SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just over here wondering what’s going on with Miranda’s drinking.

Also Bigs secretary?

And liking the return of Susan Sharon

Yeah, so about her secretary… What was the deal? Carrie said something like “she prefers to be called Gloria,” is she supposed to be trans? Am I missing some thing about what her actual name is? does she have information about how big a squandered all money or something that could devastate Carrie?

It was the title that was the “issue,” not her name. Carrie said that Gloria preferred to be called a “secretary” vs the more PC “admin/executive assistant.”

That line - that she prefers to be called that is totally realistic and made me chuckle.
I’m Jewish and once I was running with a friend and she said Merry Christmas to someone we passed, and then my friend said to me - the reason I said that as opposed to Happy Holidays is because I know her from church. It just cracked me up that we say stuff like that now.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

You do realizing we’re assessing the stupidity of these scene, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

Agreed, Carrie can be awful but I appreciate SJP didn’t take the Mary Sue route with the character.

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+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

Agreed, Carrie can be awful but I appreciate SJP didn’t take the Mary Sue route with the character.

There is a lot of space between Carrie's awfulness and Mary Sue.

Did you ever watch Monk? Tony Shaloub insisted that Adrian Monk not become merely likably quirky over the course of the series. You might understand him better, he might stretch himself in certain ways, but he wasn't going to turn into someone who never made you cringe.

Carrie has some good moments (offering to get Charlotte out of the wedding, being upfront about her abortion -- and calling herself on it when she tried to lie and make it seem more "justifiable" or palatable or whatever), but they're sitting on a pile of cringe.

And Miranda's !!!Drinking!!! Problem!!! is so stupidly . . . . can it even be called "telegraphed'? Megaphoned?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

Agreed, Carrie can be awful but I appreciate SJP didn’t take the Mary Sue route with the character.

Yeah, I’m totally confused reading this thread. The people posting here aren’t actual fans, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

I actually don’t think the angry posters realize this.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

I actually don’t think the angry posters realize this.

The posters think that "willing suspension of disbelief" should not require "total divorce from reality"

Carrie earning a living for one column a week and a few books. OK, whatevs. Trey just handing over an apartment to Charlotte? Sure, why not?

Complete lack of familiarity will calling 911? Pass.

But when Carrie goes broke, then gets saved because Alexsander remembered her in his will and he was killed by Big's ex, who had forgiven Carrie for cheating and wanted to do her a favor, remember: a true fan believes all. That's love.

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Anonymous wrote:Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

You forget that SJP made public a lot of her begging Cattrall to come back, SJP made public her pettiness - it’s even right in the show there, where they totally torpedo the Samantha character as a mercenary, crap friend. It’s great that you think this is some masterstroke on SJP’s part to show Carrie as an unlikeable, whole character, but I think SJP’s just tipping her hand that she’s full of herself and thinks it’s cute.

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My Gawd, ppl, just sit back and enjoy the fashion. don't take it so seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

Obviously the plan was to kill him off. They could have done it far more believably and without making the main character look like a total nimrod if she had just come home to find him dead, or if the paramedics couldn’t save him. Way more effing beliveable.

Carrie IS a total nimrod.

One of the weirdest parts of SATC, and now AJLT, is that SJP is an executive producers, right? Doesn't that mean she has a say in how her character is written? Because Carrie groping Aidan and wailing "You have to forgive me!" Carrie feeling entitled to having someone else make the down payment on her apartment, Carrie not calling 911 -- that's not a realistic portrayal of someone with good and bad traits. That's a repellent nimrod.

+1 Yes, SJP is doing this to herself. And has been since season 3 I think.

You could tell SJP's influence because CB became more and more of a simpering, cutsey idiot. There was more cutting humour in the initial shows. CB became more self centered, more and more like a teenager and less likeable. Does SJP control the writing now because who is writing this drivel? They have to know it is drivel.

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Anonymous wrote:Love it or hate it, this is true and I think SJP is writing herself this way for a reason. I think a lot of haters of the show aren’t getting that. I think maybe this is how she might have seen herself at one time? I just think a lot of people are missing the point of the show. I think Carrie’s character maybe how SJP imagined life was for young women in the “The City”. Remember SJP came from a very poor background.

You forget that SJP made public a lot of her begging Cattrall to come back, SJP made public her pettiness - it’s even right in the show there, where they totally torpedo the Samantha character as a mercenary, crap friend. It’s great that you think this is some masterstroke on SJP’s part to show Carrie as an unlikeable, whole character, but I think SJP’s just tipping her hand that she’s full of herself and thinks it’s cute.

Agreed. It isn't interesting character development. It's writers who live in such a bubble that they are clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean... you all realize these aren't real people, right? The plan was to kill him off. Carrie could have called 911 and done CPR until the cows came home and the man would still be dead, because the writers wanted him dead. He could have stepped into an empty elevator shaft instead but the heart attack would provide a bit more drama. It's a TV show, not a PSA.

I actually don’t think the angry posters realize this.

I see pretty clearly who isn't getting things.