Flat night rate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

I'm 16:13 and that's exactly my point. You can't compare apples to oranges. A resident/intern is not the same as a nanny. I was responding to a PP who was comparing them. You can't say nurses and doctors are paid to sleep at the hospital and therefore nannies should be, but when someone says doctors don't actually sleep THEN you say you can't compare. Pick one. For the record, I never said a nanny shouldn't be paid for an overnight so maybe you should figure out who is on your side BEFORE you start getting insulting and calling them names. As a nanny you should really know that if you are going to be teaching children the right way to behave.

Thank God, I am not a nanny and thank God, you are not my physician. That should have been horse's patoot, not patriot. L

[Anonymous]

Point is, people looking for a "flat night rate" like OP is, are looking for a nanny to take advantage of.

You can always find a doormat,
but she's no nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

I'm an MB and our nanny has done overnights for us several times. Our arrangement is much like this - her regular salary for the week, overtime for any waking/working hours beyond her regularly contracted hours, and a flat rate for the overnight. Our kids sleep 10 hour stretches unless sick, so that works. If she were up during the night we would pay her overtime for that time as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

I'm an MB and our nanny has done overnights for us several times. Our arrangement is much like this - her regular salary for the week, overtime for any waking/working hours beyond her regularly contracted hours, and a flat rate for the overnight. Our kids sleep 10 hour stretches unless sick, so that works. If she were up during the night we would pay her overtime for that time as well.

That assumes she can get a decent night's sleep, while working on-call. I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

I'm 16:13 and that's exactly my point. You can't compare apples to oranges. A resident/intern is not the same as a nanny. I was responding to a PP who was comparing them. You can't say nurses and doctors are paid to sleep at the hospital and therefore nannies should be, but when someone says doctors don't actually sleep THEN you say you can't compare. Pick one. For the record, I never said a nanny shouldn't be paid for an overnight so maybe you should figure out who is on your side BEFORE you start getting insulting and calling them names. As a nanny you should really know that if you are going to be teaching children the right way to behave.

Thank God, I am not a nanny and thank God, you are not my physician. That should have been horse's patoot, not patriot. L

I think you just outed yourself as a troll since you are clearly not an employer either. I can't imagine why you would want to read a nanny forum then, your life must be so sad and boring if this is what you do with your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 7 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

Let's say you did five 24 hr days while they're gone. What's your gross come out to?

I'm the PP who works with this arrangement. If my employers are gone Monday (8 AM when I usually start on Mondays) - Saturday (8AM) I would make $1752.50 gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

I'm an MB and our nanny has done overnights for us several times. Our arrangement is much like this - her regular salary for the week, overtime for any waking/working hours beyond her regularly contracted hours, and a flat rate for the overnight. Our kids sleep 10 hour stretches unless sick, so that works. If she were up during the night we would pay her overtime for that time as well.

That assumes she can get a decent night's sleep, while working on-call. I don't.

That's fine. Our nanny can, and does, get a great night's sleep when she stays with our kids. If there were an occasion when she didn't, as a result of one of the kids being up, we would compensate her accordingly.

She's happy w/ the arrangement and so are we. Everyone is free to negotiate whatever makes sense for them and their particular circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

I'm 16:13 and that's exactly my point. You can't compare apples to oranges. A resident/intern is not the same as a nanny. I was responding to a PP who was comparing them. You can't say nurses and doctors are paid to sleep at the hospital and therefore nannies should be, but when someone says doctors don't actually sleep THEN you say you can't compare. Pick one. For the record, I never said a nanny shouldn't be paid for an overnight so maybe you should figure out who is on your side BEFORE you start getting insulting and calling them names. As a nanny you should really know that if you are going to be teaching children the right way to behave.

Thank God, I am not a nanny and thank God, you are not my physician. That should have been horse's patoot, not patriot. L

[Anonymous]

This is the way I see it.

If a nanny is working an overnight, but has the luxury of being able to sleep on the job, then she is to be paid a flat rate by the family. (This is if the child is older and is expected to sleep uninterrupted through the whole night.)

If the nanny is working an overnight, but is not allowed to sleep during her shift, say she is to tend to a newborn, etc., then I say she gets paid her regular hourly rate.

It all depends on whether or not she is allowed to sleep or not during her shift.

What is tricky is when you have a situation where the nanny is allowed to sleep, yet you have a child who wakes up during the night for different reasons. I.e., needs a bottle/drink, needs to use the potty, teething, misses parents, not sleep-trained, etc.

In these cases, the nanny should get paid her hourly rate as well since she is not getting a good night's rest and cannot depend on being rested enough for the next day to go to another job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the age of your child, OP, and whether they are able to sleep through the night.

If your child is likely to wake several times during the night, you should pay the daily hourly rate (including OT).

If your child is old enough to sleep through the night, you can propose a flat rate of $50-$100/night.

If your child usually sleeps through the night, but wakes, you should pay the flat rate and the hourly rate the nanny has to attend your child when you child wakes.

It makes sense. Thank you !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

This plan is also reasonable and very clear. It's really helpful. Thanks !

[Anonymous]

I am a nanny who occasionally stays overnight with my charges. They are old enough that they sleep through the night and it's rare they wake up for any reason. I'm paid very similarly to the previous poster who gave her rate breakdown. The only difference is my overtime goes until 11:00 (which is when I usually to to bed) and my flat overnight fee is $75. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of at all. Some nannies get their knickers in knots over this and it's so silly. Why should anyone else care what I have worked out with my employer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny who occasionally stays overnight with my charges. They are old enough that they sleep through the night and it's rare they wake up for any reason. I'm paid very similarly to the previous poster who gave her rate breakdown. The only difference is my overtime goes until 11:00 (which is when I usually to to bed) and my flat overnight fee is $75. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of at all. Some nannies get their knickers in knots over this and it's so silly. Why should anyone else care what I have worked out with my employer?

No one cares if everything is fair, but you're only one person. Many more nannies are being taken advantage of. Everyday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny who occasionally stays overnight with my charges. They are old enough that they sleep through the night and it's rare they wake up for any reason. I'm paid very similarly to the previous poster who gave her rate breakdown. The only difference is my overtime goes until 11:00 (which is when I usually to to bed) and my flat overnight fee is $75. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of at all. Some nannies get their knickers in knots over this and it's so silly. Why should anyone else care what I have worked out with my employer?

No one cares if everything is fair, but you're only one person. Many more nannies are being taken advantage of. Everyday.

It's not being taken advantage of. It's doing a different job, and your only being asked and you are free to turn it down. You have to admit if your full time 40 hour a week job was to just sleep at someone else house with their kids while they are sleeping it would be a pretty sweet gig. You are a nanny during the day, you can charge a nanny rate, but for sleeping, if you wish to provide this service, you can not charge a nanny rate (well you can charge whatever you want, but you can not expect people will hire you at that rate). If you want extra money for sleeping and wish to be helpful to the family then do so and accept that rate of pay for that service. Just because you are a nanny does not entitle you to $20 an hour in whatever you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny who occasionally stays overnight with my charges. They are old enough that they sleep through the night and it's rare they wake up for any reason. I'm paid very similarly to the previous poster who gave her rate breakdown. The only difference is my overtime goes until 11:00 (which is when I usually to to bed) and my flat overnight fee is $75. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of at all. Some nannies get their knickers in knots over this and it's so silly. Why should anyone else care what I have worked out with my employer?

No one cares if everything is fair, but you're only one person. Many more nannies are being taken advantage of. Everyday.

It's not being taken advantage of. It's doing a different job, and your only being asked and you are free to turn it down. You have to admit if your full time 40 hour a week job was to just sleep at someone else house with their kids while they are sleeping it would be a pretty sweet gig. You are a nanny during the day, you can charge a nanny rate, but for sleeping, if you wish to provide this service, you can not charge a nanny rate (well you can charge whatever you want, but you can not expect people will hire you at that rate). If you want extra money for sleeping and wish to be helpful to the family then do so and accept that rate of pay for that service. Just because you are a nanny does not entitle you to $20 an hour in whatever you do.

Correction:
EVERYONE in this country is entitled to earn the best that they are ABLE to earn.

Who do you think you are, to try to cap what a nanny can earn???