family owned the land already and it was outright stolen through eminent domain without the proper value assessed or even against the family's will.

I do think incidents like what happened in Tulsa where the black community was literally massacred overnight and their homes/properties/commercial real estate burned down only to be taken over by white investors who swooped in like piranhas could be investigated and paid out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Racially restrictive housing covenants or red-lining is very different from this CA case. In the D.C. cases, they were prevented from purchasing in nice areas or refused mortgages/rental rates they qualified for. In the CA case, this family owned the land already and it was outright stolen through eminent domain without the proper value assessed or even against the family's will.

I do think incidents like what happened in Tulsa where the black community was literally massacred overnight and their homes/properties/commercial real estate burned down only to be taken over by white investors who swooped in like piranhas could be investigated and paid out.

That happened throughout this country. It happened in Georgia for example. And the white residents just took the land as their own. I am sure many Americans would be surprised if the full extent this history was finally revealed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This legal case gives me hope that in Fort Reno, DC, Chevy Chase, DC and Tulsa (Greenwood) and other communities across the country, there is a possibility of the return of the land and or provide reparations to the descendants of Black homeowners who's land was taken to be given to White community development/White investors: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bruces-beach-california-return-seized-property-black-couples-descendants/?fbclid=IwAR2VYOYUYbs1MgKUkkxh-Zvelt44hKa8ga7XOsdy3QGsSZ9Timj_EabFJJU

For those who may not know the histories:

Fort Reno -https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/e400085dbcf54a9aa0fc13c6fa541f87

Chevy Chase: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/09/29/racist-history-chevy-chase-home-power-players-like-brett-kavanaugh/
https://www.historicchevychasedc.org/news-archive/the-belmont-syndicate-the-lost-plan-for-a-black-chevy-chase/

DC Racial covenants: https://jmt.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=061d0da22587475fb969483653179091

Greenwood (Tulsa, Oklahoma): https://www.greenwoodrising.org/experience
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tulsa-s-greenwood-neighborhood-found-prosperity-after-1921-massacre-then-n1268455

In the California case, the people had no case. There is no legal remedy to what was done now -- right or wring at the time. The state is stepping in to do the right thing. They could just as easily not. PP is right. The other cases have nothing to do with what happened in California. But the government could step in and do something if it wanted to.

But do we want it to? The past even 10 years back, never mind more is murky. Even major wrongs are tough to fix when those people are no longer around.

[Anonymous]

As one who is part native american, looking forward to how this progresses.

[Anonymous]

I'm Irish and would like reparations from the English for what they did to my ancestors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and would like reparations from the English for what they did to my ancestors

Also Irish and I’m still mad at the Brits too, but let’s get real. Ireland is a great place to live and if our great grands had stuck it out we’d be there now with EU passports. Also give my gran’s flaming red hair, I’m pretty sure she was descended from Vikings that stole the land from the celts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and would like reparations from the English for what they did to my ancestors

Also Irish and I’m still mad at the Brits too, but let’s get real. Ireland is a great place to live and if our great grands had stuck it out we’d be there now with EU passports. Also give my gran’s flaming red hair, I’m pretty sure she was descended from Vikings that stole the land from the celts.

6 million Irish died from starvation or relocation. Its only a great place to live because they kicked the f**king British out.

They still haven't recovered to their peak numbers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and would like reparations from the English for what they did to my ancestors

Also Irish and I’m still mad at the Brits too, but let’s get real. Ireland is a great place to live and if our great grands had stuck it out we’d be there now with EU passports. Also give my gran’s flaming red hair, I’m pretty sure she was descended from Vikings that stole the land from the celts.

6 million Irish died from starvation or relocation. Its only a great place to live because they kicked the f**king British out.

They still haven't recovered to their peak numbers

I'm Swedish and I'd like reparations from the Irish for all the slaughtering you did of my Swedish and Norse ancestors, who just wanted to settle on your lands.

I am taking this up with the Brits and the Scots too.

[Anonymous]

To the people comparing current reparations to literal ancient history- when you know better, you do better. Black people getting back their stolen property should not make you feel threatened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the people comparing current reparations to literal ancient history- when you know better, you do better. Black people getting back their stolen property should not make you feel threatened.

Is 1851 ancient history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the people comparing current reparations to literal ancient history- when you know better, you do better. Black people getting back their stolen property should not make you feel threatened.

Is 1851 ancient history?

According to Americans who don’t even want to talk about slavery reparations dating back to 1864…yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the people comparing current reparations to literal ancient history- when you know better, you do better. Black people getting back their stolen property should not make you feel threatened.

So, what is your plan here? The city or the federal government is going to forcibly expel people who bought homes in certain parts of NW DC (almost none of which have any connection to people who developed the area) and give it to African Americans (almost none of which have any connection to people who lived there long ago)? Based on what? Some vague sense of collective guilt and cosmic justice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the people comparing current reparations to literal ancient history- when you know better, you do better. Black people getting back their stolen property should not make you feel threatened.

So, what is your plan here? The city or the federal government is going to forcibly expel people who bought homes in certain parts of NW DC (almost none of which have any connection to people who developed the area) and give it to African Americans (almost none of which have any connection to people who lived there long ago)? Based on what? Some vague sense of collective guilt and cosmic justice?

Maybe it could just be leased to African Americans for 6 years or something.

[Anonymous]

Wait until they do the Native Americans.

Real estate in NYC alone is worth prob a trillion dollars. We all gonna pay natives too?