Does anyone else find Paris Hilton and Ivanka trump very attractive?

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Anonymous wrote:They look very different to me.
I'd say Paris is an unattractive/unique looking woman who, through a combination of surgery and styling, has made herself look "hot" and "expensive".
Ivanka is an unattractive/basic looking woman who, through a combination of surgery and styling, has made herself look like a Stepford Wife.

When I think of a beautiful blonde woman, I think of January Jones, Kim Basinger or Sharon Stone.


Definitely this. Just recently there was a story about Brett Bauer and his home purchase in Palm Beach, he's a Fox News anchor on something. There were pictures of his family in the article and his wife's appearance was shockingly sad to me. Very step ford like, the blond hair, botox, overfilled everywhere. I was curious if she always looked this way and googled her, wow, why would she do that to herself? I just do not get it other than self esteem issues. And don't ask me to link photos, don't know how to do that .... just reminded me a lot of many women I see these days. I just do not understand, she was very pretty before all of that.


Good god I just looked this up (it is Bret Baier not Bauer) and omg, what has she done to herself?!


Somehow she looks like a man now.
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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.


You are legally blind.


No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.


Who do you find attractive for point of reference?


Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.


I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?


This is a very racist post.


Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.


+1 My list of famous beautiful Black women would take up at least an entire page. Michelle Obama isn’t one of them.


DP but my list of famous, beautiful blonde white women would take up at least an entire page, and Paris Hilton and Ivanka Trump wouldn't be on it. The idea that if you say don't find them attractive ***on a post specifically asking if you find these two women attractive*** you're "very jealous and very racist", but if you bring up Michelle Obama out of complete left field when nobody was talking about her in order to denigrate her looks you're just telling it like it is, is . . . special.


It’s not out of left field. There was definitely a hard push in the last decade or so to diversify what is considered beautiful. Look at magazine covers and commercials. The people in them are very different than the people who used to be in them in the 1990s.

Not only are the models more racially diverse, they are also far less attractive overall. They mostly look like flawed everyday people.

It started with Michelle Obama. She is a talented, smart, successful woman, but she’s fairly average in terms of looks. And yet she was put on the cover of every fashion magazine I can think of. Everyone talked about how stunning and beautiful she was. Don’t you remember?

So, now I walk into Target and see objectively unattractive models of all races, posted all over the walls. If I watch a commercial, there’s rarely anyone remotely attractive in it.

Meanwhile, Paris and Ivanka are objectively cute women. They are not my type at all, but they are both way above average in looks. And yet, here are a bunch of people degrading their looks. I rarely see women that pretty walking around, but I see lots of women who look like Michelle Obama, though maybe a little shorter.
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Anonymous wrote:They're both pointy Barbies, wear horrible clothes and far too much make up. They also always look like they are posing, like dolls. Honestly I find it difficult to imagine anyone finds that attractive.

They’ve also had a lot of surgeries.


+1 noses for sure


They are both basically pretty, in a way that most women with access to money are. But I imagine both of them look significantly different without makeup or hair styling, which is why I think most people wouldn’t consider them attractive. There’s an awareness that their attractiveness is generic/fake. Also, I think the proportions of Ivanka’s head/neck are off - I realize many fashion models have similar, but it just makes me think of a bird.
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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”



This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.
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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”



This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.


I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.
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I am black. Ivanka is beautiful to me, but not Paris. She is someone whose just above average looks have been vastly altered by makeup and surgery. Ivanka inherited the lovely bone structure of her mother. I think that the sister of Paris is actually far more naturally attractive.
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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”



This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.


I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.


The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.


You are legally blind.


No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.


Who do you find attractive for point of reference?


Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.


I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?


This is a very racist post.


Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.


+1
My preference is a more olive tone with dark brown hair, like Salma Hayek. But if you can combine that with light colored eyes - that would be my ideal. Same coloring as Mila Kunis with finer features. Mila has a broad nose.
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The difference in our perspectives is interesting. I am the black PP. I find Billie Eilish pretty. Her eyes are stunning and her features symmetrical. Michelle Obama is immaculately groomed and extremely stylish. Many of the black beauties lauded in the mainstream media are or were actually biracial.
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Anonymous wrote:They're both pointy Barbies, wear horrible clothes and far too much make up. They also always look like they are posing, like dolls. Honestly I find it difficult to imagine anyone finds that attractive.

They’ve also had a lot of surgeries.


+1 noses for sure


They are both basically pretty, in a way that most women with access to money are. But I imagine both of them look significantly different without makeup or hair styling, which is why I think most people wouldn’t consider them attractive. There’s an awareness that their attractiveness is generic/fake. Also, I think the proportions of Ivanka’s head/neck are off - I realize many fashion models have similar, but it just makes me think of a bird.

It's the drop off of the lip to throat coupled with a large top. She is like a pigeon. I think she's had a chin added by now but the outfits they lean towards in politics are not flattering. If she walked into a room as a stranger, I'd say she was a pretty but had an awkard gait. If Paris walked into a room as a stranger every head would turn and people would agree she is beautiful. This is about their made up/ well dressed presented selves. Obviously without makeup with plain clothes it could flip or who knows!
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Anonymous wrote:I am black. Ivanka is beautiful to me, but not Paris. She is someone whose just above average looks have been vastly altered by makeup and surgery. Ivanka inherited the lovely bone structure of her mother. I think that the sister of Paris is actually far more naturally attractive.


Ivanka has had a LOT more surgery than Paris and I would argue did not inherit the best of her mother. I think Ivanka is pretty enough, but that is after a ton of work.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.


You are legally blind.


No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.


Who do you find attractive for point of reference?


Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.


But as pp said, attraction is subjective, so maybe they have a self admitted thing for brunettes.

I think facial beauty is a very specific thing that is not necessarily tied to attraction. Jodie Comer for instance is said to have like, the most symmetrical face in hollywood



I don't think she's extremely attractive but I do think she has a very interesting and aesthetically pleasing face.

I think Angelina is very beautiful and Gal Gadot. I think Bridgette Bardot was a very beautiful blonde. 2001 Gwen Stefani. Christy Brinkley. Kate Moss. Heidi Klum. These are people with unique and beautiful faces.

I definitely think Paris wins between Paris and Ivanka and it is because she has not messed that much with her face. She still looks like Paris Hilton. She has always looked like Paris Hilton. Ivanka does not really LOOK like Ivanka anymore and that is where she went wrong. Being ATTRACTIVE or appealing isn't just about what you look like but yes how you carry yourself. Paris has been confidently Paris and that has really made a difference in how well she has aged IMO. This is the difference between Kourt/Kim and Khloe too.

The hair and makeup change but paris is still paris:


Ivanka's face has changed so much that she has lost all the unique aspects that made her look like herself



Wow! Ivanka even changed her eye color!!
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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”



This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.


I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.


The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.


PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.
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Anonymous wrote:I am black. Ivanka is beautiful to me, but not Paris. She is someone whose just above average looks have been vastly altered by makeup and surgery. Ivanka inherited the lovely bone structure of her mother. I think that the sister of Paris is actually far more naturally attractive.


Ivanka has had a LOT more surgery than Paris and I would argue did not inherit the best of her mother. I think Ivanka is pretty enough, but that is after a ton of work.



+1 She inherited just enough from her mom to have a base to work with, but the her face has basically been surgically reconstructed from the eyes down at this point.
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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”



This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.


I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.


The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.


PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.


You don't have to be sorry. No one here loses anything if she is pretty without makeup. She's not as pretty with makeup. Also now she seems to have starved herself into looking like a skeleton, which is also not helping things. Come join the Trump Fashion thread sometime if you want to defend your pal.
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