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Anonymous wrote:OP, you should look at what your contract says.

When we had a share five years ago, we had it structured as follows: nanny had two weeks of paid vacation. Apart from that, families were free to take any other time off, and the nanny received $15/hr (instead of our regular $19) when she cared for only one child instead of two. The family that remained under her care paid that rate.

I would never agree to that, as I can't imagine living on 19, let alone 15/hr.

And you didn't have to. She asked for opinions, I shared my experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

All depends on how low your expectations are. When I decided to move out of state, one of my former employers actually told me I was irreplaceable. She would therefore be providing the fulltime care of her child until preschool. They happen to be one of the wealthiest old money families. They can afford to do, and have anything they want. Due to professional success (and big money of course) their child has become someone commonly well-known to the general public.

People say all kinds of things. If they wanted to replace you, they could have. If you wanted to replace them, you could.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

All depends on how low your expectations are. When I decided to move out of state, one of my former employers actually told me I was irreplaceable. She would therefore be providing the fulltime care of her child until preschool. They happen to be one of the wealthiest old money families. They can afford to do, and have anything they want. Due to professional success (and big money of course) their child has become someone commonly well-known to the general public.

People say all kinds of things. If they wanted to replace you, they could have. If you wanted to replace them, you could.

Not everyone believes what you do. It's ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

All depends on how low your expectations are. When I decided to move out of state, one of my former employers actually told me I was irreplaceable. She would therefore be providing the fulltime care of her child until preschool. They happen to be one of the wealthiest old money families. They can afford to do, and have anything they want. Due to professional success (and big money of course) their child has become someone commonly well-known to the general public.

Your employer stepped in to provide full-time care of her child (also known as parenting). She has, in effect, replaced you - with herself - and the world kept on revolving. So you ARE replaceable. That's not an insult. Every one of us is replaceable.

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OP, you didn't mention what the other family thinks. Are they okay with a stranger's child coming into their home for two weeks?

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

I simply said what that mother told me. It's really none of my concern if you don't like that fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

I simply said what that mother told me. It's really none of my concern if you don't like that fact.

...that I was "irreplaceable." Her word, not mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Flexibility you say? In what job are you required to take on someone else's job? Even as a teacher I am ASKED if I'd like to sub for someone who needs to leave early, I am never compelled to. It is not appropriate to assume she should care for someone else's child. Her job is to care for your child and someone else's child. Period. I thought the daycare analogy made perfect sense.

I agree.

Sure, one is always asked, we don't live in times when live in a time/place when anyone can force anyone to do something, fortunately! But of any employee, be they a lawyer/dr or a nanny consistently refuses to show any flexibility and-or tries to nickle and some their employer for any little thing, they will not be long for the workplace! Nannies on dcum seem to think they are somehow an exception to the codes that govern normal workplaces.

One of the best parts of the nanny profession is that there will always be a high demand for nanny care.
There will always be an even higher demand for a GOOD nanny.
I don't want to be flexible. I want to do an excellent job caring for my charge and go home at the end of my shift.
The beautiful part of it is that I am so good at my job that I am in extremely high demand and don't have to agree to flexibility.
Comparing this to any other job is ridiculous!
The reason office workers are required to be flexible is because YOU ARE REPLACEABLE! It would also be more difficult for you to find an excellent job than it would for me. My employers could decide to get rid of me (I've never been fired or laid off in 15 years) and I could have 5 excellent jobs to choose from in a day. It would take you weeks (at minimum).
I am completely understanding when my employers are late due to traffic or a last minute meeting. It happens.
I would never allow them to switch my hours around or to be asked to care for some strange child when they go on vacation.
The reason you are expected to be flexible is because your boss could very easily replace you with a 23 year old who'd be willing to do your job for less money.
Enough with the office comparisons.

Agree. There's nothing unique about how you get done a stack of paperwork at your desk. Or is there?

This is hilarious! Nannies have a less replaceable skill set than people who have jobs which pay them enough to afford nannies?!

The reason you have enough money to afford a nanny IS because you have a nanny. You can go to your job everyday without worrying that your nanny won't show up or will quit with no notice. So, yes. A good nanny has an irreplaceable skill set. She allows you to go to work everyday and earn a living.

Look. No one is irreplaceable. If you are a valuable worker, you are still replaceable. If you have a heart attack this evening, the world will keep on turning. If I do, it still will. When you get older, you'll realize there's no such thing as irreplaceable workers.

I simply said what that mother told me. It's really none of my concern if you don't like that fact.

...that I was "irreplaceable." Her word, not mine.

That was sweet of her to say. But to be clear. She then REPLACED you,

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

Agree. No intelligent nanny would ever agree to such nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

Your stupidity is astounding. You can't force a nanny to be responsible for another child, unless she actually wants to. Some parents need to be more responsible with their finances. If you can't afford to travel, don't.

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Anonymous wrote:I am currently in a nanny share. We are going to be away for 2 weeks. I have a friend who needs temporary care while we are away. Is it fair to ask my nanny to take the friend's kid in place of mine and the friend can pay the nanny instead of me? She is working anyway bc our 2nd baby is still around and she doesn't ever object to watching additional kids.

It would just be nice to save a little money and nanny will still be making the same amount.

Yes, this is a typical arrangement. You are fine with this as long as the share family agrees. Another option, though you probably have to build it into the contract, is that the family using the share pays the "one family" rate while you are on vacation (if the nanny gets $10/hour/family, one family pays $15 when the other is gone). Still, I think it is better to find a family to fill your spot so the nanny does not loose income.

This is NOT a typical arrangement at all. Loose income?

This is what it means to be an hourly employee. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of that you like, such as overtime.

I absolutely do get to pick and choose when it comes to my job. If my employers don't like it, they can hire someone else.
I would never care for another family's child while my NF is on vacation. THAT IS NOT MY JOB.
It doesn't matter how many times out say it...it still doesn't make it true.