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Anonymous wrote:
nannydebsays wrote:Nannies have rights under the Fair Labor Standards Act.

What's your point? That live-in nannies should not be required, by law, to be paid OT?


No, my point is that those who state nannies have no rights are blatantly incorrect.

As for LI nannies, they must be paid for every hour worked, and yes, in some states they also are guaranteed OT. If you wish to start a movement to guarantee OT pay for all LI nannies in all states, let me know how to join you.

IMO, concentrating on making sure the rights we already have are enforced is a higher priority. IOW, a LI nanny who is not even getting paid for all hours worked needs support getting that existing right enforced. Then she might choose to rally behind OT.
Anonymous wrote:
nannydebsays wrote:PP, how exactly do you know where the poster you have responded to is getting her certification? Did you go to an accredited mind reading course?

What are you referring to?


01:18 posted: I'm one of the PP's-

I am working towards becoming a Certified Newborn Care Specialist. I know this isn't official, but every Baby Nurse I have talked to (and this has been several) does their taxes an Independent Contractor.

The way it was explained to me is because they choose their clients, set their own hours, work short periods of time, work for several different clients over the year, etc.


Then 10:18 responded: You may want to spend your time & money getting training from an accredited school in newborn care.

Many find this "certified" NCS class to be questionable. Creating a training program you benefit financially from while also being the person to decide its good enough to "certify" you is just crazy. I could create a program and then certify you to the same effect. Means nothing.


At 15:35, I was attempting to determine how 10:18 had deduced where 01:18 was getting her training by asking "PP, how exactly do you know where the poster you have responded to is getting her certification? Did you go to an accredited mind reading course?"
Nannies have rights under the Fair Labor Standards Act.
Anonymous wrote:If we pay our nanny 24 an hour, including her employee taxes, that means she nets about $20 an hour, right?

Going forward, we are looking for a new nanny and would like to pay less (we realize we're paying at the top of the market, at the time we needed to due to some family stressors) and our needs have changed at home. Is it reasonable to be looking for a nanny for $16 an hour and that they are responsible for their own taxes at the end of the year? Basically a 1099 employee .This would be for one new born and a 6 year old who is in school full time 40 hours a week. We're in NW dc and I am a part time WOHM.

Thoughts?



No. You cannot 1099 a nanny. To pay a household employee legally, you must have them fill out a W4 before starting work, withhold their share of SS/Medicare taxes, possibly withhold Fed/State/Local taxes, submit your share of forms and payments to the IRS, and give your employee a W2 in January so that she can properly file her 1040 form.

IRS Form 926 covers your legal obligations, and googling "is nanny an employee" will garner you all sorts of useful and informative articles addressing your question.
PP, how exactly do you know where the poster you have responded to is getting her certification? Did you go to an accredited mind reading course?
Yeah, unless there was a horrific emergency that necessitated them dumping the kids on you and racing off, your MB has smashed all sorts of boundaries, and you need to have a talk with her and your DB.

However, there is some info that might help you get the best possible advice:

How long have you worked at your current job?

Has this ever happened before? If so, how often?

Do you have overtime pay in your contract?

Does the family have a list of sitters they use when you are not available?

Nannies CANNOT be salaried.

Nannies CAN have guaranteed hours written into their contracts.

Parents SHOULD make sure they have a clause in the contract that states nanny's hourly rate, her OT rate (if needed for jobs over 40 hours or jobs when extra hours will be worked occasionally), and her weekly rate of pay, specifying if that is guaranteed or not.
I would have fired her for letting an 8 yo ride in the front seat, and she would have counted herself lucky to have gotten the windshield repaired for $300 at my expense.

I would absolutely NOT rehire her - she risked your kids safety and that's unacceptable.

If you do need help, hire someone else.
I would first speak with your tax adviser to get info on how to manage payments to her as if she was an Independent Contractor or as if she is an employee.

Then ask the person you hire how she handles her taxes, and do so in a way that makes it clear you will either be having her fill out a W4 and sending her a W2 in January, or that you will be sending her a 1099 in January.

Then follow through with whichever income reporting method you and she choose to use. If YOU do everything correctly and have the paperwork to back that up, then you have covered yourself. (Again, I am NOT a tax adviser, so confirm this with one!) If the person you hire doesn't correctly report, I believe that is on her as far as penalties and such are concerned.
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny, I have never told a child I LOVED them.

Nannies must respect certain boundaries and remain professional.

Not necessarily aloof, but professional.

It is a JOB. Many forget this.

I think your Mom Boss is within her rights. It has absolutely nothing to do with jealousy and everything to do with your lack of professionalism.


I am not sure that being a professional nanny means refusing to tell your charges you love them. That sounds horrid, cold, and insensitive, frankly.

You can have boundaries, you can maintain your privacy, respect your employers, whatever, and still be human enough to accept that a child you are with 50 or so hours a week is a child with whom you will develop a bond. I tell my charges (current and former!) that I love them, because it's true. I wouldn't be able to be a nanny for a family that didn't allow me to tell the kids I loved them.

OP, I hope you can work through this and that your MB gets to a place where she accepts that a child being loved by many people is a good thing.
Anonymous wrote:We are buying a house with a full one-bedroom apartment in the basement and so are considering a live-in nanny. How does pay work? Do you give them free rent and then pay them as well? How much do you discount the pay since the rent is free? Or do you set a rent, have them pay it, and then pay them like a regular nanny? Any suggestions would be welcome -- this is an idea we've never really considered before. Thanks in advance!


No, you pay them slightly less than you would pay a live-out nanny per hour, and you do not charge rent. For example, if you need a nanny 50 hours a week, and would pay a LO nanny $15/hour, you would pay a LI nanny $13/hour.

The nanny not having to pay rent is offset by the nanny living at work. Although I am sure you would not take advantage of the nanny living under your roof by constantly asking her to watch the kids "for a minute" when she is not scheduled to work, many many employers do just that. Therefore, a LI nanny winds up being considered to be available to work "on call" without extra pay, and that big negative means a very low wage is not acceptable.

If your hope is to "make enough" on rent to pay a nanny, you'd be better off just renting your bsmt apt out to someone willing to pay market rate, and then using that money to pay a portion of a LO nanny's wages.
WRT the physical aggression, can you try using words that don't bring hitting/kicking to the forefront of his mind? Instead of "We don't hit or kick!" say, "X, you need to use your gentle hands and feet." and show him what gentle hands and feet are, by touching his face or arm, etc. softly.

Sometimes kid brains get caught on a negative word and they literally have to think of that word - the old "Don't think about pink elephants!" thing, KWIM?

Also, although I have used (and do use) harnesses, I think a single stroller sounds more effective for your charge. "X, we are going to walk. If you can't walk or get too tired to walk, I will put you in the stroller until you are ready to try and walk again." Then when he droops to the ground, say, "Oh, you are too tired to walk? Well, let me help you climb in the stroller!" You can teach both kids to hold the stroller instead of your hand.

Basically, you want to give positive praise when he does well, and ignore/give minimal attention when he doesn't. Also, if his twin is walking nicely, praise her for that, or for other behaviors he needs to mimic.
I often grab something from Starbucks drive thru as I head out with kids to our daily adventure. Apparently, since I have promised that soon we will actually go IN the Starbucks to get drinks for myself and the kids, I am heading down the path of nanny ineptitude and child abuse/neglect?
Anonymous wrote:You would think that INA
www.nanny.org
and
the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies
www.theapna.org
would issue a statement, at the very least, with regard to these online nanny agency, illegal practices. But no. Instead they accept $$$$$ from care.com

Why?

Another egregious conflict-of-interest by agency owners.


Proof?

And generally speaking, your conspiracy theory sucks. Why would agencies that COMPETE with on-line sites take money from those same sites.

BBBZZZTTT

Please try again later.

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