Nanny asking for ridiculous raise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, do you have a new nanny lined up?

Yes she does.

Her part ~ time housekeeper.
•-Bonus that her son already knows her too. G

[Anonymous]

It's fortunately far easier to stand your ground on something like this with a good backup plan in place. OP, agreed with others that this was all a bit over the top for your nanny to be demanding. (I'd feel somewhat differently if her current rate was well below market, but it's clearly not!) Three chances seems more than adequate--that's a second and then a third chance too. Hopefully you can just move forward at this point.

[Anonymous]

Maybe she already has a better job offer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she already has a better job offer.

Hopefully she does and she's not stupid enough to try this again

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. A week ago she asked for $30/h. We discussed it again after that and again this week. She had 2 opportunities to accept. This was my last offer. I wasn’t going to sit around and let her manipulate us like were owe her a big raise. Now the 3rd time she wanted to think about it? Nope. Not in my book. And for those of you saying my 4 year old is going to pay, fortunately he’ll be fine. My housekeeper has been with us since before he was born so she is very familiar with him and so is he. She’s baby sat him before on days where the nanny couldn’t. He adores her as well.

Yeah, mothers like you always say "he'll be fine". And you're right - he is not going to die but it is not good for him either. Someone who cared for him has disappeared and he cannot understand why.You should have calmed down and given the nanny of four years a chance to accept the final offer and save face.

Sometimes, as a parent, it is not about "our book" - it is about our kids' books.

You can explain why - "the nanny wanted too much money to stay with you, and she snoops around our house to look at things that aren't her business. We don't want people like this around, do we?"

[Anonymous]

Good for you OP. It's great that you have an option that allowed you to just give her severance - a clean break is much better in this circumstance.

And I agree that there was no repairing the employer/employee relationship at this point. The nanny badly misplayed her hand and you will have absolutely no trouble finding someone great, probably at significant savings to you.

Your 4 year old will be fine - you can manage the short term "Where is Judy? I miss Judy" stuff calmly and easily and there will be no harm done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for you OP. It's great that you have an option that allowed you to just give her severance - a clean break is much better in this circumstance.

And I agree that there was no repairing the employer/employee relationship at this point. The nanny badly misplayed her hand and you will have absolutely no trouble finding someone great, probably at significant savings to you.

Your 4 year old will be fine - you can manage the short term "Where is Judy? I miss Judy" stuff calmly and easily and there will be no harm done.

I am very vocal with him and try to explain to him in the best way possible. I explained to him his nanny would no longer come everyday because she could not work for us anymore. I told him husband new nanny would be with him everyday. So far he asked asked about her since it’s only been a day.

[Anonymous]

How the new nanny *** not husband! ^^

[Anonymous]

Omg spell check is the worst! In the last sentence I meant he has NOT asked about her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Neither party valued the relationship past money. That's the real problem.

BS! OP valued the nanny! Paid well, good benefits, open to retaining a relationship ... what makes you think the OP didn’t value the nanny? Because she wouldn’t give in to ridiculous demands?

She could have given her a chance to accept the $27 raise. Instead she ended it and let her go.

She gave her another chance. Nanny declined. Family stated that they would let her go, due to nanny’s rate increase. Nanny tried to change her tune. OP did everything right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you mind sharing what her starting salary was, what her annual raises have been, and what she’s asking for? I asked for more than my bosses were expecting, but did so based on my performance and flexibility, not their increase me. There is a reason they make significantly more than me! We met in the middle and were all very happy. I wouldn’t dream of behaving the way you are describing.

Op here. In 2014, her salary has $20/h for my 3 month old. Now, she has my 4 year old (who’s in school part time 5 days a week) and has my 9 month old full time. Last year before the contract was renewed, she went from making $22.50/h to $26.50/h. Now she’s asking for $30/h. We said we could give her $27.50. She doesn’t want that. We give her 2 weeks paid vacation, 3 sick days and $200 for cell phone (since we ask for pictures/videos/update throughout the day). We don’t see a reason to give her another $4/h since her duties have stayed the same.

You're already massively overpaying. Shitcannister her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you mind sharing what her starting salary was, what her annual raises have been, and what she’s asking for? I asked for more than my bosses were expecting, but did so based on my performance and flexibility, not their increase me. There is a reason they make significantly more than me! We met in the middle and were all very happy. I wouldn’t dream of behaving the way you are describing.

Op here. In 2014, her salary has $20/h for my 3 month old. Now, she has my 4 year old (who’s in school part time 5 days a week) and has my 9 month old full time. Last year before the contract was renewed, she went from making $22.50/h to $26.50/h. Now she’s asking for $30/h. We said we could give her $27.50. She doesn’t want that. We give her 2 weeks paid vacation, 3 sick days and $200 for cell phone (since we ask for pictures/videos/update throughout the day). We don’t see a reason to give her another $4/h since her duties have stayed the same.

Your pay is already waaaay above market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello, everyone op here. Thank you all for your comments. I asked her again if she was willing to take $27.50/h and she said no. I then proceeded to tell her that we would not be renewing our contract and that today was her last day. I told her not to come back. I’m handing her her severance pay and reference letter. As much as I am sad to let her go, I know I can find someone who respects my family and I.
She was upset and said she would think about accepting $27.50, but I told her no that’s she’s already let go and we do not want her to continue working for us.

Good job OP. I would have done the same. You don't owe her a raise or a second or third chance. Imagine if we acted like this at our jobs...
The nannies on this board saying you should have given her another chance and that your child will be affected are self important and delusional. 4 year olds are resilient and adapt to change.

[Anonymous]

Fire her for looking at your financial papers. All employees make less than their employers — that’s how the world works. Threatening you that way and looking st financial papers is reason enough to find a new nanny. Most raises are cost of living raises

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fire her for looking at your financial papers. All employees make less than their employers — that’s how the world works. Threatening you that way and looking st financial papers is reason enough to find a new nanny. Most raises are cost of living raises

Not really. My nanny's HHI is way more than mine!