Anonymous wrote:Keep is such a scam and most people do uktinatelybgain. Of course you'll initially lose weight cutting out a major food group, most people will naturally be eating less at first while they adjust to figuring out a diet plan without carbs. Then the body adapts and you're sustaining your life on avocados, bacon, cheese, Mayo, fatty meats, and almost no fruits, veggies, whole grains, etc. No shit that drinking butter and oil will eventually cause gain.

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Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

Anonymous wrote:My obese cousin is doing the Keto diet. She stuck with keto-friendly foods over various family events we attended last week (to her credit), but still ate massive amounts of food. I really hope this works for her but I don't see how she's going to be able to lose weight without reducing the overall amount of food she's consuming, especially if it's high-fat.

I'm also curious as to whether this diet is recommended for people who have a significant family history of heart disease. Is the idea to consume lots of healthy fats while limiting or avoiding saturated fat? My cousin couldn't explain this when I asked her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

So, why are all those Marvel actors always talking about eating meat(not necessarily fat) and broccoli to gain muscle and yes, they also work out a ton? I think they eat very few carbs?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

So, why are all those Marvel actors always talking about eating meat(not necessarily fat) and broccoli to gain muscle and yes, they also work out a ton? I think they eat very few carbs?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

So, why are all those Marvel actors always talking about eating meat(not necessarily fat) and broccoli to gain muscle and yes, they also work out a ton? I think they eat very few carbs?

They definitely eat carbs; you can google what they ate to prepare for the roles and there's oatmeal, sweet potatoes, rice, etc. They talk about eating meat because saying "I ate 10 bazillion chickens!" sounds cooler than "I ate 50 pounds of brown rice!". They also talk about meat/veggies because they like to complain about how boring their diet is, and not much is more boring than plain chicken breast and broccoli.

I worked in the fitness industry and overall, people on low carb diets have more trouble keeping on muscle than those who eat a healthy amount of carbs. It doesn't mean that it can't be done, it is just more difficult. I've seen people who looked pretty good while low-carb end up looking and performing even better once they added carbs back in, but rarely saw the reverse. People often point to body builders who do eat low carb at certain points pre-contest, but that has more to do with manipulating glycogen stores and changing the appearance of muscle, rather than losing fat/gaining muscle. Body builders are also often juiced up to prevent muscle loss and they spend months building their muscles up so some loss isn't as bad. It's not a diet that is applicable or sustainable for everyone else.

I think keto is very hit-or-miss. Some people do great, but I think that has more to with omitting entire foods makes it easier to not overeat. If you can't eat cookies to begin with, you're not going to try to eat just 1 and end up eating the entire sleeve, every night of the week. Other people do poorly because they use it as an excuse to eat very high calorie foods like bacon, put butter on everything, etc.

Anonymous wrote:DH is throwing himself into this full bore. I think he's nuts. He's restricting himself to meat and water only. He has always been a disordered eater and I see this latest move as further evidence of his disordered eating but he thinks he's finally straightening himself out. He's going to go through carb withdrawal (it's a real thing for him) and be a total @ss. He's going to be obsessive, lecture me, and he is going to see some gains. Then he's going to fall off the wagon (bc meat and water only???) He'll gain at all back plus 15 bonus pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

So, why are all those Marvel actors always talking about eating meat(not necessarily fat) and broccoli to gain muscle and yes, they also work out a ton? I think they eat very few carbs?

They definitely eat carbs; you can google what they ate to prepare for the roles and there's oatmeal, sweet potatoes, rice, etc. They talk about eating meat because saying "I ate 10 bazillion chickens!" sounds cooler than "I ate 50 pounds of brown rice!". They also talk about meat/veggies because they like to complain about how boring their diet is, and not much is more boring than plain chicken breast and broccoli.

I worked in the fitness industry and overall, people on low carb diets have more trouble keeping on muscle than those who eat a healthy amount of carbs. It doesn't mean that it can't be done, it is just more difficult. I've seen people who looked pretty good while low-carb end up looking and performing even better once they added carbs back in, but rarely saw the reverse. People often point to body builders who do eat low carb at certain points pre-contest, but that has more to do with manipulating glycogen stores and changing the appearance of muscle, rather than losing fat/gaining muscle. Body builders are also often juiced up to prevent muscle loss and they spend months building their muscles up so some loss isn't as bad. It's not a diet that is applicable or sustainable for everyone else.

I think keto is very hit-or-miss. Some people do great, but I think that has more to with omitting entire foods makes it easier to not overeat. If you can't eat cookies to begin with, you're not going to try to eat just 1 and end up eating the entire sleeve, every night of the week. Other people do poorly because they use it as an excuse to eat very high calorie foods like bacon, put butter on everything, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Screw keto!

It was suggested to me by my doctor to lose 60lbs that I put on while on a medication.

It was never explained to me that being in ketosis means you lose muscle mass. I should have researched more on my own, I suppose.

Anyway. I had awesome muscular legs from years of soccer (played through college) that turned to total flab while on a keto diet. I saw the same change in my arms as well. Yes, I lost the weight but the muscular arms and legs that I had while carrying that extra weight went too.

I’m skinny and jiggly now. Hate it.

I do not know what happened to you.

Ketosis by definition is about burning fat. Did you exercise on your diet?

NP. Keto is well known to cause muscle loss. It is very difficult to gain muscle on a keto diet, hard to keep muscle, and easy to lose it.

So, why are all those Marvel actors always talking about eating meat(not necessarily fat) and broccoli to gain muscle and yes, they also work out a ton? I think they eat very few carbs?

They definitely eat carbs; you can google what they ate to prepare for the roles and there's oatmeal, sweet potatoes, rice, etc. They talk about eating meat because saying "I ate 10 bazillion chickens!" sounds cooler than "I ate 50 pounds of brown rice!". They also talk about meat/veggies because they like to complain about how boring their diet is, and not much is more boring than plain chicken breast and broccoli.

I worked in the fitness industry and overall, people on low carb diets have more trouble keeping on muscle than those who eat a healthy amount of carbs. It doesn't mean that it can't be done, it is just more difficult. I've seen people who looked pretty good while low-carb end up looking and performing even better once they added carbs back in, but rarely saw the reverse. People often point to body builders who do eat low carb at certain points pre-contest, but that has more to do with manipulating glycogen stores and changing the appearance of muscle, rather than losing fat/gaining muscle. Body builders are also often juiced up to prevent muscle loss and they spend months building their muscles up so some loss isn't as bad. It's not a diet that is applicable or sustainable for everyone else.

I think keto is very hit-or-miss. Some people do great, but I think that has more to with omitting entire foods makes it easier to not overeat. If you can't eat cookies to begin with, you're not going to try to eat just 1 and end up eating the entire sleeve, every night of the week. Other people do poorly because they use it as an excuse to eat very high calorie foods like bacon, put butter on everything, etc.

Thanks for this explanation. That is what was weird to me, they talk about broccoli and chicken, but I like broccoli and chicken a lot! I am certainly not ever eating any coconut oil! And I don't care who says it is healthy, it can't be. Was even told by cardiologist not to touch that crap, yet I watched a documentary about keto, that was insisting young kids with autism should eat coconut oil. I'd rather eat lard!