Official Abortion Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to high-tech ultrasound technology we know with 100% certainty that we are not dealing with frogs, aliens, or clumps of cells but human beings. We now have photos of babies born dead due to miscarriage because their mothers refused D&C but delivered them whole and intact after a miscarriage. We can clearly visualize all body parts of a tiny, tiny human being. So called pro-choice side keeps offending and alienating numerous women who endured miscarriages by calling their babies product of conception, medical waste and denying the humanity of those babies.
Images included:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/brave-mum-shares-images-dead-13517391

P.S. Watch for so called pro-choice posters demanding this post be removed so that any images of unborn humans are not seen. The more they do that the harder will be for them to sustain any kind of momentum in this conversation and legislations that will ensue.

No shit. They are early form of human development. Of course they look like humans. Are you stupid or something?

I have no problem with images of deceased or aborted embryos and fetuses. Feel free to post.

It's very sad, but a necessary evil. Grow the F up.

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At least you acknowledge that it's an evil act.

Yes, it’s a sh1tty situation. The kind that adults deal with every day. GROW UP.

Probably some religious nutter will take “evil” as meaning something more than it is though. Idiots.

Just those that have a life based in egoism and narcissism. They tend to spend their life walking over alive and dead to get what they want. Their ultimate goal is :me.me,me. They are also rude and entitled. When they get old they become miserable and die alone.

Actually, it's sad to assume that just because a family is poor that they can't or won't provide their kids with a stable support system and teach their children good values. Many parents teach their children to work hard, try their best in school, make plans for their future, stay away from drugs/alcohol, AND not have sex as often as rabbits with no protection. I work every day in schools with parents like that--they are amazing role models for their kids.

I totally agree with you. I was responding to the poster who was using insults to justify how being selfish is great. I agree with your every word. Just because someone has money they are not more entitled to be alive than someone without many. Many poor people raise wonderful and responsible children. It is so condescending when those with good jobs in DC tell people around the country that they should kill their offspring off because they are poor and/or disabled. Talk about playing an entitled god. Meantime, those same "well-off" people have sex without protection, cheat on their spouses (because they have time and money), get STDs and use abortion as contraception. What they are really "fighting" for is to use abortion as contraception. They don't give a rat's ass about poor people and their rights. And that's the essence of egoism. Most poor people work hard for decent life and want to make their families strong.

PP here. Well said.

Uh. No one was forcing anyone to have an abortion.

Which poor people wouldn’t want:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- and access to abortion if that is what they decided was the best option for them?

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to high-tech ultrasound technology we know with 100% certainty that we are not dealing with frogs, aliens, or clumps of cells but human beings. We now have photos of babies born dead due to miscarriage because their mothers refused D&C but delivered them whole and intact after a miscarriage. We can clearly visualize all body parts of a tiny, tiny human being. So called pro-choice side keeps offending and alienating numerous women who endured miscarriages by calling their babies product of conception, medical waste and denying the humanity of those babies.
Images included:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/brave-mum-shares-images-dead-13517391

P.S. Watch for so called pro-choice posters demanding this post be removed so that any images of unborn humans are not seen. The more they do that the harder will be for them to sustain any kind of momentum in this conversation and legislations that will ensue.

No shit. They are early form of human development. Of course they look like humans. Are you stupid or something?

I have no problem with images of deceased or aborted embryos and fetuses. Feel free to post.

It's very sad, but a necessary evil. Grow the F up.

[phone]

At least you acknowledge that it's an evil act.

Yes, it’s a sh1tty situation. The kind that adults deal with every day. GROW UP.

Probably some religious nutter will take “evil” as meaning something more than it is though. Idiots.

Just those that have a life based in egoism and narcissism. They tend to spend their life walking over alive and dead to get what they want. Their ultimate goal is :me.me,me. They are also rude and entitled. When they get old they become miserable and die alone.

Actually, it's sad to assume that just because a family is poor that they can't or won't provide their kids with a stable support system and teach their children good values. Many parents teach their children to work hard, try their best in school, make plans for their future, stay away from drugs/alcohol, AND not have sex as often as rabbits with no protection. I work every day in schools with parents like that--they are amazing role models for their kids.

I totally agree with you. I was responding to the poster who was using insults to justify how being selfish is great. I agree with your every word. Just because someone has money they are not more entitled to be alive than someone without many. Many poor people raise wonderful and responsible children. It is so condescending when those with good jobs in DC tell people around the country that they should kill their offspring off because they are poor and/or disabled. Talk about playing an entitled god. Meantime, those same "well-off" people have sex without protection, cheat on their spouses (because they have time and money), get STDs and use abortion as contraception. What they are really "fighting" for is to use abortion as contraception. They don't give a rat's ass about poor people and their rights. And that's the essence of egoism. Most poor people work hard for decent life and want to make their families strong.

PP here. Well said.

Uh. No one was forcing anyone to have an abortion.

Which poor people wouldn’t want:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- and access to abortion if that is what they decided was the best option for them?

Exactly. Pro-birthers are at their most hilarious when they pretend they are saying something revolutionary when they point out that poor people love their kids and do a damn fine job raising them despite the difficulties they face. WE KNOW THAT. That has f-all to do with preserving choice. We don't want to tell people to abort if they don't want to. We want to prevent unplanned pregnancy, and fully support the babies that are actually born.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”

F that. Poverty is poverty.

If you don’t like abortions, then elect people who will help:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- etc.

If you want the baby to live, along with the father and the mother, then quit bitching and actually help the father and mother.

You don't need sex for survival. It's not a life necessity. If you can't precent pregnancy on your own, don't have sex or get sterilized. Than you can do whatever you want to your body.

Grow up and face reality.

Reality:
- People have sex
- People are lazy
- Unwanted pregnancies will occur

Absolutely nothing you can do will change that.

You can choose to make the best of the situation and try to minimize unwanted pregnancies. Or not.

Despite numerous contraceptives that can be doubled or tripled people use abortion as contraception. Despite unprecedented choice in history to do whatever you want to your body without harming another body, people are more and more condescending of unborn life. The more choices, the less respect for unborn life. That's why that choice will be abolished.

Interesting...

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to high-tech ultrasound technology we know with 100% certainty that we are not dealing with frogs, aliens, or clumps of cells but human beings. We now have photos of babies born dead due to miscarriage because their mothers refused D&C but delivered them whole and intact after a miscarriage. We can clearly visualize all body parts of a tiny, tiny human being. So called pro-choice side keeps offending and alienating numerous women who endured miscarriages by calling their babies product of conception, medical waste and denying the humanity of those babies.
Images included:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/brave-mum-shares-images-dead-13517391

P.S. Watch for so called pro-choice posters demanding this post be removed so that any images of unborn humans are not seen. The more they do that the harder will be for them to sustain any kind of momentum in this conversation and legislations that will ensue.

No shit. They are early form of human development. Of course they look like humans. Are you stupid or something?

I have no problem with images of deceased or aborted embryos and fetuses. Feel free to post.

It's very sad, but a necessary evil. Grow the F up.

[phone]

At least you acknowledge that it's an evil act.

Yes, it’s a sh1tty situation. The kind that adults deal with every day. GROW UP.

Probably some religious nutter will take “evil” as meaning something more than it is though. Idiots.

Just those that have a life based in egoism and narcissism. They tend to spend their life walking over alive and dead to get what they want. Their ultimate goal is :me.me,me. They are also rude and entitled. When they get old they become miserable and die alone.

Actually, it's sad to assume that just because a family is poor that they can't or won't provide their kids with a stable support system and teach their children good values. Many parents teach their children to work hard, try their best in school, make plans for their future, stay away from drugs/alcohol, AND not have sex as often as rabbits with no protection. I work every day in schools with parents like that--they are amazing role models for their kids.

I totally agree with you. I was responding to the poster who was using insults to justify how being selfish is great. I agree with your every word. Just because someone has money they are not more entitled to be alive than someone without many. Many poor people raise wonderful and responsible children. It is so condescending when those with good jobs in DC tell people around the country that they should kill their offspring off because they are poor and/or disabled. Talk about playing an entitled god. Meantime, those same "well-off" people have sex without protection, cheat on their spouses (because they have time and money), get STDs and use abortion as contraception. What they are really "fighting" for is to use abortion as contraception. They don't give a rat's ass about poor people and their rights. And that's the essence of egoism. Most poor people work hard for decent life and want to make their families strong.

PP here. Well said.

Uh. No one was forcing anyone to have an abortion.

Which poor people wouldn’t want:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- and access to abortion if that is what they decided was the best option for them?

Exactly. Pro-birthers are at their most hilarious when they pretend they are saying something revolutionary when they point out that poor people love their kids and do a damn fine job raising them despite the difficulties they face. WE KNOW THAT. That has f-all to do with preserving choice. We don't want to tell people to abort if they don't want to. We want to prevent unplanned pregnancy, and fully support the babies that are actually born.

Exactly. Unlike the pro-birthers.

[Anonymous]

Despite numerous contraceptives that can be doubled or tripled people use abortion as contraception. Despite unprecedented choice in history to do whatever you want to your body without harming another body, people are more and more condescending of unborn life. The more choices, the less respect for unborn life. That's why that choice will be abolished.

? Abortion is not a contraceptive for starters. The very definition of a contraceptive is that it prevents pregnancy.

You are wrong that abortion as a choice will be abolished. It will always be a choice because it will always be available somewhere, but the question is more who will be able to afford the choice (middle and upper classes always will), but poor women in Alabama, etc. obviously will be without the choice (so they will have more respect for unborn life in your scenario I guess).

[Anonymous]

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Despite numerous contraceptives that can be doubled or tripled people use abortion as contraception. Despite unprecedented choice in history to do whatever you want to your body without harming another body, people are more and more condescending of unborn life. The more choices, the less respect for unborn life. That's why that choice will be abolished.

? Abortion is not a contraceptive for starters. The very definition of a contraceptive is that it prevents pregnancy.

You are wrong that abortion as a choice will be abolished. It will always be a choice because it will always be available somewhere, but the question is more who will be able to afford the choice (middle and upper classes always will), but poor women in Alabama, etc. obviously will be without the choice (so they will have more respect for unborn life in your scenario I guess).

Let's see.

[Anonymous]

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Despite numerous contraceptives that can be doubled or tripled people use abortion as contraception. Despite unprecedented choice in history to do whatever you want to your body without harming another body, people are more and more condescending of unborn life. The more choices, the less respect for unborn life. That's why that choice will be abolished.

? Abortion is not a contraceptive for starters. The very definition of a contraceptive is that it prevents pregnancy.

You are wrong that abortion as a choice will be abolished. It will always be a choice because it will always be available somewhere, but the question is more who will be able to afford the choice (middle and upper classes always will), but poor women in Alabama, etc. obviously will be without the choice (so they will have more respect for unborn life in your scenario I guess).

+1

The main people this will hurt are poor people. F them, right pro-birthers? They deserve to be punished.

[Anonymous]

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Despite numerous contraceptives that can be doubled or tripled people use abortion as contraception. Despite unprecedented choice in history to do whatever you want to your body without harming another body, people are more and more condescending of unborn life. The more choices, the less respect for unborn life. That's why that choice will be abolished.

? Abortion is not a contraceptive for starters. The very definition of a contraceptive is that it prevents pregnancy.

You are wrong that abortion as a choice will be abolished. It will always be a choice because it will always be available somewhere, but the question is more who will be able to afford the choice (middle and upper classes always will), but poor women in Alabama, etc. obviously will be without the choice (so they will have more respect for unborn life in your scenario I guess).

Even if you manage to ban abortion in every state, there will be underground providers selling abortion pills; and people will fly to Canada and England and Mexico ... if the have the money. I'd fly to Canada in a second to get an abortion if I had to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crime will increase as unwanted children are born, according to the Freakonomics guys. There are many more societal ills than benefits when you force women to have a baby.

This is probably true, but it doesn't justify killing fetuses.

[Anonymous]

Abortions will always take place. Just not for the poor. This is just an attack on the poor. SOP for the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortions will always take place. Just not for the poor. This is just an attack on the poor. SOP for the GOP.

Murder will also always take place.
Work to make abortion rare. Why not??????

[Anonymous]

Isn’t the rationale for not implementing gun safety regulation that criminals will get guns anyway and the loss of life is a unfortunate consequence of maintaining our rights? Seems like the same could be said for abortions, so why bother restricting them further when people will get them anyway and the loss of life is just an unfortunate consequence?

[Anonymous]

We can be like the Philiippines one day. After we ban abortion nationwide and we can have millions of abandoned children living out of dumpsters and feeding the human trafficking industry of the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”

F that. Poverty is poverty.

If you don’t like abortions, then elect people who will help:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- etc.

If you want the baby to live, along with the father and the mother, then quit bitching and actually help the father and mother.

You don't need sex for survival. It's not a life necessity. If you can't precent pregnancy on your own, don't have sex or get sterilized. Than you can do whatever you want to your body.

So this is really about your failed sex life? You are jealous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”

F that. Poverty is poverty.

If you don’t like abortions, then elect people who will help:
- sex education
- free/accessible health care
- free/accessible birth control (incl LARCs)
- maternity & paternity leave
- childcare
- etc.

If you want the baby to live, along with the father and the mother, then quit bitching and actually help the father and mother.

You don't need sex for survival. It's not a life necessity. If you can't precent pregnancy on your own, don't have sex or get sterilized. Than you can do whatever you want to your body.

So this is really about your failed sex life? You are jealous.

Having unplanned pregnancies and abortions is not a badge of successful sex life. It's a badge of being trash.