Flat night rate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

If you aren't interested then don't worry yourself. I personally don't mind flat rate. I would GLADLY accept $75 to sleep at someone else's house, that is free money. If I have to get up and do a minor amount of work to earn that money then so be it.... If you are too stuck up to accept such a position then your opinion is not required in this thread.

I'm sorry but nannies will never be respected when we are happy for crumbs. People like you make me sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

+1 Nannies need to say no to this nonsense. My sister is a nurse and on nights she has to sleep in the hospital she is paid full wages - no one discounts her salary because she is sleeping. She is on call if there is an emergency - just like any nanny.

This is off topic but I think if a nurse works nights ideally she sleeps in the day time as a result. She doesn't sleep at the hospital. You wouldn't sleep at work of you had regular hours.

This is wrong. Some nurses and doctors do sleep at the hospital while they're on-call, just like firemen, nannies and baby nurses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

+1 Nannies need to say no to this nonsense. My sister is a nurse and on nights she has to sleep in the hospital she is paid full wages - no one discounts her salary because she is sleeping. She is on call if there is an emergency - just like any nanny.

This is off topic but I think if a nurse works nights ideally she sleeps in the day time as a result. She doesn't sleep at the hospital. You wouldn't sleep at work of you had regular hours.

Nope, my sister has to sleep in the hospital once or twice a month and works 24 hours. So do the residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry the nannies are being so rude. It sounds like you are unfamiliar with overnight rates.

I assume you did not address overnights in your contract since you are asking. Therefore, you need to make this a discussion just like you would have during the initial contract negotiations. We can tell you what range is reasonable but ultimately, your nanny deserves to be approached and have her opinion heard.

My MB pays me a flat rate of $125. That is less then the cost of me working from 6pm to 8am at an hourly rate, even before you factor in the overtime. I don't have a lot of experience and this is my first time doing overnights. Your nanny may have more experience and so she may be expecting what seems to be the norm - hourly pay including overtime.

I would be willing to consider $125.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

If you aren't interested then don't worry yourself. I personally don't mind flat rate. I would GLADLY accept $75 to sleep at someone else's house, that is free money. If I have to get up and do a minor amount of work to earn that money then so be it.... If you are too stuck up to accept such a position then your opinion is not required in this thread.

I'm sorry but nannies will never be respected when we are happy for crumbs. People like you make me sad.

Being paid to sleep is hardly crumbs. You other nannies complain when the works too hard and complain when the works too easy. I get the feeling some of you just want to complain no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

If you aren't interested then don't worry yourself. I personally don't mind flat rate. I would GLADLY accept $75 to sleep at someone else's house, that is free money. If I have to get up and do a minor amount of work to earn that money then so be it.... If you are too stuck up to accept such a position then your opinion is not required in this thread.

I'm sorry but nannies will never be respected when we are happy for crumbs. People like you make me sad.

Being paid to sleep is hardly crumbs. You other nannies complain when the works too hard and complain when the works too easy. I get the feeling some of you just want to complain no matter what.

I get the feeling you're disgruntled today.

[Anonymous]

As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny who does overnights fairly frequently this is the plan that my employers and I have worked out. I'm am paid my usual hourly rate during the day. Starting at the time I would usually be off (4 PM) they pay overtime until 1 hour after the children's bedtime. After that I charge a $100 flat-rate for the overnight portion, even if the kiddos wake up at some point. In the morning I make overtime for the extra hour before the kids wake up, then I'm back to my usual hourly rate.

So it looks something like this:

8 AM - 4 PM: I make $15 (my hourly rate)

4 PM - 9 PM: I make $22.50 (my overtime rate)

9 PM - 6 AM: Flat rate of $100

7 AM - 8 AM: Overtime rate of $22.50

8 AM - 4 PM: Hourly rate $15

ETC

Let's say you did five 24 hr days while they're gone. What's your gross come out to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

+1 Nannies need to say no to this nonsense. My sister is a nurse and on nights she has to sleep in the hospital she is paid full wages - no one discounts her salary because she is sleeping. She is on call if there is an emergency - just like any nanny.

This is off topic but I think if a nurse works nights ideally she sleeps in the day time as a result. She doesn't sleep at the hospital. You wouldn't sleep at work of you had regular hours.

Nope, my sister has to sleep in the hospital once or twice a month and works 24 hours. So do the residents.

Yes, and as a physician who has had to "sleep" in the hospital I have never been paid extra for it. And I put sleep in quotes because if I was on call and sleeping at the hospital I rarely actually slept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

If you aren't interested then don't worry yourself. I personally don't mind flat rate. I would GLADLY accept $75 to sleep at someone else's house, that is free money. If I have to get up and do a minor amount of work to earn that money then so be it.... If you are too stuck up to accept such a position then your opinion is not required in this thread.

I'm sorry but nannies will never be respected when we are happy for crumbs. People like you make me sad.

Being paid to sleep is hardly crumbs. You other nannies complain when the works too hard and complain when the works too easy. I get the feeling some of you just want to complain no matter what.

You are not being paid to sleep, Nanny, you are being paid to stay with the child and be responsible for his welfare during the night. That is called WORKING. I actually never complain about my job - I'm a good nanny who commands both respect and a good salary for every minute that I am working.

You sound like a teenage babysitter thrilled for a couple dollars on a dateless Saturday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the nanny cannot leave - she is working. When you work you get your hourly wage plus overtime.

This crap with the "overnight wage" has to stop! I am not in my own bed, I am not taking care of my own family and I cannot leave your child - how is that NOT WORKING?

+1 Nannies need to say no to this nonsense. My sister is a nurse and on nights she has to sleep in the hospital she is paid full wages - no one discounts her salary because she is sleeping. She is on call if there is an emergency - just like any nanny.

This is off topic but I think if a nurse works nights ideally she sleeps in the day time as a result. She doesn't sleep at the hospital. You wouldn't sleep at work of you had regular hours.

Nope, my sister has to sleep in the hospital once or twice a month and works 24 hours. So do the residents.

Yes, and as a physician who has had to "sleep" in the hospital I have never been paid extra for it. And I put sleep in quotes because if I was on call and sleeping at the hospital I rarely actually slept.

No one is asking to be paid extra for sleeping, Dr.! The point is you are being paid when you have to be at the hospital whether you are sleeping or not.

[Anonymous]

16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

What's a horse's patriot,pp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:13, stop being obtuse. There is no way to compare nannies staying overnight and medical interns/residents. You, ultimately, will be making a high 5 figure income. Also, nannies are hourly employees and interns , residents are salaried. You really are a horse's patriot.

I'm 16:13 and that's exactly my point. You can't compare apples to oranges. A resident/intern is not the same as a nanny. I was responding to a PP who was comparing them. You can't say nurses and doctors are paid to sleep at the hospital and therefore nannies should be, but when someone says doctors don't actually sleep THEN you say you can't compare. Pick one. For the record, I never said a nanny shouldn't be paid for an overnight so maybe you should figure out who is on your side BEFORE you start getting insulting and calling them names. As a nanny you should really know that if you are going to be teaching children the right way to behave.

[Anonymous]

I think someone needs to look up the actual meaning of the word "obtuse". PP was not being obtuse - you may not agree with her point but she was not being obtuse at all.