Nanny wants 60k/year plus benefits

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People who pay the nanny 30+ aren’t going to admit that to their friends. Why would they?

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Anonymous wrote:People who pay the nanny 30+ aren’t going to admit that to their friends. Why would they?

? I freely admit paying $28 an hour for my son’s wonderful nanny if a friend asks. She will be increased to $29 in March.

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Anonymous wrote:This forum is so trolled . All of my friends and I have nannies , in northern Virginia $22/hr for two kids is standard , and that includes tax deductions. The nurse who posted is correct a nanny who barely has any advanced degree does not deserve $28/hr that’s crazy !
A lot of well off parents in McLean etc are cuckolds that accept whatever rate a nanny proposes but please get your heads straight !

OP never gave the hours. It makes all the difference as most nannies work 50 hours a week. Overtime brings the hourly rate down to about $23 an hour - for two children, this is far from outlandish.

And the nurse doesn’t even have a bachelors degree. She is no one to talk.

I'm the nurse. I have a bachelor's degree in nursing.
Georgetown and GW and WHC start nurses with bachelor's degrees at $55K. With 10 years of experience (and a bachelor's degree) they pay around $75K.

Please understand that some of the nannies here have BA degrees in Education and years of teaching experience. Why should they be paid less than you?

Ummm...the whole life saving thing? An incompetent nurse can literally kill you. The stakes are higher in nursing. RNs are licensed, which adds another barrier to entry that's absent in nannying. Don't misunderstand, I'm not putting down nannies, simply explaining my opinion on why nurses are paid higher.

The “life saving thing”? Ha ha! NP here and in business and I earn five times that without the “life saving thing”.

And my plumber and electrician are licensed. So is my hair stylist!

Your rebuttal doesn’t hold a drop of water, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is serious trolling here . NONE of the families in my neighborhood or my coworkers or friends pay anywhere close to that . $22 pre tax is the going rate . Even for some nannies who were a doctor or nurse in their native country . Another northern Virginian here .

That’s why. Suburban families don’t typically pay very high or well.

I don't know what to tell you. I don't think there are any meaningful differences in the SES of families across upper NW/McLean/Bethesda so there is no particular reason why nanny rates would fluctuate so much across these jurisdictions. Families with children still leave DC at a good clip, and close-in suburbs are home to many more families with children than DC so logically they would be a larger market for nannies. I work for an international organization headquartered in DC. Most people who work there have graduate degrees and are paid very well. They live all over the place and many employ nannies. I haven't heard of anyone paying $30/hr (and people look for good nannies all the time so discussion of nanny rates and norms is common). I hear $20 - $23 range all the time. Never heard of $30/hr. I don't doubt that they exist somewhere bc every market has a premium segment but it is necessarily small. I just don't think they are the norm or reflective of the larger market trends.

I don’t know what to tell you either. Suburban families pay less and demand more. Never said their SES was low or that they didn’t come from the city. Idk why when you move into the suburbs you want cheaper care. Idk why suburban families want you to sit in the house all day. Your norm is different from others. And that’s what suburban families don’t realize.

I live in McLean. Our nanny is out for a minimum of 4 hrs a day. I don't know any family in the suburbs that want their nanny to sit at home all day. That's not what you get a nanny for. So I am not sure what suburban families you know that insist on confining the nanny and child to the house. There are ample sidewalks, parks and playgrounds in close-in suburbs. Unless you're as old as Methuselah, I think I have more friends and neighbors with nannies than you've had employers.

Well then I guess you’re the expert. I’m so happy your nanny and your friend’s nannies enjoy those awesome sidewalks and parks out there in McLean. I’ll be off doing actual activities like going to museums, libraries, the zoo, etc with my charges.

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Well then I guess you’re the expert. I’m so happy your nanny and your friend’s nannies enjoy those awesome sidewalks and parks out there in McLean. I’ll be off doing actual activities like going to museums, libraries, the zoo, etc with my charges.

LOL who wants to stay indoors now? Btw, we have libraries in McLean, very nice ones. My children are too young for museums. I prefer them to have ample time in the fresh air, touching the grass and the leaves, walking in the woods, hearing the birds, putting their hands in the creek, climbing the small hills...I know not everyone is comfortable with that. Some nannies don't like to get dirty or do too much cleanup for their charges.

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Well then I guess you’re the expert. I’m so happy your nanny and your friend’s nannies enjoy those awesome sidewalks and parks out there in McLean. I’ll be off doing actual activities like going to museums, libraries, the zoo, etc with my charges.

LOL who wants to stay indoors now? Btw, we have libraries in McLean, very nice ones. My children are too young for museums. I prefer them to have ample time in the fresh air, touching the grass and the leaves, walking in the woods, hearing the birds, putting their hands in the creek, climbing the small hills...I know not everyone is comfortable with that. Some nannies don't like to get dirty or do too much cleanup for their charges.

Oh, I’m so sorry if you're feeling offended or hurt. That was not my intention. Like I said, I’m sure you’re awesome and so are your neighbors. I’m also sure if you spent more time developing your world, along with your children you would understand what examples are and what etc means. Wandering the woods is a wonderful activity for a child (although if they’re old enough to do that I’m confused how they would be too young for a museum). I just like to incorporate more than one activity into the world of the children I provide care. I mean some parents want exposure to multiple activities and others make excuses.

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Well then I guess you’re the expert. I’m so happy your nanny and your friend’s nannies enjoy those awesome sidewalks and parks out there in McLean. I’ll be off doing actual activities like going to museums, libraries, the zoo, etc with my charges.

LOL who wants to stay indoors now? Btw, we have libraries in McLean, very nice ones. My children are too young for museums. I prefer them to have ample time in the fresh air, touching the grass and the leaves, walking in the woods, hearing the birds, putting their hands in the creek, climbing the small hills...I know not everyone is comfortable with that. Some nannies don't like to get dirty or do too much cleanup for their charges.

Oh, I’m so sorry if you're feeling offended or hurt. That was not my intention. Like I said, I’m sure you’re awesome and so are your neighbors. I’m also sure if you spent more time developing your world, along with your children you would understand what examples are and what etc means. Wandering the woods is a wonderful activity for a child (although if they’re old enough to do that I’m confused how they would be too young for a museum). I just like to incorporate more than one activity into the world of the children I provide care. I mean some parents want exposure to multiple activities and others make excuses.

What offense? You're making no sense. First, the suburban parents keep you indoors, then they're spending too much time outdoors? First, you're doing "actual activities" as opposed to walks in the park, and now walks are a "wonderful activity?" You're twisting yourself into pretzels to seem superior and it all looks so silly.

Activities should serve the child. Not the parents' vanity or the nanny's boredom.

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I had one mother tell us to stay home if it might rain, because a car might skid and kill us.

You can’t make up some of this craziness!

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Anonymous wrote:I had one mother tell us to stay home if it might rain, because a car might skid and kill us.

You can’t make up some of this craziness!

Toddlers 16 months old, and they’d never been out of the stroller outside, not even in the grass. I wasn’t allowed to take them to a park, library, anywhere. Just a walk around the block in the stroller.

I lasted 2 months.

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Well then I guess you’re the expert. I’m so happy your nanny and your friend’s nannies enjoy those awesome sidewalks and parks out there in McLean. I’ll be off doing actual activities like going to museums, libraries, the zoo, etc with my charges.

LOL who wants to stay indoors now? Btw, we have libraries in McLean, very nice ones. My children are too young for museums. I prefer them to have ample time in the fresh air, touching the grass and the leaves, walking in the woods, hearing the birds, putting their hands in the creek, climbing the small hills...I know not everyone is comfortable with that. Some nannies don't like to get dirty or do too much cleanup for their charges.

Oh, I’m so sorry if you're feeling offended or hurt. That was not my intention. Like I said, I’m sure you’re awesome and so are your neighbors. I’m also sure if you spent more time developing your world, along with your children you would understand what examples are and what etc means. Wandering the woods is a wonderful activity for a child (although if they’re old enough to do that I’m confused how they would be too young for a museum). I just like to incorporate more than one activity into the world of the children I provide care. I mean some parents want exposure to multiple activities and others make excuses.

What offense? You're making no sense. First, the suburban parents keep you indoors, then they're spending too much time outdoors? First, you're doing "actual activities" as opposed to walks in the park, and now walks are a "wonderful activity?" You're twisting yourself into pretzels to seem superior and it all looks so silly.

Activities should serve the child. Not the parents' vanity or the nanny's boredom.

Ma’am, who said you are spending too much time outdoors? Where was it said being outside wasn’t great? You originally listed walking on the sidewalk and going to parks/playgrounds as activities your nanny does. Additional examples for development were listed (as going to the park/playground are a given when you take care of children) and you became defensive. You should try reading and comprehending better. Also, if you are unfamiliar with all the activities geared toward children, toddlers and infants at museums, the zoo, libraries, etc then I don’t know what to tell you. You’re reading what isn’t there and trying to prove who knows what. Like I’ve been saying, I’m sure you’re awesome and so are your neighbors. It’s just a different world in the suburbs with a different mindset of parents. Thank you for continually proving this.

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Anonymous wrote:I had one mother tell us to stay home if it might rain, because a car might skid and kill us.

You can’t make up some of this craziness!

Toddlers 16 months old, and they’d never been out of the stroller outside, not even in the grass. I wasn’t allowed to take them to a park, library, anywhere. Just a walk around the block in the stroller.

I lasted 2 months.

That's crazy. My 16-year old and I went around the block today in the light drizzle. No stroller. He held my hand. Occasionally he was unruly or wanted to sit down so what's a big deal? He got up eventually. They go crazy if confined indoors so I take them out even in the weather when most people don't.

That mom is crazy.

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Umm...that’s the idea you have. No one said infants need activities. However, I personally believe doing more than sitting in the house with an infant helps their development.

Actually yes, somebody did say that:

"Also, if you are unfamiliar with all the activities geared toward children, toddlers and infants at museums, the zoo, libraries, etc then I don’t know what to tell you. "

You don't have to sit at the house with an infant - that's the part that no one suggested. But yo don't need to drag them to a museum or a library, either. You know what you can do? Read a damn book to the baby. Sing a song. Ring a rattle. You know, like nannies do.

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Umm...that’s the idea you have. No one said infants need activities. However, I personally believe doing more than sitting in the house with an infant helps their development.

Actually yes, somebody did say that:

"Also, if you are unfamiliar with all the activities geared toward children, toddlers and infants at museums, the zoo, libraries, etc then I don’t know what to tell you. "

You don't have to sit at the house with an infant - that's the part that no one suggested. But yo don't need to drag them to a museum or a library, either. You know what you can do? Read a damn book to the baby. Sing a song. Ring a rattle. You know, like nannies do.

Actually no, you should reread. No one said you NEED to do those activities. They just listed activities. Look, you have your idea of what a basic parent and nanny does. When you are paying someone they should be going above and beyond what you, yourself would be doing. If sitting in the house and singing, reading and shaking a rattle is all you would do, why would you pay someone to only do that too? They should be doing that AND exposing your child to more.

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Anonymous wrote:I had one mother tell us to stay home if it might rain, because a car might skid and kill us.

You can’t make up some of this craziness!

Toddlers 16 months old, and they’d never been out of the stroller outside, not even in the grass. I wasn’t allowed to take them to a park, library, anywhere. Just a walk around the block in the stroller.

I lasted 2 months.

That's crazy. My 16-year old and I went around the block today in the light drizzle. No stroller. He held my hand. Occasionally he was unruly or wanted to sit down so what's a big deal? He got up eventually. They go crazy if confined indoors so I take them out even in the weather when most people don't.

That mom is crazy.

We agree with you, but some parents (especially, though not exclusively, ftm) are so fearful of their child being hurt that the child doesn’t get to experience much or any of the world.

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Umm...that’s the idea you have. No one said infants need activities. However, I personally believe doing more than sitting in the house with an infant helps their development.

Actually yes, somebody did say that:

"Also, if you are unfamiliar with all the activities geared toward children, toddlers and infants at museums, the zoo, libraries, etc then I don’t know what to tell you. "

You don't have to sit at the house with an infant - that's the part that no one suggested. But yo don't need to drag them to a museum or a library, either. You know what you can do? Read a damn book to the baby. Sing a song. Ring a rattle. You know, like nannies do.

Actually no, you should reread. No one said you NEED to do those activities. They just listed activities. Look, you have your idea of what a basic parent and nanny does. When you are paying someone they should be going above and beyond what you, yourself would be doing. If sitting in the house and singing, reading and shaking a rattle is all you would do, why would you pay someone to only do that too? They should be doing that AND exposing your child to more.

They can expose them to more when it's developmentally appropriate. Infants don't belong in museums. You reading to them is much more useful than "storytimes". You singing to them and playing music is all the "music class" they need. In what way is storytime more than you? In what way is a music class more than you? It's a different person doing the same thing.