Do you like Taylor Swift?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does a showgirl have to be barely dressed

I always appreciated that she wasn’t “sexy”. Obv she can do what she wants but going doggy style in the album cover

She is 35 though. I get she has a lot of young fans but none of these photos seem that shocking, to me anyway.

And it goes well with the show girl theme. Shrug.

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Anonymous wrote:So I started reading this thread for fun and it's quite literally insane. I'd like Taylor Swift well enough. I'm not a super fan but I do really admire her..

But it's absolutely insane to me the idea of calling a 35 year old woman washed up, has been, spent. It's so misogynist I just can't even wrap my head around it.

Is it possible to just dislike an artist without being so deeply offensive to women who have worked hard to make such a spectacular career?

It’s not misogyny. Male pop singers are generally washed up by their mid 30s too. Creative prime is teens thru late 20s. Everyone knows this. Why do you think singers lie about their ages? It’s a young man/woman’s industry. Also why Swift is orbiting much younger and organically more popular girls like Carpenter, Rodrigo, and Eilish.

If she did another year and a half of the eras tour it would surely sell out as her last one did. If that is washed up to you then I don’t know what you consider to be someone’s prime.

Swift's creative prime was probably... 2006 to 2015? Everything after is just tons of studio money buying the "it" hottest pop producers to manufacture faux hit songs they can astroturf to her brainwashed base.

midnights and ttpd were masterpieces. The new albulm looks like junk based on lyric leaks, but her artistic peak was just her last two albums.

I would include Folklore and Evermore as masterpieces as well. Really hoping the new album isn’t a letdown.

+1. TTPD, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights are her best albums, by far. I also like Lover (love Death By a Thousand Cuts!) and some songs on Reputation. What they all have in common is the same producer and collaborator, Jack Antonoff, and the same influence and muse, Matty Healy. Without them, I fear her new album will be just trite pop "bangers."
I am keeping an open mind though and hope she proves me wrong.

Not just Jack Antonoff, but also Aaron Dessner. Both of those guys have produced/ collaborated on her most outstanding work. I’ll miss their chemistry, but hopefully it’s not the last time they’ll collaborate.

Jack did very little on reputation. Max Martin and shellback are who she worked with, and for this next album she’s going back to them. They’re also total legends and it’s impossible for me to believe that these three creative geniuses are going to put out crap. The album is going to be good. It may not be everyone’s taste, but it is objectively going to have some good songs and o don’t see how these three are not going to be successful.

Sure, but Jack and Aaron were her main collaborators on her last four albums, which were all fantastic. Max Martin and Shellback are great too, but they don’t have the depth that the other two do. At any rate, hoping for the best.

1989 and reputation are absolutely legendary Taylor Swift albums that people go apeshit for. Max and Shellback both worked on both of those. Not to mention 100 other top artist that have iconic songs because of them.

I like Jack and Aaron, but I’m really looking forward to this. I definitely think she needs a break from Jack and I liked what Aaron did on the the last few albums, but I really want some pop bangers. I’m so ready for this.

Np. I just wish she could sing

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Anonymous wrote:So I started reading this thread for fun and it's quite literally insane. I'd like Taylor Swift well enough. I'm not a super fan but I do really admire her..

But it's absolutely insane to me the idea of calling a 35 year old woman washed up, has been, spent. It's so misogynist I just can't even wrap my head around it.

Is it possible to just dislike an artist without being so deeply offensive to women who have worked hard to make such a spectacular career?

It’s not misogyny. Male pop singers are generally washed up by their mid 30s too. Creative prime is teens thru late 20s. Everyone knows this. Why do you think singers lie about their ages? It’s a young man/woman’s industry. Also why Swift is orbiting much younger and organically more popular girls like Carpenter, Rodrigo, and Eilish.

If she did another year and a half of the eras tour it would surely sell out as her last one did. If that is washed up to you then I don’t know what you consider to be someone’s prime.

Swift's creative prime was probably... 2006 to 2015? Everything after is just tons of studio money buying the "it" hottest pop producers to manufacture faux hit songs they can astroturf to her brainwashed base.

midnights and ttpd were masterpieces. The new albulm looks like junk based on lyric leaks, but her artistic peak was just her last two albums.

I would include Folklore and Evermore as masterpieces as well. Really hoping the new album isn’t a letdown.

+1. TTPD, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights are her best albums, by far. I also like Lover (love Death By a Thousand Cuts!) and some songs on Reputation. What they all have in common is the same producer and collaborator, Jack Antonoff, and the same influence and muse, Matty Healy. Without them, I fear her new album will be just trite pop "bangers."
I am keeping an open mind though and hope she proves me wrong.

Not just Jack Antonoff, but also Aaron Dessner. Both of those guys have produced/ collaborated on her most outstanding work. I’ll miss their chemistry, but hopefully it’s not the last time they’ll collaborate.

Jack did very little on reputation. Max Martin and shellback are who she worked with, and for this next album she’s going back to them. They’re also total legends and it’s impossible for me to believe that these three creative geniuses are going to put out crap. The album is going to be good. It may not be everyone’s taste, but it is objectively going to have some good songs and o don’t see how these three are not going to be successful.

Sure, but Jack and Aaron were her main collaborators on her last four albums, which were all fantastic. Max Martin and Shellback are great too, but they don’t have the depth that the other two do. At any rate, hoping for the best.

1989 and reputation are absolutely legendary Taylor Swift albums that people go apeshit for. Max and Shellback both worked on both of those. Not to mention 100 other top artist that have iconic songs because of them.

I like Jack and Aaron, but I’m really looking forward to this. I definitely think she needs a break from Jack and I liked what Aaron did on the the last few albums, but I really want some pop bangers. I’m so ready for this.

Np. I just wish she could sing

It seems she sings well enough. No one, not even TS, claims she's got the best pipes.

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Anonymous wrote:So I started reading this thread for fun and it's quite literally insane. I'd like Taylor Swift well enough. I'm not a super fan but I do really admire her..

But it's absolutely insane to me the idea of calling a 35 year old woman washed up, has been, spent. It's so misogynist I just can't even wrap my head around it.

Is it possible to just dislike an artist without being so deeply offensive to women who have worked hard to make such a spectacular career?

It’s not misogyny. Male pop singers are generally washed up by their mid 30s too. Creative prime is teens thru late 20s. Everyone knows this. Why do you think singers lie about their ages? It’s a young man/woman’s industry. Also why Swift is orbiting much younger and organically more popular girls like Carpenter, Rodrigo, and Eilish.

If she did another year and a half of the eras tour it would surely sell out as her last one did. If that is washed up to you then I don’t know what you consider to be someone’s prime.

Swift's creative prime was probably... 2006 to 2015? Everything after is just tons of studio money buying the "it" hottest pop producers to manufacture faux hit songs they can astroturf to her brainwashed base.

midnights and ttpd were masterpieces. The new albulm looks like junk based on lyric leaks, but her artistic peak was just her last two albums.

I would include Folklore and Evermore as masterpieces as well. Really hoping the new album isn’t a letdown.

+1. TTPD, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights are her best albums, by far. I also like Lover (love Death By a Thousand Cuts!) and some songs on Reputation. What they all have in common is the same producer and collaborator, Jack Antonoff, and the same influence and muse, Matty Healy. Without them, I fear her new album will be just trite pop "bangers."
I am keeping an open mind though and hope she proves me wrong.

Not just Jack Antonoff, but also Aaron Dessner. Both of those guys have produced/ collaborated on her most outstanding work. I’ll miss their chemistry, but hopefully it’s not the last time they’ll collaborate.

Jack did very little on reputation. Max Martin and shellback are who she worked with, and for this next album she’s going back to them. They’re also total legends and it’s impossible for me to believe that these three creative geniuses are going to put out crap. The album is going to be good. It may not be everyone’s taste, but it is objectively going to have some good songs and o don’t see how these three are not going to be successful.

Sure, but Jack and Aaron were her main collaborators on her last four albums, which were all fantastic. Max Martin and Shellback are great too, but they don’t have the depth that the other two do. At any rate, hoping for the best.

1989 and reputation are absolutely legendary Taylor Swift albums that people go apeshit for. Max and Shellback both worked on both of those. Not to mention 100 other top artist that have iconic songs because of them.

I like Jack and Aaron, but I’m really looking forward to this. I definitely think she needs a break from Jack and I liked what Aaron did on the the last few albums, but I really want some pop bangers. I’m so ready for this.

Np. I just wish she could sing

It seems she sings well enough. No one, not even TS, claims she's got the best pipes.

Don’t be so defensive, crazy lady!

[Anonymous]

Yeah I get it’s purely me but I’m so tired of everything being about sxx. I would’ve hoped now that T has so much power, she would be less interested in sxx sells. I’m not saying it’s shocking or wrong, I’m just tired of it.

[Anonymous]

For a pop singer she has surprisingly few songs about s-x. As an PP said, she’s 35. I dunno… maybe she’s having a good time in the bedroom. Good for her.

[Anonymous]

Do you guys remember being in your mid 30s? This woman is getting railed by someone who actually towers over her for the first time in her life in the peak of sexuality. And it shows.

The showgirl theme isn't new for her (Bejeweled Video and I Can Do It With A Broken Heart during Eras, etc.) but now she has an entire album based on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does a showgirl have to be barely dressed

I always appreciated that she wasn’t “sexy”. Obv she can do what she wants but going doggy style in the album cover

Maybe that’s her midlife crisis? “Once I fix me, he's gonna miss me”? Taylor probably wishes she were edgier and more of a rebel than she actually is, and the risqué cover photos are her way of chasing that.

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Anonymous wrote:For a pop singer she has surprisingly few songs about s-x. As an PP said, she’s 35. I dunno… maybe she’s having a good time in the bedroom. Good for her.

Wait till her new album. She has a song that is basically pubs about dicks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does a showgirl have to be barely dressed

I always appreciated that she wasn’t “sexy”. Obv she can do what she wants but going doggy style in the album cover

Maybe that’s her midlife crisis? “Once I fix me, he's gonna miss me”? Taylor probably wishes she were edgier and more of a rebel than she actually is, and the risqué cover photos are her way of chasing that.

+1.
“You said normal girls were boring,
And you were gone by the morning.”

She is trying really hard to show us how non-boring she is.

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Just want to say that even if the new album is a letdown, I’ll still be cheering it, because she just keeps doing the most important thing an artist can do, which is putting out new work. It’s incredible how prolific she is, and how no matter what else is going on in her life, or the world, she just keeps making new things. It’s remarkable.

[Anonymous]

Taylor and Travis are engaged!!!

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Love the ring.

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Im sooooooo happy!!

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Does this mean the relationship isn't fake?