Feedback on Cavaliers Travel Lacrosse

[Anonymous]

Eh, I wouldn't be so quick to judge Cavs. Granted I just have a daughter who plays lax but 2023 Cavs is a great team. The mix of kids is different every year within different clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

And a real tour agent is what exactly? Is hoco league fake as well?

[Anonymous]

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Cavs got beaten badly in a scrimmage by a local Loudoun rec team which didn't help their image out here.

I never heard of that, though as I said, there are rec teams that are stacked with travel players.

Cavs 2023 lost to Western Loudoun 14U by double digits. And Wl plays in the 2nd tier 14UA league in the NVYLL. It's a good rec team, but not a powerhouse. The parents on that team were embarrassed.

For Loudoun families who want better lacrosse, VLC is the best option by far. Reasonable driving distance to practices, superior track record for college recruiting. Cavs is content playing in B tournaments and racking up money.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Just go look at the HoCo league standings:

Cavs 2024 is in the A division. They finished out HoCo league 6-1. They will be forced to move up to AA. VLC and Madlax DMV are in the B division VLC closed out 5-2 and Madlax had a bad season at 3-4. They definitely will staying down in B where they belong.

lets get to Cavs 2023

Hoco league, they went to the championship and lost to the Cannons. Both championship teams closed out the season with a 6-1 record. VLC is the same division, but lost their one game to the Cavaliers. The madlax cxapitals team went 4-2 and are without note.

given your utter lack of knowledge, I highly doubt your info about western loudoun rec team, since you think VLC is "the best", their 2022 team had a near perfect season in the hoco league. They lost every single game, except one, where they tied for the toilet bowl. If Lodoun has such an amazing team that can spank a team that went to the HoCo championship game, then they have one of the most remarkable rec programs in the entire tri state area. Makes no sense that a team that crushed the Maxlax caps team gets spanked by a rec team out on the frontier.

VLC would be a HUGE DOWNGRADE from Cavs, at least for boys.

Black Wolf churns out D1 athletes, Such as Dillon Maltz, but if you are concerned with screamers and abusive coaching, stay away from black Wolf (assuming your kid could even make the team)

For real rankings and standing of the local travel teams, check out the HoCo standings page for Spring 2018. Cavs does not have a single B team in the league.

You are a complete idiot. We are an Arlington family and our kids play for NL. Everyone knows that in VA, VLC, Madlax and BW are by far the best options. Cavs is known for playing in lesser events to win trophies. Their best players eventually leave primarily for Madlax and VLC because they want to play for better teams in better tournaments.

Here are some other stupid things you wrote:

2024 - a VLC 24 parent told me they lost to Cavs by 1 goal in their very first game as a team. They asked for a much higher division than B and didn't get it. VLC would likely beat Cavs now

2023 - I don't know many 23 parents, but i can read the Hoco website. Both VLC and Cavs played in the 2nd highest bracket, and VLC WON IT. Cavs didn't even make the final.

2022 - I'm told VLC 22 isn't very good. But at least they are playing AA whereas Cavs are in A.


No objective person thinks Cavs is a better program than either VLC, Madlax or BW. Come on.

Agree with the poster above. If you son wants more exposure or aspires to play at the D1 level, VLC/Blackwolf/Madlax is a better option overall.

Just look at the Cav's 2020 schedule for this year's summer tournaments: Summer Celebration, Kings Challenge and Battle of Bull Run.
Compare to VLC's 2020 schedule: Big 4 Champions League, Crabfeast and Leading Edge Elite.

If you're new to the travel lacrosse tournament circuit, there are levels. I'd say Cavs play in the B level circuit, which limits exposure but opens up opportunities to win the tourney. A level usually showcases the top teams in the country (FCA, 91 Crush, Express, etc.) hence more college coaches sitting on the sidelines with clipboard in hand.

When comparing clubs people are often talking about different things. Some people are like -- a particular Cavs team is better than a particular Madlax or VLC team. Ergo, Cavs are on par with Madlax or VLC. But in terms of recruitment (if you care about that), it's still probably better to be on a theoretical Madlax Capital team that loses to Cavs because of the better exposure the Madlax kid will get.

Exposure to what? Were talking 10, 11, 12yr olds here. How is being on an A or AA team less exposure than being on a B team (that loses).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

What, if anything, is wrong with Shore Wars?

And if it is a less prestigious or competitive tournament, then the theory that Cavs only attend less prestigious or competitive tournaments so they can rack up easy wins doesn't hold up, because the Cavs didn't do well at this tournament.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

What, if anything, is wrong with Shore Wars?

And if it is a less prestigious or competitive tournament, then the theory that Cavs only attend less prestigious or competitive tournaments so they can rack up easy wins doesn't hold up, because the Cavs didn't do well at this tournament.

Are you really that dense? Shore Wars is a C level tournament. That's why Cavs attends it. The fact that they did so poorly makes it even more laughable.

MS is when Cavs really starts losing its best players to VLC and Madlax, kids who want to play with better teammates, against better competition and at better events. When you get to HS, you will look around and realize there is nobody left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

What, if anything, is wrong with Shore Wars?

And if it is a less prestigious or competitive tournament, then the theory that Cavs only attend less prestigious or competitive tournaments so they can rack up easy wins doesn't hold up, because the Cavs didn't do well at this tournament.

Are you really that dense? Shore Wars is a C level tournament. That's why Cavs attends it. The fact that they did so poorly makes it even more laughable.

MS is when Cavs really starts losing its best players to VLC and Madlax, kids who want to play with better teammates, against better competition and at better events. When you get to HS, you will look around and realize there is nobody left.

I'm not dense. I did not play lacrosse and am not obsessed with it, so I don't know which tournaments are "better" and which are "worse". There's no need to be such a fscking dick about it.

[Anonymous]

Cavs 2023 lost to Western Loudoun 2023-age in a scrimmage. WL 2023-age (U-13? not sure) has Blackwolf and Evergreen kids on it so not really some random farm league. Sorry it's not on any website but it happened. Look at it this way -- Cavs are on the way down. Cavs and Evergreen at this point are about even in some age groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

The fact that they would actually attend that tournament is all you need to know about the club. How do you think those teams would fare at a real tournament?

What, if anything, is wrong with Shore Wars?

And if it is a less prestigious or competitive tournament, then the theory that Cavs only attend less prestigious or competitive tournaments so they can rack up easy wins doesn't hold up, because the Cavs didn't do well at this tournament.

Nothing is wrong with Shore Wars. It is a well run tournament with a lot of clubs competing. At lower age groups, who cares go out and have fun!

But if your son's goal is to play in college, they need exposure as they get older - both to better competition and of course, college coaches.

A basic, simple litmus test for parents new to the club lacrosse scene. How many college coaches does the tournament list on their site? 0? 5? 10? 100?

Compare Shore Wars (they don't list any coaches attending) vs. say Crabfeast (over 50 D1 coaches alone, probably over 100 in total). Cavs has never played in Crabfeast. Not sure they will ever get invited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I wouldn't be so quick to judge Cavs. Granted I just have a daughter who plays lax but 2023 Cavs is a great team. The mix of kids is different every year within different clubs.

That's funny. They have been together a long time, but couldn't even qualify for rhe WSYL. They rack up wons playing in terrible events like Aloha Beach bash.

In this area, they are behind DC Dogs, Next Level, Bethesda and VLC. Yet their dads claim they are #16 in the world.

LOL.

[Anonymous]

Cavs 2023 is bragging about going to the NLF championship game. The forget to mention they are playing in the B division.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cavs 2023 is bragging about going to the NLF championship game. The forget to mention they are playing in the B division.

Maybe they should have gotten some older players to "play down" so they could score some classy 10-1 blowouts against teams full of younger kids like MadLax did at Hershey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shore Wars 2018:

Cavs 2026 were 3-1
Cavs 2025 were 1-3
Cavs 2024 were 2-2
Cavs 2022 were 3-1

Not sure how this fits the theory that Cavs only enter "lesser" tournaments so they can rack up trophies. None of their teams won a bracket.

That is one tournament -your figures are off as 5 games were played. Another tournament was won by Cavs by 7 goals in the final with only 1 competitive game. Last fall, Cavs 2024 won against rec teams and lower travel teams with only one close game - I think they won by 7 goals in finals.

Cutting to the chase, it's your player's development that's the most important --- not how many trophies a team wins. And mileage will vary with age group teams - who cares if the 2023 team is great if your kid in 2026?

[Anonymous]

Is Cavs 2023 still a Top 20 national quality team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Cavs 2023 still a Top 20 national quality team?

Teams are reformed every fall so I guess we'll find out after the November tournaments but really it's how they play this spring and summer. 2023s are an outlier for the CAVs with the high quality coaching and player execution. It's likely they will play in higher quality tournaments in the future - not sure why folks need to trash this team in particular.