ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

You still have t figured out how to cut and paste the links yet. Just makes you look dumb and makes iit even more obvious that you're incorrectly hacking up a mathematically correct matrix to try and make it seem like older players can play down.

[Anonymous]

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/d...obilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enr...-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/de...6-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors or Sophomores. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3rd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

They AREN'T OLDER. They are in the same age group. You know you're wrong when you're completely OK with a kid if they are in the same grade.

[Anonymous]

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.columbusforcesoccer.com/transition-to-grade-year

) August Birthdays & Academic Grade Alignment
Our transition to the Academic Grade Year system is designed to better align a player’s soccer experience with their school experience. One common question involves players born in August, especially those whose birthdays fall after the August 1st national cutoff.

For example, a player born on August 15th would technically fall into the younger grade-year bracket under the national rule. However, that same player may already be in the higher academic grade at school and want to play alongside their classmates.

At Columbus Force SC, our priority is social cohesion and developmental fit. While the August 1st cutoff is used nationally to align the majority of players within a grade, we recognize that school district enrollment dates vary. This means some players may be “young” for their academic grade based on their birth date alone.

Our Approach
Because our Technical Leadership believes that development always comes first, these situations will be handled on a case-by-case basis. If a player is academically in a higher grade than their birth date indicates, the club will work to place them in their true academic grade year (playing up). Our goal is to ensure every player is in the best “classroom” for their growth. If that means playing with their actual school classmates to support social development and create a smoother path to high school soccer, the club supports that alignment

More case by case no forced playing up. Bit of a theme.

"All decisions regarding flexible placement will be made thoughtfully by the technical staff on a case-by-case basis."

Heck, you even have to fill out a voluntary Google form to let them you are misaligned because they don't know any ones grades.to even try to force them up.

You obviously cant read

"If a player is academically in a higher grade than their birth date indicates, the club will work to place them in their true academic grade year (playing up). Our goal is to ensure every player is in the best “classroom” for their growth. If that means playing with their actual school classmates to support social development and create a smoother path to high school soccer, the club supports that alignment"

More selective reading on YOUR part. It's not forced. Read carefully.

"If a player is academically in a higher grade than their birth date indicates, the club will work to place them in their true academic grade year (playing up). Our goal is to ensure every player is in the best “classroom” for their growth. If that means playing with their actual school classmates to support social development and create a smoother path to high school soccer, the club supports that alignment"

Seems very clear that they intend to play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team. Be it the coreect grade in school A team or B team.

You think youve found a weasel way to play down. Reality will make sure it does t happen. Sorry, but your holdback and participate in High School soccer at whatever grade they identify as.

Which league has grade in school groupings?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

"Here" plays by the same rules as everyone else. Over time clubs even "here" will start playing playing Aug birthdays on their grade in school team because its easier and solves all kinds of issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

"Here" plays by the same rules as everyone else. Over time clubs even "here" will start playing playing Aug birthdays on their grade in school team because its easier and solves all kinds of issues.

Back to your solving non existent problems narrative I see

1 Clubs don't have a problem today based on kids DOB or month only

2 There is and won't be any such thing as a grade in school team in club soccer. Not even HS has grade in school teams, only Varsity and Junior Varsity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

"Here" plays by the same rules as everyone else. Over time clubs even "here" will start playing playing Aug birthdays on their grade in school team because its easier and solves all kinds of issues.

You keep saying this but I am gonna side with ECNL dude. He has real reasons to play on age for regular season rather than a vague "solves all kinds of issues." FYI, grouping based on 2 criteria is much more difficult than one, DOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

"Here" plays by the same rules as everyone else. Over time clubs even "here" will start playing playing Aug birthdays on their grade in school team because its easier and solves all kinds of issues.

Back to your solving non existent problems narrative I see

1 Clubs don't have a problem today based on kids DOB or month only

2 There is and won't be any such thing as a grade in school team in club soccer. Not even HS has grade in school teams, only Varsity and Junior Varsity

Then why go through changing from BY to SY. If grade in school doesnt exist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.

Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities.

If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade.

The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible.

All you want to do is play down older players against younger ones. Stealing younger players opportunities.

I'm for doing what's BEST for EACH player. That might be playing up OR playing on age. Case-by-case. If you want clubs instead to force inflexible rules on people, what comes around goes around eventually.

No you're not. You're about hiding behind the rules and waiting for whatever opportunity you see to try and push your play down agenda. Too bad its not going to work here.

Here playing up as a choice isn't allowed and playing up is rare and reserved for the best on a case by case basis as decided by clubs based on talent. There is no hiding behind rules, the clubs run the show.

Pretty evident for anyone not trying to hide behind the rules trying to make their Sept kid the oldest.

"Here" plays by the same rules as everyone else. Over time clubs even "here" will start playing playing Aug birthdays on their grade in school team because its easier and solves all kinds of issues.

You keep saying this but I am gonna side with ECNL dude. He has real reasons to play on age for regular season rather than a vague "solves all kinds of issues." FYI, grouping based on 2 criteria is much more difficult than one, DOB.

Of course you're going to side with the guy abvocating playing older players against younger ones stealing the younger players opportunities.

[Anonymous]

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade