Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They both acted poorly.

They should both be chastised for their poor behavior.

Who goes around trying to get other people's dogs to come to them with a treat and then starts filming? If he's got a problem with dogs off leash, there are much better ways to advocated for leashing. Would it be normal for a man to just go around offering treats to kids too? He acted wrongly and suspiciously.

The lady went nuts with repeatedly calling out the man's race. That was wrong and racist.

Trump playbook. Nope, nope, nope. You can call it all that you want to call because you are a fringe extreme racist. Others and the world is not buying it. Her employer is not buying it and no one else in the world is buying it.

There is one person here who is the victim of racism. There is the White lady here who is an evil Hitler reincarnate. The White woman was racist and clearly intended to cause grievous body harm this African American man and shockingly abusive to the dog,

Those who cannot see this are part of the problem. Their protestations can fall only in the ears of Neo-Nazi, InCels, Fox News watching vigilantes. In short - Trumpers!

+1

I have to agree here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was not a case of racism. It was a case of two entitled jerks one white and one black.

Yup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not a case of racism. It was a case of two entitled jerks one white and one black.

Yup.

Those darned birdwatchers. Entitled to expect someone to follow the posted signs to keep their dogs on a leash AND give the person options of where to have their dog off leash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of you saying he threatened her or her dog, where are you getting that?

Literally ALL he can be heard saying on the video is
- “please don’t close to me,” and he says that multiple times as she storms up and invades his 6-foot space, and
- “go ahead and call the police,” which he also says a few times.

Granted, she does tell the police “an African America man is threatening me and my dog.” But she’s lying because NOTHING in the video supports that.

Signed, a white female birder

They are getting this from misinterpreting what he posted on his Facebook page. Here is his accounting of what happened before the video (so it is only his perspective and she has not commented on it)

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/amy-cooper-video-new-york/

On Facebook, Christian Cooper wrote, “Central Park this morning: This woman’s dog is tearing through the plantings in the Ramble.” He described the conversation he says occurred before he began recording with his cell phone:

ME: Ma’am, dogs in the Ramble have to be on the leash at all times. The sign is right there.
HER: The dog runs are closed. He needs his exercise.
ME: All you have to do is take him to the other side of the drive, outside the Ramble, and you can let him run off leash all you want.
HER: It’s too dangerous.
ME: Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.
HER: What’s that?
ME (to the dog): Come here, puppy!
HER: He won’t come to you.
ME: We’ll see about that…

Christian Cooper said he was planning to offer the dog treats. He told NBC New York, “If the habitat is destroyed we won’t be able to go there to see the birds, to enjoy the plantings. The only way they can keep the dog from eating the treat is to put it on a leash. At some point, she decided I’m gonna play the race card, I guess.”

Christian Cooper wrote, “I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigence. I didn’t even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.” He said she then yelled at him, “don’t you touch my dog.” Christian Cooper said, “That’s when I started video recording with my iPhone, and when her inner Karen fully emerged and took a dark turn…”

They read the underlined line as a threat. I read it as a response, a statement. They seem to hear him saying this with menace in his voice and with scream film music in the background. I hear him saying it calmly, in the same tone that he used a few seconds later in the video. He is trying to illustrate that she does not have control of her pet as she thinks she does. She says that the dog won't come, but he is planning to offer a dog treat. As he says, the way to stop the dog from taking the treat is to leash him. Then he won't get to the treat, but she is not willing to do that.

Regardless of his tone, the words constitute a threat.

Signed,

Lawyer

How, exactly, is this a threat? “I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”
It’s not a threat of physical violence. And you state that it’s not the tone. I don’t see what the specific — or even general threat is.


Kid: “Mom, what’s for dinner?”
Mom: “I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”

I strongly suspect that many of those who view thes words as some sort of threat are projecting quite a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just got around to watching this video - what is racist about what she did? Honest question. She seems genuinely scared and uncertain of why someone is filming her. I guess I would be too, regardless of
Race.

She was acting scared and reported his race so the police would arrest or kill him. Just like Walter McMillian, - bkack man who spent many years on death row after being wrongly accused of killing a white woman. Ahmaud Arbery a black man killed for looking at a house under construction in a white neighborhood, Emmet Till a 14 year old killed for looking at a white woman and the too many ro list cases of police killing unarmed black men. In 2015 police officers killed more than 100 unarmed black people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not a case of racism. It was a case of two entitled jerks one white and one black.

Yup.

When Liberals collide.

Team Dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of you saying he threatened her or her dog, where are you getting that?

Literally ALL he can be heard saying on the video is
- “please don’t close to me,” and he says that multiple times as she storms up and invades his 6-foot space, and
- “go ahead and call the police,” which he also says a few times.

Granted, she does tell the police “an African America man is threatening me and my dog.” But she’s lying because NOTHING in the video supports that.

Signed, a white female birder

They are getting this from misinterpreting what he posted on his Facebook page. Here is his accounting of what happened before the video (so it is only his perspective and she has not commented on it)

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/amy-cooper-video-new-york/

On Facebook, Christian Cooper wrote, “Central Park this morning: This woman’s dog is tearing through the plantings in the Ramble.” He described the conversation he says occurred before he began recording with his cell phone:

ME: Ma’am, dogs in the Ramble have to be on the leash at all times. The sign is right there.
HER: The dog runs are closed. He needs his exercise.
ME: All you have to do is take him to the other side of the drive, outside the Ramble, and you can let him run off leash all you want.
HER: It’s too dangerous.
ME: Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.
HER: What’s that?
ME (to the dog): Come here, puppy!
HER: He won’t come to you.
ME: We’ll see about that…

Christian Cooper said he was planning to offer the dog treats. He told NBC New York, “If the habitat is destroyed we won’t be able to go there to see the birds, to enjoy the plantings. The only way they can keep the dog from eating the treat is to put it on a leash. At some point, she decided I’m gonna play the race card, I guess.”

Christian Cooper wrote, “I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigence. I didn’t even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.” He said she then yelled at him, “don’t you touch my dog.” Christian Cooper said, “That’s when I started video recording with my iPhone, and when her inner Karen fully emerged and took a dark turn…”

They read the underlined line as a threat. I read it as a response, a statement. They seem to hear him saying this with menace in his voice and with scream film music in the background. I hear him saying it calmly, in the same tone that he used a few seconds later in the video. He is trying to illustrate that she does not have control of her pet as she thinks she does. She says that the dog won't come, but he is planning to offer a dog treat. As he says, the way to stop the dog from taking the treat is to leash him. Then he won't get to the treat, but she is not willing to do that.

Regardless of his tone, the words constitute a threat.

Signed,

Lawyer

How, exactly, is this a threat? “I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”
It’s not a threat of physical violence. And you state that it’s not the tone. I don’t see what the specific — or even general threat is.


Kid: “Mom, what’s for dinner?”
Mom: “I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”

I strongly suspect that many of those who view thes words as some sort of threat are projecting quite a bit.

Exactly. He didn't say "I'm going to do what I want, and it involves and ax and a shovel" She on the other hand was pretty upfront with her threat to file a false police report in which her lead would be "I'm going to tell them an African American man is threatening me" and when she fulfilled her threat she made it sound like he was on her heels with an ax and a shovel.

[Anonymous]

She was totally in the wrong, but I think he escalated the situation by offering the dog treats. I wouldn’t expect that to end well. Weird way to handle it.

[Anonymous]

They were both being rude as f*ck to each other. Neither one of these people were right.

The dog was the only one using any sense at all.

[Anonymous]

Someone was looking for a confrontation...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were both being rude as f*ck to each other. Neither one of these people were right.

The dog was the only one using any sense at all.

Yup.

[Anonymous]

DCUM makes me so sad. I cannot believe people are excusing her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"ME: Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it."

I would take that as a threat, and combined with the fact that the man was trying to offer her dogs treats, I would have thought that he wanted to poison my dog. He did threaten her/her dog. The man clearly wanted a reaction to film. Both are very wrong here (yes I think she is racist), and her life is completely ruined.
And fwiw, I hate people who refuse to leash their dogs - it happens all the time; they claim there dogs are so gentle, would never hurt anyone etc etc.

No. She knew within 20 seconds that he was going to give her dog treats. I don’t know how you imagined that about poison, but what are the odds someone is walking around with poisoned dog treats in their pocket.

Anyway, by the time she called the police, she knew it was just treats, and she had her dog on a leash. So all her talk about a black man threatening her was just lies for the benefit of the police and people like you.

I'm not into this statement--which he says he said. I can see how things escalated there. She seems like she loved her dog a lot, I can see how it escalated. The whole thing is overblown.

Apparently Instagram blew up yesterday with pictures of all the injuries her dog had suffered and she ended up giving back to the adoption agency she got him from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were both being rude as f*ck to each other. Neither one of these people were right.

The dog was the only one using any sense at all.

Yup.

Yes, until she said “I’m going to call the cops and tell them an African American man is threatening me.”

That is OBVIOUSLY a threat. She knew exactly what it means to specify that an AA man is threatening her. Calling 911 for a non emergency is awful and illegal to begin with. Says 3x “an African American man is threatening me” is trying to weapon it’s his race against him.

[Anonymous]

^^Weaponize *