Official Abortion Thread
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Anonymous
Definitely sounds like you don’t get laid. You wouldn’t be so hateful if you had satisfying sex. |
Anonymous
Honest Question: How many of you got abortions because you didn’t have “sex education”? What percentage of girls/women getting obortions seriously just didn’t know they might get pregnant if they have sex? |
Anonymous
In a civilized society (which is what we should be aiming to be), rare is a good goal if the approach is to reduce unwanted pregnancies and increase support so that women choose to continue a pregnancy instead of having an abortion. It is most uncivilized to force a woman to continue a pregnancy simply because it is now illegal to have an abortion. That approach only seems to make our society much more uncivilized. Women should always have the option and society should be supportive such that women conclude that continuing a pregnancy is the wanted approach. |
Anonymous
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What about the rights of the unborn life? What rights do THEY have? |
Anonymous
Honest answer: A whole lot. Read: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15226785_Contraception_in_The_Netherlands_the_low_abortion_rate_explained |
Anonymous
How about the cliff notes, in your own words... |
Anonymous
You are not going to find those women on DCUM. Some of them barely got an education at all sadly. Many live in Alabama, Mississippi, etc. You know, where they don't allow those kinds of discussions in schools. They don't even think evolution should be discussed. |
Anonymous
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/24/new-abortion-laws-are-especially-cruel-my-patients-with-high-risk-pregnancies/
This opinion piece, from a high-risk OB says it all: “You may say that no doctor in this situation would be prosecuted; regardless, those laws have an effect, because they exist. Laws such as those passed in Alabama, Missouri and Georgia create an incentive that divides us: I can take the best care of her or protect myself, but I can’t do both. This divergence of interests creates hesitation, and that hesitation creates delay; for some women, that delay will mean danger. It’s one thing to accompany a woman who chooses this narrow and dangerous path in accordance with her beliefs and hopes; it’s quite another to have forced her down it.” Even in desperately wanted pregnancies, unanticipated complications can arise. This doctor’s primary goal is to get women to the finish line with a healthy baby, but that isn’t always possible. We have not tamed nature to the point where our health is guaranteed. |
Anonymous
Also ... I feel like you can't have it both ways. You can't claim that getting rid of abortion is going to reduced unplanned pregnancy because women will change their behavior; and then ALSO claim that sex education and knowing how to access birth control has no impact on the unplanned pregnancy rate. If women "learn" to change their sexual behavior by not having access to abortion; then they also "learn" to prevent pregnancy through sex education and access to birth control. And obviously, the latter is much more likely to be successful, and less coercive. The rationale for banning abortion cannot be "teaching women a lesson." |
Anonymous
But you WILL find plenty of women on DCUM (raises hand!) who were taught dysfunctional attitudes about sex that lead to poor choices. When sex education is considered controversial, messages are mixed (women are "sluts" but then you're bombarded with sexual images of women), and family conversation about sex is limited to "it's dangerous!" or just silence ... then girls and women do not develop the mindset to make rationale and responsible choices. One of the reasons the Netherlands has such a low unintended pregnancy rate is that Dutch families accept sex as normal and good and inevitable, and openly teach the value of responsibility. |
Anonymous
Ahhh...once again, a post from an ignorant or purposefully biased DCUM poster who mentions Alabama and Mississippi. You think all the pregnant teens in big cities in the north and other areas are more informed? Or did you mean they're more informed about getting abortions? |
Anonymous
And yet I'm not surprised. I know someone who is extremely pro-life, does not believe in exceptions except for mother's life in imminent danger, yet when I suggested certain examples that might happen in real life, with detail, he flipped towards what he regarded as "common sense". I suspect this is often the case with other highly controversial issues--just like how conservatives in some red state town are dismayed when the undocumented guy who's run the local steakhouse for 20 years and is known for his volunteer work gets a deportation order. Hard to understand how the extreme points of view get their political attention. |
Anonymous
| so after it's illegal, what will we do with all the unwanted children born to moms who can't take care of them? Are we going to give them mom-friendly jobs? What if the mom is a 13year old? How do we make the dads support them? What if the dads run off to another state? Are we going to have orphanages staffed with caretakers to help out? |
Anonymous
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One can only wonder... if abortion is no longer available as birth control, how many fewer unwanted pregnancies might there be? |
Anonymous
The answer is zero. There will be zero fewer unwanted pregnancies. We know there will be more. We go through this exercise a lot. Cannot wait for those kids to grow up knowing no one wanted them! |