Does anyone else find Paris Hilton and Ivanka trump very attractive?

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Anonymous wrote:I am black. Ivanka is beautiful to me, but not Paris. She is someone whose just above average looks have been vastly altered by makeup and surgery. Ivanka inherited the lovely bone structure of her mother. I think that the sister of Paris is actually far more naturally attractive.

Ivanka has had a LOT more surgery than Paris and I would argue did not inherit the best of her mother. I think Ivanka is pretty enough, but that is after a ton of work.

+1 She inherited just enough from her mom to have a base to work with, but the her face has basically been surgically reconstructed from the eyes down at this point.

She looks pretty in this old photo, and far more attractive than in recent photos. She looks natural.

C'mon. I think she's gone overboard on the surgery but I understand why she started down that path. She looks like she's missing a chromosome in the old picture.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is that both have either said blatantly racist sh§t (Paris) or come from families that are extremely hostile to POC (Ivanka). Ivanka has also behaved in extremely unethical ways both financially and politically.

It is sad to me that you are perpetuating plastic One dimensional beauty standards that do not make space for POC and people of quality characters.

+1. I sincerely hope you don’t have children that you’re subconsciously passing thee biases along to. Very very sad.

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It is hard to consider one's beauty when they stood by so much ugliness, including family separations

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Well I'll admit I was wrong. Looking through these pics I'd say Paris has had a lot of work done too.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/paris-hilton-history-racism-anti-gay-problematic

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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.

The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.

PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.

You don't have to be sorry. No one here loses anything if she is pretty without makeup. She's not as pretty with makeup. Also now she seems to have starved herself into looking like a skeleton, which is also not helping things. Come join the Trump Fashion thread sometime if you want to defend your pal.

If by skeleton you mean fit, then we agree. I think she has the perfect body.

Also, why do you keep bringing politics into this? We’re talking about looks. You sound like someone who is hateful and jealous and blinded by your politics. I can’t imagine being so narrow minded in my perspective that I can’t get beyond my political views in a silly discussion about looks. To quote your favorite guy, Trump, “that’s just sad.”

I do not mean fit. And you couldn't pay me any amount of money to trade places with Ivanka Trump. There isn't enough money on earth to make that trade.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.

The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.

PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.

You don't have to be sorry. No one here loses anything if she is pretty without makeup. She's not as pretty with makeup. Also now she seems to have starved herself into looking like a skeleton, which is also not helping things. Come join the Trump Fashion thread sometime if you want to defend your pal.

If by skeleton you mean fit, then we agree. I think she has the perfect body.

Also, why do you keep bringing politics into this? We’re talking about looks. You sound like someone who is hateful and jealous and blinded by your politics. I can’t imagine being so narrow minded in my perspective that I can’t get beyond my political views in a silly discussion about looks. To quote your favorite guy, Trump, “that’s just sad.”

You're not talking to the same person, I'm the one who brought up your trend and I am not the PP. Sure people in the public eye skew liberal but the two people you throw out are Michelle Obama and Chelsea Clinton? Two people who are not actually in the public eye much anymore and who not a single person in this thread cited as a beauty standard? Ok. haha.

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Anonymous wrote:Well I'll admit I was wrong. Looking through these pics I'd say Paris has had a lot of work done too.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/paris-hilton-history-racism-anti-gay-problematic

I'm sure she's had work done but she's always looked recognizably like Paris, I think it is likely because like another PP said she never touched her very distinctive nose.

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Anonymous wrote:Well I'll admit I was wrong. Looking through these pics I'd say Paris has had a lot of work done too.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/paris-hilton-history-racism-anti-gay-problematic

I'm sure she's had work done but she's always looked recognizably like Paris, I think it is likely because like another PP said she never touched her very distinctive nose.

Agree, I'm not seeing a lot of work. I'm sure she's dabbled but nothing compared to Ivanka.

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Anonymous wrote:I am black. Ivanka is beautiful to me, but not Paris. She is someone whose just above average looks have been vastly altered by makeup and surgery. Ivanka inherited the lovely bone structure of her mother. I think that the sister of Paris is actually far more naturally attractive.

Are you mad? Ivanka basically had no chin until a surgeon grafted one onto her. If you put her next to a radiator she’d melt.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.

+1 My list of famous beautiful Black women would take up at least an entire page. Michelle Obama isn’t one of them.

DP but my list of famous, beautiful blonde white women would take up at least an entire page, and Paris Hilton and Ivanka Trump wouldn't be on it. The idea that if you say don't find them attractive ***on a post specifically asking if you find these two women attractive*** you're "very jealous and very racist", but if you bring up Michelle Obama out of complete left field when nobody was talking about her in order to denigrate her looks you're just telling it like it is, is . . . special.

It’s not out of left field. There was definitely a hard push in the last decade or so to diversify what is considered beautiful. Look at magazine covers and commercials. The people in them are very different than the people who used to be in them in the 1990s.

Not only are the models more racially diverse, they are also far less attractive overall. They mostly look like flawed everyday people.

It started with Michelle Obama. She is a talented, smart, successful woman, but she’s fairly average in terms of looks. And yet she was put on the cover of every fashion magazine I can think of. Everyone talked about how stunning and beautiful she was. Don’t you remember?

So, now I walk into Target and see objectively unattractive models of all races, posted all over the walls. If I watch a commercial, there’s rarely anyone remotely attractive in it.

Meanwhile, Paris and Ivanka are objectively cute women. They are not my type at all, but they are both way above average in looks. And yet, here are a bunch of people degrading their looks. I rarely see women that pretty walking around, but I see lots of women who look like Michelle Obama, though maybe a little shorter.

You don’t know what objective means so you need to either find out or stop posting your stupid all over the place.

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I’ve seen ivanka IRL at a kids party at zava zone. She was short and ordinary looking

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen ivanka IRL at a kids party at zava zone. She was short and ordinary looking

Short? She’s 5’10”! Seriously, you probably saw someone else who looked like Ivanka.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.

The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.

PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.

You don't have to be sorry. No one here loses anything if she is pretty without makeup. She's not as pretty with makeup. Also now she seems to have starved herself into looking like a skeleton, which is also not helping things. Come join the Trump Fashion thread sometime if you want to defend your pal.

If by skeleton you mean fit, then we agree. I think she has the perfect body.

Also, why do you keep bringing politics into this? We’re talking about looks. You sound like someone who is hateful and jealous and blinded by your politics. I can’t imagine being so narrow minded in my perspective that I can’t get beyond my political views in a silly discussion about looks. To quote your favorite guy, Trump, “that’s just sad.”

You're not talking to the same person, I'm the one who brought up your trend and I am not the PP. Sure people in the public eye skew liberal but the two people you throw out are Michelle Obama and Chelsea Clinton? Two people who are not actually in the public eye much anymore and who not a single person in this thread cited as a beauty standard? Ok. haha.

Fair enough, neither of the Bush sisters is even close to being as pretty as Paris or Ivanka. Linda’s not bad, but Barbara Bush I? Woof, woof! Feel better?

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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.

The fact that you are 'randomly' but REPEATEDLY selecting liberal women to compare who's looks have been scathingly nitpicked in the press is telling.

You do not know really what either of these women looks like without makeup, so that is something. You sound like a man, and men have NO idea just how much makeup can do and just how many women are virtually always wearing SOME makeup.

I hate to break it to some of you middle aged people posting but what is found attractive is changing, just like it always has in the course of the entirety of human history. And those of us who can't evolve will just be following in the footsteps of all the people who aged before us.

I don't 'get' Billie Eilish, but I'm confident that says more about me than the people who like her! In the sense that I am not keeping up with the times. We don't get to dictate to gen z what they find attractive. The wheels of time do not stop for anyone.

PP here, Politics have nothing to do with my examples. Most people in the public spotlight skew liberal. But I can add the Housewives to Orange County, who I believe are mostly conservative to the list of rich, Blonde women who are less attractive than Paris or Ivanka.

I’m a woman who went to Penn, but was not friends, with Ivanka back when she was a liberal. She’s pretty. WITHOUT MAKEUP. Sorry to break it to you.

You don't have to be sorry. No one here loses anything if she is pretty without makeup. She's not as pretty with makeup. Also now she seems to have starved herself into looking like a skeleton, which is also not helping things. Come join the Trump Fashion thread sometime if you want to defend your pal.

If by skeleton you mean fit, then we agree. I think she has the perfect body.

Also, why do you keep bringing politics into this? We’re talking about looks. You sound like someone who is hateful and jealous and blinded by your politics. I can’t imagine being so narrow minded in my perspective that I can’t get beyond my political views in a silly discussion about looks. To quote your favorite guy, Trump, “that’s just sad.”

You're not talking to the same person, I'm the one who brought up your trend and I am not the PP. Sure people in the public eye skew liberal but the two people you throw out are Michelle Obama and Chelsea Clinton? Two people who are not actually in the public eye much anymore and who not a single person in this thread cited as a beauty standard? Ok. haha.

Fair enough, neither of the Bush sisters is even close to being as pretty as Paris or Ivanka. Linda’s not bad, but Barbara Bush I? Woof, woof! Feel better?

Who is Linda Bush? Do you mean Jenna and Barbara? I think they are both perfectly fine looking but clearly have not had much work done and aren't showstoppers but are certainly not unattractive.