ECNL moving to school year part 2
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Anonymous
More selective reading on YOUR part. It's not forced. Read carefully. "If a player is academically in a higher grade than their birth date indicates, the club will work to place them in their true academic grade year (playing up). Our goal is to ensure every player is in the best “classroom” for their growth. If that means playing with their actual school classmates to support social development and create a smoother path to high school soccer, the club supports that alignment" |
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Proof https://docs.google.com/d...obilebasic https://www.pausd.org/enr...-placement https://iusd.org/sites/de...6-27_0.pdf 2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors or Sophomores. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3rd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman |
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General grades for Fall 2026
U19, 8/1/2007 - 7/31, Senior and lower U17, 8/1/2009 - 7/31, Senior and lower U16, 8/1/2010 - 7/31, Junior and lower U15, 8/1/2011 - 7/31, Sophomore and lower U14, 8/1/2012 - 7/31, Freshman and lower U13, 8/1/2013 - 7/31, 8th and lower U12, 8/1/2014 - 7/31, 7th and lower U11, 8/1/2015 - 7/31, 6th and lower U10, 8/1/2016 - 7/31, 5th and lower U9, 8/1/2017 - 7/31, 4th and lower U8, 8/1/2018 - 7/31, 3rd and lower U7, 8/1/2019 - 7/31, 2nd and lower U6, 8/1/2020 - 7/31, 1st and lower U5, 8/1/2021 - 7/31, Kindergarten and lower |
Anonymous
Seems very clear that they intend to play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team. Be it the coreect grade in school A team or B team. You think youve found a weasel way to play down. Reality will make sure it does t happen. Sorry, but your holdback and participate in High School soccer at whatever grade they identify as. |
Anonymous
But my kid skipped 2 grades in school but wants to play on the team his age allows. How does this work? Doesn't seem covered in your matrix. In fact your matrix makes it seem like any older grade kid can play down when this isnt true. |
Anonymous
You still have t figured out how to cut and paste the links yet. Just makes you look dumb and makes iit even more obvious that you're incorrectly hacking up a mathematically correct matrix to try and make it seem like older players can play down. |
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Proof https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf 2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade |
Anonymous
You still have t figured out how to cut and paste the links yet. Just makes you look dumb and makes iit even more obvious that you're incorrectly hacking up a mathematically correct matrix to try and make it seem like older players can play down. |
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Proof https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf 2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade |
Anonymous
It's what they "recommend" but they also say. .... Final Placement Decisions CHSC reserves the right to make final roster and placement decisions. Decisions will be based on tryout evaluations, team composition, long-term development goals, and competitive considerations. The club will communicate placement decisions clearly and work with families to support each player’s transition. |
Anonymous
No, this isn't a game. This is a big country with people RIGHTLY choosing the route they want to go and so far the emphasis on grade -- if there is one -- has been with MORE with clubs further down the pyramid, especially within states, while elite clubs MOSTLY have decided to do what's best for the player ... This is reality. Just like ECNL dude talks about and why ... You just can't bring yourself to admit it. I Hate Soccer Guy: I get DMs all the time about, well, my daughter's an August birthday, but she's graduating and whatever. And like, what are you doing? Okay, let's say a kid falls on the junior team. … Junior class team, but she's graduating this year with the seniors or whatever. … I know a lot of Flash girls are just going to stay in their grad year. What are you guys going to do? ECNL dude: So we actually we spent a lot of time talking to a lot of the top clubs, a lot of like we talked to players, people in the federation, we talked to people in college like what would be the best thing to do because at some point as well you have to rip the band-aid off. It's like if you keep everything as is, you just push the problem down the road. So for us, every single kid is going to where their birth date aligns. Okay? And that includes like no exceptions. So now if we find a situation now where we need to move a kid because they're just unchallenged, right? Then you can move them from there. Yeah. Right. But let's align it all. We'll rip the band-aid off. Right. And now we can truly see things. And not only that, but you look at like if I'm a if I'm a senior and I have the opportunity to play U17 again, I'm doing it a 100 out of 100 times because there's six playoff spots. There's an environment where you're competing for longer, right? right? You got the opportunity to do things and the motivation level is really high. The senior year always curtails unfortunately. Yeah. Um you know with kids. So you know for me it's a lot of people fall into that and as well you get a great benefit of if you're uncommitted you now get to get a redo on some of the exposure that you know you maybe wouldn't have before if you were on a senior team, right? So there's there's a lot of benefits. So for us, you know, we're in a situation where everyone's going into that and then we can move things off of that if it's the right thing. Now then you also have to look at it. Okay, if a player goes into an age younger but their grade level is here, how do you help them with showcasing? So for us, we have made sure that in our kind of roster assembly, we created opportunities so that you know at ECNL showcases or Jefferson Cup or something like that, we have the ability to bring this player with us. So now they still get the best of both worlds, right? If you can develop inside this environment, we can also then showcase you with your grade level, but also if you're maybe a little bit of a late developer, like for example, your typical recruitment, your elite players are getting watched a lot, their sophomore years. Your next tier is mainly the junior year, but let's say you make it to junior year and you've really developed, but now you're on a mainly sophomore team. You get the opportunity to now get re-seen, right, by a lot of those schools that maybe aren't watching junior classes anymore. I Hate Soccer Guy: I've never thought of it like that. ECNL dude: Yeah. Okay. So, there's a lot of benefits to it. That's a positive of being playing down again. Like another positive because the younger parts of the older grade are typically going to be your late developers, right? So, it gives you the opportunity now to really help them because they, you know, whether it's physical maturation, mental, whatever it might be. It's ultimately up to the kid, but they can showcase because we've had a ton of kids that have come in, you know, and been late developers. They've been on second and third teams and they've risen and they've gone, you know, RL to ECNL to power four, right? And that's, you know, one of our one of our goalkeepers is one of my favorite stories of all time. She's a sophomore at Penn State right now. … So you know, yeah, those late developers are there. And that's the thing is you have to have ways to help them, right? And this kind of provides a natural way. If you are a younger part of your grade, you now have a second opportunity that maybe you wouldn't have got before. |
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Wont happen because correct grade players (whos parents paid for the showcase) wont want Aug birthdays playing down on their team taking their kids minutes.
Its always the same with the play downers and hold back people. They try do make it sound like playing against younger players is no big deal. When in reality they're stealing correct grade players opportunities. |
Anonymous
How do you not understand that when a club "recommends" something that its not really a choice. They're just being nice to not hurt feelings. |
Anonymous
If the kids literally are the same age, it's not cheating OR stealing. And if you favor the kids in the younger grade, you are cheating OR stealing opportunities from that kid who's in the higher grade. The club needs to help them BOTH. Not favor one over the other. These clubs are selling platforms to college coaches which means making sure ALL players get the exposure they need. The better they are at that, the more they succeed. That's why they're willing to be flexible. |
Anonymous
Because there's always exceptions, especially in this landscape where parents pick a grade based on a set of factors that most likely have nothing to do with sports. |