LMVSC town hall

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Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

Can we do that for the second half of the season? Leave CCL for EDP?

Why are you asking a Forum? Ask your Coach or the Director. You can also leave mid season and find a new team.

Because DS age group is an academy, whose coach is a director. In short, yes I'm worried DS would be moved to the white team full-time if I went directly to coach (again, who is a director). At the end of the day, I'm just not comfortable doing that. I'd rather ask anonymously on a board that may give me an answer.

I get it. Don't you hate when you can express your concerns without repercussions. Ugh!

To be honest, I don't think it matters if moving is possible if the Club is not willing to do the move.

We'd like to this year but the only real options we'd consider are all CCL clubs (Alexandria, SYC, Arlington).

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LMVSC won't switch to EDP or NCSL, unless they are forced to.

Alexandria and SYC might still have space. Not sure top teams, but 2nd tier teams are like top teams at LMVSC right now.

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Anonymous wrote:LMVSC won't switch to EDP or NCSL, unless they are forced to.

Alexandria and SYC might still have space. Not sure top teams, but 2nd tier teams are like top teams at LMVSC right now.

That's part of my original question, can they be forced mid-season? Or do we have to finish the CCL season?

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Given that we're in the middle of a pandemic and CCL is not even keeping scores/standings, LMVSC might be able to stay in CCL the whole season.

Personally I think it looks bad for CCL to have a club that can't field teams and has to forfeit. Losing games is probably not an issue since there is always a team/club at the bottom!

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Anonymous wrote:Given that we're in the middle of a pandemic and CCL is not even keeping scores/standings, LMVSC might be able to stay in CCL the whole season.

Personally I think it looks bad for CCL to have a club that can't field teams and has to forfeit. Losing games is probably not an issue since there is always a team/club at the bottom!

Doesn’t the club pay for the whole season though? My child is in one of the filler teams and having a good experience so far. I hope it doesn’t change mid-year.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that we're in the middle of a pandemic and CCL is not even keeping scores/standings, LMVSC might be able to stay in CCL the whole season.

Personally I think it looks bad for CCL to have a club that can't field teams and has to forfeit. Losing games is probably not an issue since there is always a team/club at the bottom!

Doesn’t the club pay for the whole season though? My child is in one of the filler teams and having a good experience so far. I hope it doesn’t change mid-year.

Since there are so many filler teams, not quite sure. More than likely, LMVSC doesn't completely pull out of CCL this season. Regardless, there's just no way they'll be in CCL next season. I'm sure there'll be more players leaving, another turnover of staff, coaches leaving, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that we're in the middle of a pandemic and CCL is not even keeping scores/standings, LMVSC might be able to stay in CCL the whole season.

Personally I think it looks bad for CCL to have a club that can't field teams and has to forfeit. Losing games is probably not an issue since there is always a team/club at the bottom!

Doesn’t the club pay for the whole season though? My child is in one of the filler teams and having a good experience so far. I hope it doesn’t change mid-year.

Since there are so many filler teams, not quite sure. More than likely, LMVSC doesn't completely pull out of CCL this season. Regardless, there's just no way they'll be in CCL next season. I'm sure there'll be more players leaving, another turnover of staff, coaches leaving, etc.

without CCL, what do they advertise? LMVSC minus CCL is exactly the same as dozens of smaller clubs - I doubt that LB would go for it

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Anonymous wrote:We canceled on Beach FC. We didn't reschedule, we forfeit. One club not playing another, guess what that means? We're not a CCL club.

In fairness, though, I'd be more than happy to forfeit every single away game at Beach. It is punitively stupid that they are in a "league" with NOVA teams.

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Anonymous wrote:We canceled on Beach FC. We didn't reschedule, we forfeit. One club not playing another, guess what that means? We're not a CCL club.

In fairness, though, I'd be more than happy to forfeit every single away game at Beach. It is punitively stupid that they are in a "league" with NOVA teams.

Guess that cancels Rush & Legacy (southern VA), VBR (western Virginia), SOCA & Richmond (central VA), and WVFC/Frederick/Stoddert/etc (out of state).

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Any potentially issue with LMVSC and CCL is between LMVSC and CCL. Your opinion about what either should do is meaningless and trivial.

They'll figure it out without your expert opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:We canceled on Beach FC. We didn't reschedule, we forfeit. One club not playing another, guess what that means? We're not a CCL club.

In fairness, though, I'd be more than happy to forfeit every single away game at Beach. It is punitively stupid that they are in a "league" with NOVA teams.

Guess that cancels Rush & Legacy (southern VA), VBR (western Virginia), SOCA & Richmond (central VA), and WVFC/Frederick/Stoddert/etc (out of state).

SOCA is about 2 hrs. Richmond a little more than that. WVFC (in CCL now?), Frederick, and Stoddert are all within a two-hour radius.

But yeah, VBR is also punitively stupid. Legacy...kind of on the border--they, rush, and Beach could all do a league together.

Driving 6 hours for an 80 minute game (VBR and Beach) is. horrible. better. to. forfeit.

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Anonymous wrote:We canceled on Beach FC. We didn't reschedule, we forfeit. One club not playing another, guess what that means? We're not a CCL club.

In fairness, though, I'd be more than happy to forfeit every single away game at Beach. It is punitively stupid that they are in a "league" with NOVA teams.

Guess that cancels Rush & Legacy (southern VA), VBR (western Virginia), SOCA & Richmond (central VA), and WVFC/Frederick/Stoddert/etc (out of state).

SOCA is about 2 hrs. Richmond a little more than that. WVFC (in CCL now?), Frederick, and Stoddert are all within a two-hour radius.

But yeah, VBR is also punitively stupid. Legacy...kind of on the border--they, rush, and Beach could all do a league together.

Driving 6 hours for an 80 minute game (VBR and Beach) is. horrible. better. to. forfeit.

I have a bit of advice, if travel is the worst part about travel soccer, I'd recommend looking into travel leagues with less travel. Several parents have been on this thread (much earlier) making it clear they would rather be a part of NCSL, or even CCL Championship (CCL 2). Less travel, more competitive levels for our teams. But the poster I am responding to, the comment in bold appears to be what is sought after, not what you wrote (in italics). I agree, btw, we really should consider returning to NCSL.

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Anonymous wrote:Any potentially issue with LMVSC and CCL is between LMVSC and CCL. Your opinion about what either should do is meaningless and trivial.

They'll figure it out without your expert opinions.

Okay, poster at 1:39am, let me introduce a new perspective: the club provides a service to its paying members. "They'll figure it out without our expert opinions" is what put us here in the first place. Do you think we wanted to lose EM, PM, JO, and the rest of the coaches? Because entire TEAMS changed clubs, and it wasn't just the red teams. I swear, it feels like we are half the size of what we once were. What about the players that left this season? Do you think it's just an anomaly?

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Anonymous wrote:Any potentially issue with LMVSC and CCL is between LMVSC and CCL. Your opinion about what either should do is meaningless and trivial.

They'll figure it out without your expert opinions.

potential issue? missing 2002, 2004, 2005, 2009 boys? missing 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 girls? there's no "potential issue", there's "a club that is falling apart".

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Anonymous wrote:Any potentially issue with LMVSC and CCL is between LMVSC and CCL. Your opinion about what either should do is meaningless and trivial.

They'll figure it out without your expert opinions.

Well said Lula, you don't need to explain yourself or LMVSC to no one. Everyone's opinion is meaningless and your amazing leadership throughout the years perfectly demonstrates it.