My employers are tracking me.

[Nanny4u]

Clearly you feel violated and if the shoe were on the other foot they would NOT give you any notice and let you go. So if you must quit, quit! Furthermore nanny cams are not illegal if they tell you about it, in your case they DIDN'T! In any business all cameras are out in the open because it is ILLEGAL to privately record anyone without their knowledge and or their consent. So you have every right to quit in my opinion, and don't feel guilty about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give them notice today that your last day will be friday. Give them a week to find a replacement. You are right, no parent should be concerned about their child's safety with a stranger they hired to take care of them. They should blindly know their child is ok as that is what you tell them. Wait till you are a parent and see how you feel. If you do not want to be accountable, find another career field. Parents have a right to know their kid is safe. Most employers utilize camera's in the work place. Their home is your workplace. They have the right to monitor what is going on.

I am a mother. Why would you assume I'm not? Did you read the thread? Everytime we go s ok me where I send pictures. They know where we are constantly. If you're concerned about your chuld every second of the day and want to hover, stay home and take care of them yourself. If you want to monitor me fine, but let me know.

You really need to find a new career field.

PP, she simply wants to know when she's being monitored. Her employers didn't notify her. I'm not sure why you think it's unreasonable for her employers to notify her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nanny cams are now getting hacked by predators, so nannies need to be concerned about THIER safety and security.

Full disclosure is legally mandatory in most places of work... for good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is their child, how would you feel if it were your child?

If they are that paranoid then one of them should quit and stay home and take care of their kid.

OP, what they did is sneaky and screams their lack of trust. I would confront them with this, give two weeks notice because of their action. They will deny and then let you go on the spot. You will be better off.

The family will be better off too. I wonder if OP is doing something sneaky to be concerned about gps tracking in their car

[Anonymous]

OP, I agree with you, and I would definitely quit. What does your contract say about termination for cause? If your contract doesn't make the terms defining termination for cause mutual, make sure your next one does. A parent is well within their right to fire a nanny for dishonesty, and the contract often specified that in such a case the nanny will be terminated without notice.

There is no reason in hell that a parent who breaks the trust and is dishonest should get 4 weeks of notice. Fire their asses and move on. Don't let the reference issue hold you hostage. Don't offer them as one, and explain to prospective employers why. If someone won't hire you because you expect to be treated with respect, they probably aren't someone you want to work for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to stay in the nannying field? Do you want a reference from this job, or something to cover whatever period of time you have worked for them? Is there any chance of their paths (your current employers) crossing w/ any possible future employers?

If the answer to any of those questions is even a maybe then I would advise being professional - give your contractually agreed upon notice and stick that period out. You do no long term service to yourself in burning the bridge or behaving in less than professional fashion.

I'm an MB, and I don't use cameras or tracking devices. I have hired two nannies, both of whom I had reason to trust when I hired them and both of whom proved me right in that. If you were to apply for a job with me and tell me the full truth of why you left your prior position it could go differently depending on how you handle your departure.

"I left my last position when my employers began installing cameras and tracking devices without telling me. I felt that our mutual trust had been betrayed, without me ever having given them cause for suspicion (as is attested to in my reviews and letter of reference.) So I decided to look for a position with a more comfortable fit and gave them X weeks of notice, as specified in my contract."

My reaction: "I can totally understand. That sounds like a rotten thing they did."

Versus:

Starting w/ the same details "I left because.... So I decided to find something with a better fit. I told them on Friday that it was my last day and I left."

My reaction: "You gave them zero notice and just told them that was your last day? What did your contract say?"

And you would be off my list for consideration. I'd consider your behavior unprofessional, and that I couldn't trust that you would honor the terms of any contract you signed. I'd also suspect that your former employers had reason to question you.

So I think you should think about the bigger picture here OP.

Would you fire a nanny who lied to you, or mislead you, or generally behave in unethical ways? Would you keep around a nanny for 4 weeks that you felt was untrustworthy? Does your contract give you an out on this by specifying termination for cause? Why is it then unprofessional for a nanny to quit without notice if her trust and her person has been violated? Finding out you've been filmed without your knowledge is a terrible feeling, and you don't know her history.

[Anonymous]

Quit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is their child, how would you feel if it were your child?

If they are that paranoid then one of them should quit and stay home and take care of their kid.

OP, what they did is sneaky and screams their lack of trust. I would confront them with this, give two weeks notice because of their action. They will deny and then let you go on the spot. You will be better off.

The family will be better off too. I wonder if OP is doing something sneaky to be concerned about gps tracking in their car

If I was doing something sneaky they would have fired me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to stay in the nannying field? Do you want a reference from this job, or something to cover whatever period of time you have worked for them? Is there any chance of their paths (your current employers) crossing w/ any possible future employers?

If the answer to any of those questions is even a maybe then I would advise being professional - give your contractually agreed upon notice and stick that period out. You do no long term service to yourself in burning the bridge or behaving in less than professional fashion.

I'm an MB, and I don't use cameras or tracking devices. I have hired two nannies, both of whom I had reason to trust when I hired them and both of whom proved me right in that. If you were to apply for a job with me and tell me the full truth of why you left your prior position it could go differently depending on how you handle your departure.

"I left my last position when my employers began installing cameras and tracking devices without telling me. I felt that our mutual trust had been betrayed, without me ever having given them cause for suspicion (as is attested to in my reviews and letter of reference.) So I decided to look for a position with a more comfortable fit and gave them X weeks of notice, as specified in my contract."

My reaction: "I can totally understand. That sounds like a rotten thing they did."

Versus:

Starting w/ the same details "I left because.... So I decided to find something with a better fit. I told them on Friday that it was my last day and I left."

My reaction: "You gave them zero notice and just told them that was your last day? What did your contract say?"

And you would be off my list for consideration. I'd consider your behavior unprofessional, and that I couldn't trust that you would honor the terms of any contract you signed. I'd also suspect that your former employers had reason to question you.

So I think you should think about the bigger picture here OP.

Would you fire a nanny who lied to you, or mislead you, or generally behave in unethical ways? Would you keep around a nanny for 4 weeks that you felt was untrustworthy? Does your contract give you an out on this by specifying termination for cause? Why is it then unprofessional for a nanny to quit without notice if her trust and her person has been violated? Finding out you've been filmed without your knowledge is a terrible feeling, and you don't know her history.

Her "person" has not been violated and she was aware of some level of monitoring already. So there is an escalation in monitoring, and certainly I can understand a feeling of trust being violated. No one wants to feel questioned or watched.

But I stand by my advice. It does the nanny more good in the long run to be able to say she behaved with utmost professionalism, than to indulge her annoyance by quitting without notice. She is not being asked to do anything illegal or unethical and she is not being harmed. The level of scrutiny of her in the job is increasing to what is unpleasant for her. So she is well within her rights to decide this is no longer a job she wants. She can choose how she wishes to leave and I would suggest that being professional is smarter (and much more mature) than being emotional and vengeful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to stay in the nannying field? Do you want a reference from this job, or something to cover whatever period of time you have worked for them? Is there any chance of their paths (your current employers) crossing w/ any possible future employers?

If the answer to any of those questions is even a maybe then I would advise being professional - give your contractually agreed upon notice and stick that period out. You do no long term service to yourself in burning the bridge or behaving in less than professional fashion.

I'm an MB, and I don't use cameras or tracking devices. I have hired two nannies, both of whom I had reason to trust when I hired them and both of whom proved me right in that. If you were to apply for a job with me and tell me the full truth of why you left your prior position it could go differently depending on how you handle your departure.

"I left my last position when my employers began installing cameras and tracking devices without telling me. I felt that our mutual trust had been betrayed, without me ever having given them cause for suspicion (as is attested to in my reviews and letter of reference.) So I decided to look for a position with a more comfortable fit and gave them X weeks of notice, as specified in my contract."

My reaction: "I can totally understand. That sounds like a rotten thing they did."

Versus:

Starting w/ the same details "I left because.... So I decided to find something with a better fit. I told them on Friday that it was my last day and I left."

My reaction: "You gave them zero notice and just told them that was your last day? What did your contract say?"

And you would be off my list for consideration. I'd consider your behavior unprofessional, and that I couldn't trust that you would honor the terms of any contract you signed. I'd also suspect that your former employers had reason to question you.

So I think you should think about the bigger picture here OP.

Would you fire a nanny who lied to you, or mislead you, or generally behave in unethical ways? Would you keep around a nanny for 4 weeks that you felt was untrustworthy? Does your contract give you an out on this by specifying termination for cause? Why is it then unprofessional for a nanny to quit without notice if her trust and her person has been violated? Finding out you've been filmed without your knowledge is a terrible feeling, and you don't know her history.

Her "person" has not been violated and she was aware of some level of monitoring already. So there is an escalation in monitoring, and certainly I can understand a feeling of trust being violated. No one wants to feel questioned or watched.

But I stand by my advice. It does the nanny more good in the long run to be able to say she behaved with utmost professionalism, than to indulge her annoyance by quitting without notice. She is not being asked to do anything illegal or unethical and she is not being harmed. The level of scrutiny of her in the job is increasing to what is unpleasant for her. So she is well within her rights to decide this is no longer a job she wants. She can choose how she wishes to leave and I would suggest that being professional is smarter (and much more mature) than being emotional and vengeful.

So if your employer had cameras in the hall, but then unbeknownst to you installed one in your private office, you wouldn't quit same day? Professionalism is already dead in this situation.

[Anonymous]

Oh for heaven's sake.

We all have choices in life.

If you want to get on your high horse and quit in a huff, go for it. Enjoy the moment.

You will have a wonderfully dramatic story. Probably one of many you will accumulate through life.

I wouldn't hire you if I got a sense of this kind of behavior, but you wouldn't want to work for me anyway if you're smart.

Good luck to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to stay in the nannying field? Do you want a reference from this job, or something to cover whatever period of time you have worked for them? Is there any chance of their paths (your current employers) crossing w/ any possible future employers?

If the answer to any of those questions is even a maybe then I would advise being professional - give your contractually agreed upon notice and stick that period out. You do no long term service to yourself in burning the bridge or behaving in less than professional fashion.

I'm an MB, and I don't use cameras or tracking devices. I have hired two nannies, both of whom I had reason to trust when I hired them and both of whom proved me right in that. If you were to apply for a job with me and tell me the full truth of why you left your prior position it could go differently depending on how you handle your departure.

"I left my last position when my employers began installing cameras and tracking devices without telling me. I felt that our mutual trust had been betrayed, without me ever having given them cause for suspicion (as is attested to in my reviews and letter of reference.) So I decided to look for a position with a more comfortable fit and gave them X weeks of notice, as specified in my contract."

My reaction: "I can totally understand. That sounds like a rotten thing they did."

Versus:

Starting w/ the same details "I left because.... So I decided to find something with a better fit. I told them on Friday that it was my last day and I left."

My reaction: "You gave them zero notice and just told them that was your last day? What did your contract say?"

And you would be off my list for consideration. I'd consider your behavior unprofessional, and that I couldn't trust that you would honor the terms of any contract you signed. I'd also suspect that your former employers had reason to question you.

So I think you should think about the bigger picture here OP.

Would you fire a nanny who lied to you, or mislead you, or generally behave in unethical ways? Would you keep around a nanny for 4 weeks that you felt was untrustworthy? Does your contract give you an out on this by specifying termination for cause? Why is it then unprofessional for a nanny to quit without notice if her trust and her person has been violated? Finding out you've been filmed without your knowledge is a terrible feeling, and you don't know her history.

Her "person" has not been violated and she was aware of some level of monitoring already. So there is an escalation in monitoring, and certainly I can understand a feeling of trust being violated. No one wants to feel questioned or watched.

But I stand by my advice. It does the nanny more good in the long run to be able to say she behaved with utmost professionalism, than to indulge her annoyance by quitting without notice. She is not being asked to do anything illegal or unethical and she is not being harmed. The level of scrutiny of her in the job is increasing to what is unpleasant for her. So she is well within her rights to decide this is no longer a job she wants. She can choose how she wishes to leave and I would suggest that being professional is smarter (and much more mature) than being emotional and vengeful.

Let say you have web cams installed in your house for security and to use as nanny cams. Imagine they were hacked and you realized someone had been watching your family and your children going about private business. Are you saying you wouldn't feel violated? To someone with certain experiences, this can and DOES feel like a physical violation of their body. If I found hidden cameras, I would quit on the spot. And I don't mean at the end of the day, I mean you will come home this moment and face me. And I would be contractually justified in doing so. If you'd fire me for lying to you, you better believe that term is mutual.

[Anonymous]

I wasn't OP I am a MB but I just can't understand expecting this nanny not to react by quitting without notice. These parents have it coming.

[Anonymous]

Drama.

This is all unnecessary drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to stay in the nannying field? Do you want a reference from this job, or something to cover whatever period of time you have worked for them? Is there any chance of their paths (your current employers) crossing w/ any possible future employers?

If the answer to any of those questions is even a maybe then I would advise being professional - give your contractually agreed upon notice and stick that period out. You do no long term service to yourself in burning the bridge or behaving in less than professional fashion.

I'm an MB, and I don't use cameras or tracking devices. I have hired two nannies, both of whom I had reason to trust when I hired them and both of whom proved me right in that. If you were to apply for a job with me and tell me the full truth of why you left your prior position it could go differently depending on how you handle your departure.

"I left my last position when my employers began installing cameras and tracking devices without telling me. I felt that our mutual trust had been betrayed, without me ever having given them cause for suspicion (as is attested to in my reviews and letter of reference.) So I decided to look for a position with a more comfortable fit and gave them X weeks of notice, as specified in my contract."

My reaction: "I can totally understand. That sounds like a rotten thing they did."

Versus:

Starting w/ the same details "I left because.... So I decided to find something with a better fit. I told them on Friday that it was my last day and I left."

My reaction: "You gave them zero notice and just told them that was your last day? What did your contract say?"

And you would be off my list for consideration. I'd consider your behavior unprofessional, and that I couldn't trust that you would honor the terms of any contract you signed. I'd also suspect that your former employers had reason to question you.

So I think you should think about the bigger picture here OP.

Would you fire a nanny who lied to you, or mislead you, or generally behave in unethical ways? Would you keep around a nanny for 4 weeks that you felt was untrustworthy? Does your contract give you an out on this by specifying termination for cause? Why is it then unprofessional for a nanny to quit without notice if her trust and her person has been violated? Finding out you've been filmed without your knowledge is a terrible feeling, and you don't know her history.

Her "person" has not been violated and she was aware of some level of monitoring already. So there is an escalation in monitoring, and certainly I can understand a feeling of trust being violated. No one wants to feel questioned or watched.

But I stand by my advice. It does the nanny more good in the long run to be able to say she behaved with utmost professionalism, than to indulge her annoyance by quitting without notice. She is not being asked to do anything illegal or unethical and she is not being harmed. The level of scrutiny of her in the job is increasing to what is unpleasant for her. So she is well within her rights to decide this is no longer a job she wants. She can choose how she wishes to leave and I would suggest that being professional is smarter (and much more mature) than being emotional and vengeful.

Let say you have web cams installed in your house for security and to use as nanny cams. Imagine they were hacked and you realized someone had been watching your family and your children going about private business. Are you saying you wouldn't feel violated? To someone with certain experiences, this can and DOES feel like a physical violation of their body. If I found hidden cameras, I would quit on the spot. And I don't mean at the end of the day, I mean you will come home this moment and face me. And I would be contractually justified in doing so. If you'd fire me for lying to you, you better believe that term is mutual.

I did this. I live-in, and I found a camera which pointed directly in my bathroom door. I don't think it's my employer's business when I go in my private bathroom, whether I close the door or not, nor how long I spend in there. When I called my boss to have him come home and retrieve his children so that I could pack and leave, he told me that I wasn't allowed to do so, and he wouldn't be home until 3 hours after shift end. At that point, I had the kids play in the hall outside my bedroom while I packed, I loaded kids and luggage in the nanny car. I dropped the children and keys off with his secretary and had a cab waiting with my luggage. I want nanny cams, to protect myself and the parents in case there are any questions (there never are, but I'm paranoid), but once trust is broken, I'm gone, and that's exactly what my contract reflects.