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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

By your logic, if you die tonight, your family could replace you if your husband chose to do so. Hope he wouldn't choose the nanny, but you never know these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.

+1

Of course you can pick and choose, as can your employers. Anyone can refuse to do their job and their employer can hire someone else. But to OP's question, in the real world filling a share spot like this is very acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.

+1

Of course you can pick and choose, as can your employers. Anyone can refuse to do their job and their employer can hire someone else. But to OP's question, in the real world filling a share spot like this is very acceptable.

In the nanny world-it is not.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount. [/quote]

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.[/quote]

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?[/quote]

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.[/quote]

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.[/quote]
+1[/quote]

Of course you can pick and choose, as can your employers. Anyone can refuse to do their job and their employer can hire someone else. But to OP's question, in the real world filling a share spot like this is very acceptable. [/quote]

In the nanny world-it is not.[/quote]
Exactly. If any parent tried to force me to suddenly take full responsibility for an undesirable child, they'd quickly find that nanny door swinging, yet again. How short-sighted of them.

That's what you call pennywise and pound foolish. So be it.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount. [/quote]

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.[/quote]

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?[/quote]

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.[/quote]

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.[/quote]
+1[/quote]

Of course you can pick and choose, as can your employers. Anyone can refuse to do their job and their employer can hire someone else. But to OP's question, in the real world filling a share spot like this is very acceptable. [/quote]

In the nanny world-it is not.[/quote]
Exactly. If any parent tried to force me to suddenly take full responsibility for an undesirable child, they'd quickly find that nanny door swinging, yet again. How short-sighted of them.

That's what you call pennywise and pound foolish. So be it.[/quote]

No. It is not.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you should look at what your contract says.

When we had a share five years ago, we had it structured as follows: nanny had two weeks of paid vacation. Apart from that, families were free to take any other time off, and the nanny received $15/hr (instead of our regular $19) when she cared for only one child instead of two. The family that remained under her care paid that rate.

Makes sense we are considering a share and this seems a good compromise between 3 parties each taking their own vacation without having to sync schedules.

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OP never came back. It was most likely a troll aimed to stir you all up so you look like fools. Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

By your logic, if you die tonight, your family could replace you if your husband chose to do so. Hope he wouldn't choose the nanny, but you never know these days.

Yes, if I die tonight, I fully expect my husband to remarry. If he dies, I fully expect to remarry within a reasonable time frame. It doesn't really matter whom he marries as long as she's nice to the children. They are the only irreplaceable thing. Do you expect your husband to keep a mournful watch over your grave after you die? I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

By your logic, if you die tonight, your family could replace you if your husband chose to do so. Hope he wouldn't choose the nanny, but you never know these days.

Yes, if I die tonight, I fully expect my husband to remarry. If he dies, I fully expect to remarry within a reasonable time frame. It doesn't really matter whom he marries as long as she's nice to the children. They are the only irreplaceable thing. Do you expect your husband to keep a mournful watch over your grave after you die? I don't.

Angry woman again. You should be enjoying your Sunday morning with the kids.

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Why compare to daycare? this is nanny share. Just ask the nanny if she want to do it. If she is a good nanny (lots of experiences) she can handle a new baby/kid without any problem.

If she wont do it you can pay her the two weeks and tell your friend your nanny is not flexible.

Easy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why compare to daycare? this is nanny share. Just ask the nanny if she want to do it. If she is a good nanny (lots of experiences) she can handle a new baby/kid without any problem.

If she wont do it you can pay her the two weeks and tell your friend your nanny is not flexible.

Easy.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

By your logic, if you die tonight, your family could replace you if your husband chose to do so. Hope he wouldn't choose the nanny, but you never know these days.

Yes, if I die tonight, I fully expect my husband to remarry. If he dies, I fully expect to remarry within a reasonable time frame. It doesn't really matter whom he marries as long as she's nice to the children. They are the only irreplaceable thing. Do you expect your husband to keep a mournful watch over your grave after you die? I don't.

Angry woman again. You should be enjoying your Sunday morning with the kids.

You're getting personal - good sign you're running out of arguments.

Yes, you're replaceable.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

By your logic, if you die tonight, your family could replace you if your husband chose to do so. Hope he wouldn't choose the nanny, but you never know these days.

Yes, if I die tonight, I fully expect my husband to remarry. If he dies, I fully expect to remarry within a reasonable time frame. It doesn't really matter whom he marries as long as she's nice to the children. They are the only irreplaceable thing. Do you expect your husband to keep a mournful watch over your grave after you die? I don't.

Angry woman again. You should be enjoying your Sunday morning with the kids.

You're getting personal - good sign you're running out of arguments.

Yes, you're replaceable.

No one here cares about you, but I imagine your family does. And yes, you may keep your personal opinion as you see fit. No one wants to take anything away from you. Nor can you control the opinions of other mothers. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you should look at what your contract says.

When we had a share five years ago, we had it structured as follows: nanny had two weeks of paid vacation. Apart from that, families were free to take any other time off, and the nanny received $15/hr (instead of our regular $19) when she cared for only one child instead of two. The family that remained under her care paid that rate.

Makes sense we are considering a share and this seems a good compromise between 3 parties each taking their own vacation without having to sync schedules.

This is what we do too, it works out well.