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As the PP's said, a share might work depending on the specific hours you need, but re-reading your first post OP, it sounds like you might need hours outside of the normal "nanny hours", like 6 am - 8 am 2x a week, 5 pm - 8 pm 2 times a week, then one daytime slot of 4 - 5 hours. Can you clarify that please, OP?

So I'm going to suggest you try to find an active retiree or empty-nester who wants to supplement their income a bit, but doesn't want FT work, and is willing to be flexible with you as long as you return the favor. A "Granny-Nanny" of sorts.
IMO, all you owe her is a kind "Thanks for working for us these last X days, but we feel that this match is not the best fit for us. We wish you luck in your job search."
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I have 5 years of nanny experience with little newborn and no twin experience. My experience is with toddlers ages 1-3. This is a true live-in nanny job. The family wants a nanny who will live there permanently.


Oh, OK. Well, first, I think that they are not in touch at all with what a nanny must legally make, not to mention the market rate for a nanny, so I'd guess job creep would start on day 1 if they meet your pay needs, because they'll feel they are overpaying you. Second, unless you've worked as a LI before, and/or are able to set and keep serious boundaries around work time vs. off time, you'll be in for a world of hurt with unpaid work hours.

That said, if you want the job, I would document what care and sittercity's wage calculators say would be the correct rate for a nanny caring for infant twins, and I would ask some local agencies to price the job as well, given your experience level. Then go back to them and present that info and make your case as to why you are worth $15/hour.

Good luck!
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OP here. Mea culpas for all the typos on original post. No, I'm not being sarcastic and I am not a nanny. I truly do not understand why anyone would take care of someone else's child(ren) for so little money. $20.000/hr is a bit over $40,000/yr. , $32 after taxes. This is not very much to live on in this area. To me, nannying would be a thankless job with no job security, mistreatment, micromanagement, and horrendous job creepage. This is a high stress job , and tney should be paid a lot more.


You aren't a nanny. You don't want to be a nanny because you assume it is a thankless job with no job security, mistreatment, micro management, job creep, and high stress. While any of those are a possibility, there are a possibility in any job. The fact is, most nanny jobs are fairly low stress and paid quite well considering the lack of education and qualifications required.


Exactly. It's a step up (pay-wise) from flipping burgers and white frankly, requires the same level of skill and education.


So to both of you, if you have kids, did you find your childcare by stealing a worker away from McDonald's and hoping for the best? Or did you make an effort to find someone who had a few skills beyond burger flipping?

I mean, you could hire someone off the streets and hope they have both the skills and sense to keep your kids alive 5 days a week, or you could extend your vision a bit and seek out someone who can do more than that. Someone who, shockingly, might know way more about children and their care than you do!
Anonymous wrote:just out of curiosity, how much does a live-in night nanny to twins make?i would take care of the babies in the middle of the night, so the parents could sleep. bath, formula feed, burp, diaper,change the babies. no heavy cleaning involved like scrubbing bathrooms, running a vacuum or anything. the hours would be M-F with weekends off. i think i would be expected to help out a little during the day too.

I am now paid $15/hour as a live-out nanny caring for one baby age 9 months. interested to know what nannies have made for this kind of situation? and eventually the babies would sleep through the night so my hours would change to daytime. it seems like a lot of money to have this kind of help.


I would think $15/hour would be rock bottom minimum for someone with relatively little newborn and/or twin experience. OP, you don't say how much experience you have with newborns, or how much nanny experience you have overall, but if you'll be doing full-on night nanny work (sleeping only when babies sleep and chores are done) plus being expected to "help out a little" during the day, you might want to go higher. And you aren't a true LI nanny. Newborn Care Specialists and Night Nannies often live with families while on the job, but don't price their work as a LI would, since their time there isn't "permanent" in any sense of the word.

Of course, if this family wants to pay $6/hour for night nanny care for twins, you won't be working for them, so...

BTW, I know of a Night Nanny who charges $2500/week for 24/7 care for singletons, and she works all over the US. Her twin rate is $4000/week.
OP, what would nanny's schedule be like if she continued to work for you 5 days a week? Would she be responsible for walking your kids to school, or would she only have to pick them up?

The answer to this question will determine whether it's possible for her to find a 2nd position or not:

Possible for nanny to work 2 jobs, as long as you or your So covers any days off of school until nanny's start time:You take boys to school 3 days a week at 9. Nanny picks them up at 1 and stays until 5:30. The other 2 days, nanny works her normal 8a - 5p. Nanny works 3 mornings a week for a family within walking distance to your home and the kids school. During school breaks, holidays, and sick days, you or your SO care for the kids until 1 pm when nanny arrives.

Not likely that nanny can work 2 jobs: Nanny arrives every day at 8, and 3 days per week walks boys to school at 9. Then nanny returns to school at 11:30 or Noon to pick kids up and continues to work until 5. Nanny works 8a - 5p on any and all days boys do not have school, like holidays and sick days.

Scenario #1 means nanny could find work 3 days a week from 8a - 12:30p within walking distance from your school/home, and that the 2nd family could fully expect her to be available 52 weeks a year.

Scenario #2 means nanny would have about 2 hours, 3 days a week, unless one or both of your boys wasn't going to school, to get to, work at, and return from a second job.
OP, back to your question:

If you and your husband cannot use daycare, what have you planned to do for childcare if you furlough your nanny, she finds a new job, and then you get called back to work? Do you have a back-up plan of any kind for childcare during the time you might have to take to find and hire a *new* nanny?

If you don't have plans already made for the above scenario, you might be better off keeping your nanny on, asking your families for help financially, and being ready to go back to work when the gov't gets it's act together. The alternative, being called back to work and having no childcare, seems awfully risky - if you can't work you'll be fired, and then you will have no income to spend on childcare.
A general rule of thumb is that a baby needs 2 - 2.5 oz of breast milk or formula per pound of weight. Allowing baby less than that with a specified goal of keeping baby under the 50th percentile on the weight charts is terrible, since underfeeding can cause failure to thrive, which can be deadly. Of course, babies also need to eat adequately to promote healthy brain development and physical development.

Re: the OP's issue, 4 oz every 4 hours round the clock would be adequate for a baby weighing 10 - 12lbs. 4 oz every 4 hours for 4 feeds during the day and nothing at night would only be adequate for a baby weighing 6.4 - 8lbs, and would be inadequate for a 14 week old unless the baby was a premie who was only about 2 - 3 weeks adjusted age.
As tough as all the changes are on your child, and you, I would tough it out unless you feel the nanny isn't managing his care well.

I would wait at least a month, and I would also consider switching houses only weekly or even monthly p every day you take him somewhere different is another day that adds to the unsettled feelings he is already dealing with, IMO.
OP, what sort of gas mileage does your vehicle get? If you are literally burning way more than $2.50 worth of gas in your Hummer, then maybe asking for a higher reimbursement is a logical idea.

But honestly, if you worked for me and told me you wanted more than the IRS mileage reimbursement because you are "burning gas" driving 5 miles in rush hour traffic, I would privately laugh at you, give you a small talk about realistic expectations, and start considering where to look for your replacement.
http://www.4nannytaxes.com/index.cfm/resources/news-and-updates/flsa-overtime-rules/

Apparently CA already had an OT pay differential of some kind for LI caregivers.
The right to OT is not new and exciting, unless CA has extended that right to live-in nannies/caregivers.

Way back in the day, the Fair Labor Standards Act guaranteed OT to household workers, I believe.
If the hours are fixed, so that nanny could get a second PT job to make ends meet, that might work.

Or, if you were willing to hire a college student nanny, and cope with some turnover when college class schedules change, that's a possibility.
Anonymous wrote:Worked part-time (15-25 hrs/wk for 5 weeks) with a family over the summer, paid cash weekly. It has been a month since I've completed my job and she just emailed me asking for my SSN for the flex spending childcare fund.. Anyone familiar with this program? She said it isn't for taxes and since I was paid cash, I didn't even deduct taxes to send to IRS.


25 x 13 x 5 = $1625 - if that's what you earned, you are below the threshold for taxes, as far as I know.

I would ask to meet them somewhere to fill out the paperwork - I always have had to sign off on this sort of thing anyway, so you might as well meet them, confirm what they are claiming as your pay, and give them your info.
Anonymous wrote:And NAN was owned by Nanny Care Tribe Owner


No, actually, but thanks for playing!
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