Nanny wants 60k/year plus benefits

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I doubt you’ve ever visited an actual baby lap time, museum, zoo class or music class. Also, this classes take place during school hours (out of the public eye) so how are you viewing them with your older kids? Also, why do you keep dismissing that good parents and nannies do these activities in addition to what they do at home?

I don't. I am dismissing the notion that "activities" like music classes, storytimes etc. have any value at all for infants.

Ignorance is bliss. Stay blissful.

You still haven't explained what it is that a storytime session delivers to an infant that you can't.

There is absolutely no point in explaining anything to a person like you. You are blissfully ignorant. Education and exposure have never and will never be your friend. Stay wonderfully suburban.

But can you explain it? Or not?

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein 's mother stayed home and did none of t,hese things, yet, somehow he came up with EC2. Same thing with Edison, Ford, Galieo, da vinchi. They should have been reported to CPS

Well when your child reaches their level let’s talk.

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Having a mentally healthy caregiver benefits the baby. What’s your problem?

My problem with the pretense infants need classes.

This is just one of the many problems you seem to have Karen. Go seek help.

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I doubt you’ve ever visited an actual baby lap time, museum, zoo class or music class. Also, this classes take place during school hours (out of the public eye) so how are you viewing them with your older kids? Also, why do you keep dismissing that good parents and nannies do these activities in addition to what they do at home?

I don't. I am dismissing the notion that "activities" like music classes, storytimes etc. have any value at all for infants.

If it provides opportunities for their adult (parent/nanny) caregivers to socialize a bit, that’s huge. No adult should be isolated at home with a baby all day, every day. Surely this is common sense, no?

And that's perfectly all right. Yes, caregivers need some time to kick back and chat. Some variety is always welcome. Just don't pretend it's for the baby. I should also note that caregivers can socialize in a variety of settings.

I don’t socialize at story time or infant music class. The point to it (for me, for my charge) is start setting boundaries for social situations. They stay on my lap, and I blow air gently over their ear, do gentle tickles and pattycake, etc. Things that bring their focus back to me when they get distracted by other babies, then I redirect back to the teacher or librarian. By the time they are 12-18 months, they are capable of sitting down for a few minutes without me on the floor with them (length of one song or short book), and they’re engaging with the other adult, not with me.

Reading at home is focused on receptive language, allowing them to hold and explore the book, talking about the pictures, etc. There are no distractions from other babies, no other adults with whom to engage. They aren’t learning to sit still and not cause distractions, because about half of our reading time is while they’re playing with something else.

Both are worthwhile. For a child who will start preschool at 1.5-3, starting to learn social behavior early is crucial. Preschool teachers know who just stayed home vs who went to activities and learn to behave during a book or activity. The former struggle initially with everything, while the latter mainly deal with separation.

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein 's mother stayed home and did none of t,hese things, yet, somehow he came up with EC2. Same thing with Edison, Ford, Galieo, da vinchi. They should have been reported to CPS

They also used corporal punishment to teach their children to behave. Would you prefer that to gentle expectations and redirection until the learn cause/effect?

Also, the fraction of people who have truly awe-inspiring minds is minuscule. The vast majority are average, and the best most of us can hope to do is to continue learning, continue seeking out knowledge. The average child won’t be Einstein, Newton, Kepler or Copernicus, and to compare their childhood as exceptional minds in a much different time to an average to smart child now is not only pointless, it’s a false analogy.

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I don’t socialize at story time or infant music class. The point to it (for me, for my charge) is start setting boundaries for social situations. They stay on my lap, and I blow air gently over their ear, do gentle tickles and pattycake, etc. Things that bring their focus back to me when they get distracted by other babies, then I redirect back to the teacher or librarian. By the time they are 12-18 months, they are capable of sitting down for a few minutes without me on the floor with them (length of one song or short book), and they’re engaging with the other adult, not with me.

Reading at home is focused on receptive language, allowing them to hold and explore the book, talking about the pictures, etc. There are no distractions from other babies, no other adults with whom to engage. They aren’t learning to sit still and not cause distractions, because about half of our reading time is while they’re playing with something else.

Both are worthwhile. For a child who will start preschool at 1.5-3, starting to learn social behavior early is crucial. Preschool teachers know who just stayed home vs who went to activities and learn to behave during a book or activity. The former struggle initially with everything, while the latter mainly deal with separation.

I can't say I would find this terribly necessary, but I really appreciate that you took the time to explain what you do and how this works in your understanding.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

We are all so impressed with your desire to go with the cheaper childcare option even though you make 6 figures. Nannies everywhere are crying over the job loss.

Budget =/= income. DCUM’s “professional nannies” leave me really thinking I never want to hire one. Not because of cost. Because of attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

We are all so impressed with your desire to go with the cheaper childcare option even though you make 6 figures. Nannies everywhere are crying over the job loss.

Budget =/= income. DCUM’s “professional nannies” leave me really thinking I never want to hire one. Not because of cost. Because of attitude.

Tons of doormat sitters out there are waiting for your demands. Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

We are all so impressed with your desire to go with the cheaper childcare option even though you make 6 figures. Nannies everywhere are crying over the job loss.

Budget =/= income. DCUM’s “professional nannies” leave me really thinking I never want to hire one. Not because of cost. Because of attitude.

Then why mention you have 6 figures? If you prefer the young, foreign, inexperienced woman coming to America for a cultural experience to raise your children more power to you. But no one cares what you think of DCUM nannies who aren’t pushovers. No one cares if you make 6 figures. The only person impressed by you, is yourself. So move along to the au pair forum and complain about them eating your food, wanting to party, having a boyfriend and how many times you have to rematch.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

Because au pairs actually work flexible schedules without all this complaining and pushback about “job creep” (aka actually doing all of the job).

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

Because au pairs actually work flexible schedules without all this complaining and pushback about “job creep” (aka actually doing all of the job).

Live-in 24/7 nanny. No flex schedule, just available as needed (certainly more than an AP is). And provided you’re willing to clearly list the duties and I agree to them (and feel that’s it’s actually possible to accomplish them while doing the main task of educating the children), I’m happy to take on many, many tasks. But I expect adequate compensation and to be treated like what I’m doing has value, not like any random person with no experience and no education could do the same or better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

Because au pairs actually work flexible schedules without all this complaining and pushback about “job creep” (aka actually doing all of the job).

So you want a low paying work horse. Got it. Also, aren’t au pairs are only allowed a certain amount of hours? And they aren’t maids/servants are they?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

Because au pairs actually work flexible schedules without all this complaining and pushback about “job creep” (aka actually doing all of the job).

Live-in 24/7 nanny. No flex schedule, just available as needed (certainly more than an AP is). And provided you’re willing to clearly list the duties and I agree to them (and feel that’s it’s actually possible to accomplish them while doing the main task of educating the children), I’m happy to take on many, many tasks. But I expect adequate compensation and to be treated like what I’m doing has value, not like any random person with no experience and no education could do the same or better.

Agree. But you won’t get that from the previous poster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread validating my preference for au pairs despite having a 6 figure childcare budget.

Why do you have 6 figure childcare budget?! And you went with an au pair instead of a governess or experienced teacher turned nanny or high quality daycare/private center? Yeah, you reek of troll.

Because au pairs actually work flexible schedules without all this complaining and pushback about “job creep” (aka actually doing all of the job).

So you want a low paying work horse. Got it. Also, aren’t au pairs are only allowed a certain amount of hours? And they aren’t maids/servants are they?

Au pairs can work 45 hours, travel with you, and do child related chores including cooking (for the kids) and cleaning (kid messes and spaces) and laundry. All stuff I’ve seen nannies here moan about.