LMVSC town hall

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Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

I think this would be a good option as well. Are ccl fees paid for the entire year (fall/spring) or per season? Fees won’t lower much as those leagues still cost money and coaches need to get paid. I just think the playing experience for the overall club would be better based on current level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

I think this would be a good option as well. Are ccl fees paid for the entire year (fall/spring) or per season? Fees won’t lower much as those leagues still cost money and coaches need to get paid. I just think the playing experience for the overall club would be better based on current level.

1) EDP > CCL (like light years)

2) lower coaches salaries. It’s not like they’re producing world class product anyways.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

I think this would be a good option as well. Are ccl fees paid for the entire year (fall/spring) or per season? Fees won’t lower much as those leagues still cost money and coaches need to get paid. I just think the playing experience for the overall club would be better based on current level.

NCSL is a lot cheaper than CCL. Playing experience? Not sure what team you're on, but our team defends the majority of the game. That's not game experience. I haven't seen any of our teams really able to to compete. We're out regardless what league the club will be in.

[Anonymous]

Wait so let me get this straight. LMVSC is able to charge more because they are in CCL however dont have enough teams at each age group to field a CCL team and some teams are in NCSL. Does that mean everyone pays the "CCL rate" regardless of what league they end up on? Something sounds fishy here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait so let me get this straight. LMVSC is able to charge more because they are in CCL however dont have enough teams at each age group to field a CCL team and some teams are in NCSL. Does that mean everyone pays the "CCL rate" regardless of what league they end up on? Something sounds fishy here.

I don't think it's a CCL rate as some are calling it. In prior years teams paid different based on what league they played in. I think that one of the complaints was that the ccl teams got more training so they changed to the "academy" training and now everyone is charged the same. I think some other clubs just charge the same per age group without the "academy" training together even though teams play in different leagues and others charge depending on the level of team.

[Anonymous]

For the poster saying it's a lot cheaper, some time ago I saw the annual fee for a ccl team and it wasn't much different than ncsl. The ccl figure was for the entire year so when you doubled ncsl's seasonal fee it came to almost the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait so let me get this straight. LMVSC is able to charge more because they are in CCL however dont have enough teams at each age group to field a CCL team and some teams are in NCSL. Does that mean everyone pays the "CCL rate" regardless of what league they end up on? Something sounds fishy here.

they advertise CCL as a hook. If you have a U little, you probably think that means they are a competitive club who has teams in a competitive league rather an they outsource some teams and send other teams to CCL with the expectation that they'll never win a game

[Anonymous]

We canceled on Beach FC. We didn't reschedule, we forfeit. One club not playing another, guess what that means? We're not a CCL club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the poster saying it's a lot cheaper, some time ago I saw the annual fee for a ccl team and it wasn't much different than ncsl. The ccl figure was for the entire year so when you doubled ncsl's seasonal fee it came to almost the same.

It is cheaper regardless of the amount. I don't want to overpay (which I am) for my DS team to play defense for the entire game because our opponents are literally too good for us (which is the case). We were the best team in CCL in our age group, and now what? We just lost to a B team, I don't think it gets better from here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

Can we do that for the second half of the season? Leave CCL for EDP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

Can we do that for the second half of the season? Leave CCL for EDP?

Why are you asking a Forum? Ask your Coach or the Director. You can also leave mid season and find a new team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

Can we do that for the second half of the season? Leave CCL for EDP?

Why are you asking a Forum? Ask your Coach or the Director. You can also leave mid season and find a new team.

Because DS age group is an academy, whose coach is a director. In short, yes I'm worried DS would be moved to the white team full-time if I went directly to coach (again, who is a director). At the end of the day, I'm just not comfortable doing that. I'd rather ask anonymously on a board that may give me an answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually expected them to shrink gracefully this season- why did they register teams they didn't have?

Because CCL required them to register. I heard that SYC took many of the coaches and basically made it so LMVSC couldn't function.

Having seen this weekend as a LMVSC parent, this is just not true. Yes, losing EM/PM and coaches hurt. But what did we do to make it better? Be lied to in 2019 town hall about rotating coaches. Make bad hires (two technical directors walked away from job before LC took it). Implement an academy structure to pretend that's what our players need. Want to know why we're losing so much? We're punching above our weight. Our high school age teams straight up forfeited against Beach FC, we weren't competitive in most games against Arlington and SYC, and probably same thing when we do played Alexandria. The best remaining players ARE going to leave to those three clubs. If we're still in CCL's top league next season, we're leaving. It's not a good playing experience, it's too expensive, and it's just upsetting.

real questions for you: do you think LMVSC will either improve their services, and, do you think LMVSC will vacate CCL?

Well, I think LMVSC can improve their services, but only because I am really unsatisfied so there should be nowhere to go but up. I don't think they will improve, though. LB has a history of making poor decisions, and after this season people will see the academy system wasn't what we needed so I'm sure she'll hire another new TD. As far as vacating CCL, I don't know. I'm sure the club is more than happy to have their teams have a bad playing experience, because at the end of the day, they can charge more if in CCL. If LMVSC was only in NCSL, then they would have to lower the rates (meaning lower the pay). Teams are already disappearing, I can't see many good options. The boys side and girls side for the older teams will basically disappear, if anything I think what happens is CCL doesn't allow them to return.

The problem is that LMVSC refuses to recognize reality. They are no longer a CCL-level club but they're in CCL.

NCSL + EDP for a clubs better team is a solution for smaller clubs. LMVSC just won't accept that they are a smaller club now

Can we do that for the second half of the season? Leave CCL for EDP?

Why are you asking a Forum? Ask your Coach or the Director. You can also leave mid season and find a new team.

Because DS age group is an academy, whose coach is a director. In short, yes I'm worried DS would be moved to the white team full-time if I went directly to coach (again, who is a director). At the end of the day, I'm just not comfortable doing that. I'd rather ask anonymously on a board that may give me an answer.

I get it. Don't you hate when you can express your concerns without repercussions. Ugh!

To be honest, I don't think it matters if moving is possible if the Club is not willing to do the move.