Tom Cruise’s free pass

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Anonymous wrote:How is it that Tim Cruise has managed to avoid the stink of being a father that abandoned his child? It doesn’t seem like any other major celebrity could not see their child for a decade, through that kid’s entire childhood, and still do interviews where no one asks about it and do hit movie after movie. No one ever asks him about it and it is just so weird that he walked away from a 5 yr old kid forever.

Are you giving Katie Holmes a free pass for alienating her child's father?

Yes, I’m guessing it was in the divorce contract that he not contact Suri. Katie’s escape was well planned and they had the Nicole Kidman model to see how Tom/ Church of Scientology handles the kids in a divorce. They used his behavior with Nicole to figure out what to say in the divorce decree.
I think Tom’s wives are on the end of Narcissitic Abuse so I completely give Katie a pass the way I would anyone attempting to protect their kids from a cult.i

If you don’t, that is on you.

If she refuses contact that is on her and not abandonment.

So that is the free pass and why people don’t get on him: He was legally written out of her life. It isn’t “on her” if she is protecting her kid from abuse.

This is like saying if someone has restraining order against a person, it is the fault of the person seeking the order that the stalker/Domestic abuser can’t contact them. The blame rests with the abuser who needs to be an adult in control of her/himself.

If Tom Cruise were a sane father, and keep his kids out of a cult, he would have access to Suri. He isn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

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I’m sure Tom’s people establish clear rules when it comes to interviews, and people are simply not allowed to ask about Suri.

I suspect Katie agreed to an NDA on Tom, their relationship, etc. in order to get a payout and the kid. I suspect there are clauses that give her an out (meaning if he says or does certain things—like publicly comment on her—then the nda is voided).

That’s the only explanation for why it’s been so quiet for all these years.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure Tom’s people establish clear rules when it comes to interviews, and people are simply not allowed to ask about Suri.

I suspect Katie agreed to an NDA on Tom, their relationship, etc. in order to get a payout and the kid. I suspect there are clauses that give her an out (meaning if he says or does certain things—like publicly comment on her—then the nda is voided).

That’s the only explanation for why it’s been so quiet for all these years.

This exactly. Most people are probably relieved for the mom and daughter, and feel sad for the father.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

Possibly. But I think it's also very likely that she can't say more due to the terms of her agreement.

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I don't think Katie has kept Suri away from Tom. He was papped with Suri a couple times immediately after the divorce. I think Tom has decided that Katie and Suri are Suppressive Persons and he has made the choice to cut them out of his life entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

No, they're Scientologists and consider her a Suppressive Person, so cannot have contact with her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think Katie has kept Suri away from Tom. He was papped with Suri a couple times immediately after the divorce. I think Tom has decided that Katie and Suri are Suppressive Persons and he has made the choice to cut them out of his life entirely.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.

One of the Scientology people who left talked about this in Going Clear. The kids were basically brainwashed against Nicole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.

But even if Scientology / Tom forbade it, in the great state of California, there’s something called parental rights. Even if a court wouldn’t give her joint custody (which would be very unlikely but let’s assume Scientology can influence CA state judges), she could’ve gotten visitation. Why didn’t she pursue legal options? Then again, Tom would’ve had legal options when it came to Suri too. So who knows, maybe Scientology is at the root of all this… or else Nicole just wasn’t that committed to being a mom of her two kids, and Tom just wasn’t that committed to being a dad to Suri.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it that Tim Cruise has managed to avoid the stink of being a father that abandoned his child? It doesn’t seem like any other major celebrity could not see their child for a decade, through that kid’s entire childhood, and still do interviews where no one asks about it and do hit movie after movie. No one ever asks him about it and it is just so weird that he walked away from a 5 yr old kid forever.

Are you giving Katie Holmes a free pass for alienating her child's father?

Yes, I’m guessing it was in the divorce contract that he not contact Suri. Katie’s escape was well planned and they had the Nicole Kidman model to see how Tom/ Church of Scientology handles the kids in a divorce. They used his behavior with Nicole to figure out what to say in the divorce decree.
I think Tom’s wives are on the end of Narcissitic Abuse so I completely give Katie a pass the way I would anyone attempting to protect their kids from a cult.i

If you don’t, that is on you.

If she refuses contact that is on her and not abandonment.

So that is the free pass and why people don’t get on him: He was legally written out of her life. It isn’t “on her” if she is protecting her kid from abuse.

This is like saying if someone has restraining order against a person, it is the fault of the person seeking the order that the stalker/Domestic abuser can’t contact them. The blame rests with the abuser who needs to be an adult in control of her/himself.

If Tom Cruise were a sane father, and keep his kids out of a cult, he would have access to Suri. He isn’t.

We don’t know what kind of father he is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.

But even if Scientology / Tom forbade it, in the great state of California, there’s something called parental rights. Even if a court wouldn’t give her joint custody (which would be very unlikely but let’s assume Scientology can influence CA state judges), she could’ve gotten visitation. Why didn’t she pursue legal options? Then again, Tom would’ve had legal options when it came to Suri too. So who knows, maybe Scientology is at the root of all this… or else Nicole just wasn’t that committed to being a mom of her two kids, and Tom just wasn’t that committed to being a dad to Suri.

Not necessarily. Visitation and custody is left to the judges who can be bias.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.

Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.

She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.

Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.

But even if Scientology / Tom forbade it, in the great state of California, there’s something called parental rights. Even if a court wouldn’t give her joint custody (which would be very unlikely but let’s assume Scientology can influence CA state judges), she could’ve gotten visitation. Why didn’t she pursue legal options? Then again, Tom would’ve had legal options when it came to Suri too. So who knows, maybe Scientology is at the root of all this… or else Nicole just wasn’t that committed to being a mom of her two kids, and Tom just wasn’t that committed to being a dad to Suri.

He probably threatened her with years of litigation to bankrupt her and might have had other leverage. He’s crazy and was far more powerful than her when they divorced.