Looks like a new Gaza war has started

Anonymous
Ugh. Someone fire this guy and I'm not pro Trump. But Biden sounds like such an idiot..
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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Someone fire this guy and I'm not pro Trump. But Biden sounds like such an idiot..


He is. Imagine if Trump said this . The media would throw a fit
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Anonymous wrote:We do not know and will not know who bombed the hospital. If you believe it was Hamas, then so be it, just acknowledge that evidence says you can believe otherwise too


Initial evidence from the explosion at Gaza's Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital yesterday appeared to be "inconsistent with an airstrike" and "far more consistent with a small projectile failing", says Nathan Ruser, an expert from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

But he says there are "a lot of difficulties" in fully attributing the cause of the blast without seeing details and remains of the munition used.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4 earlier today, he said the small crater at the scene of the explosion was inconsistent with an airstrike, as was the extent and type of damage to nearby cars - and he said the "typical puff of concrete dust" often seen after airstrikes on Gaza was "absent".

Ruser said most of the damage at the scene appeared to have been caused by fire, which he said would be consistent "with a rocket that had a lot of fuel and propellant in it".

Ruser added that's it's "incredibly tricky" to get reliable information out of Gaza, and the amount of disinformation around the conflict is "almost staggering".

He said both sides "have a track record of not necessarily providing the honest truth" and although information from journalists on the ground has helped add to the picture, "I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened


Blah, blah, blah. I know it is upsetting to many people, but Israel did not do this.
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Anonymous wrote:All because of the Big Lie. This is what happens when terrorists declare a Day of Unparalleled Anger.



This is what happens when you let terrorists walk across your border and you respond by targeting refugees convoys and hospitals. Wait till the ground war starts. That will break Egypt neutral support for Israel. You think this is not going to be a sh#t show all through the ME. There will be a total realignment, minimum a few assassinations of heads of state(Saudi and Egypt) and it will not favor Israel.

Now let’s talk about those leftist democrats, BLM and students who support Palestinians. Oh they are so evil and the cause of all these problems for Israel! If only we can silence those people everything will be fine.
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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Someone fire this guy and I'm not pro Trump. But Biden sounds like such an idiot..


He is. Imagine if Trump said this . The media would throw a fit


I mean, it’s ambiguous, no? Is he mocking terrorists’ tragic incompetence? Or is she suggesting they improve their aim. Very odd and confusing.
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Anonymous wrote:So is this hospital incident the flame that’s going to cause BLM/George Floyd nationwide protests this weekend like summer of 2020?


Israel is lost . Most Gen Z in the West have Muslim friends who were born and grew up here since their parents had to you know emigrate.

How stupid can one country be to not realize the tides were always shifting to Palestinian sympathy even during the last Gaza war in 2014? Remember the flotilla and divest from Israel campaigns ?

They should’ve seen the left’s pro Palestinian slant burgeoning years and years ago


Man, you are profoundly out of touch.


I’m not profoundly out of touch. I’m profoundly anxious.

This situation is getting scarier and scarier by the minute and is a powder keg.

Putin would love nothing more than to see the West divide over Israel vs Palestine and that’s what is likely to happen since both our president and Israel’s keep making dumb decisions that are helping Putin and Hamas


Your anxiety is telling you if Israel is destroyed, the terrorism stops. Unfortunately for all who believe this, you will get a huge dose of reality


What? I am pro-Israel surviving.

Israeli and Zionist arrogance and tunnel vision has not helped Israel. Pay attention to the room. It’s changed . You can keep saying most America is overwhelmingly pro Israel but from my vantage point that’s not true.

Americans are notoriously wishy washy and go with the wind and Israel being popular among Americans is only true among boomers and those over 35.

Academia is very left wing now. All across the country, there were pro Palestinian rallies this week even in Texas and harassment of Jewish students. I know some that have withdrawn

Pay attention . This is a very dangerous situation



DP - the bolded may be true, but our administration is still overwhelmingly supportive of Israel. We’ve given Israel billions of dollars in aid. Our Secretary of State told Netanyahu that he came to support Israel not just in his official role, but as a Jew. Harassment and targeting of Jews in this country is never, ever acceptable - but random protests in support of Palestinians are nothing compared to the public, official support for Israel.


It is very typical of US foreign policy to highlight personal connections. Most appointed Ambassadors share heritage with the home country. I agree, the official support of Israel in reaction to Hamas' horrifying attack has been strong, and IMO, totally appropriate given the circumstance.
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Anonymous wrote:We do not know and will not know who bombed the hospital. If you believe it was Hamas, then so be it, just acknowledge that evidence says you can believe otherwise too


Initial evidence from the explosion at Gaza's Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital yesterday appeared to be "inconsistent with an airstrike" and "far more consistent with a small projectile failing", says Nathan Ruser, an expert from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

But he says there are "a lot of difficulties" in fully attributing the cause of the blast without seeing details and remains of the munition used.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4 earlier today, he said the small crater at the scene of the explosion was inconsistent with an airstrike, as was the extent and type of damage to nearby cars - and he said the "typical puff of concrete dust" often seen after airstrikes on Gaza was "absent".

Ruser said most of the damage at the scene appeared to have been caused by fire, which he said would be consistent "with a rocket that had a lot of fuel and propellant in it".

Ruser added that's it's "incredibly tricky" to get reliable information out of Gaza, and the amount of disinformation around the conflict is "almost staggering".

He said both sides "have a track record of not necessarily providing the honest truth" and although information from journalists on the ground has helped add to the picture, "I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened


Blah, blah, blah. I know it is upsetting to many people, but Israel did not do this.


It would be more respectable if Israel just stood on their original admission and said we bombed a hospital because Hamas may have possibly been inside. The lies and deception and deep fakes afterward were not needed and makes the distrust for Israelis deeper
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Someone fire this guy and I'm not pro Trump. But Biden sounds like such an idiot..


Meanwhile what was Trump doing? *checks notes* Trump was calling Hezbollah "smart."

If I had to choose--and I will--Biden is a million times better.
Anonymous
Why are MAGA trolls on this thread? I understand the pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian ones. At least they have an ethos.
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Anonymous wrote:All because of the Big Lie. This is what happens when terrorists declare a Day of Unparalleled Anger.



This is what happens when you let terrorists walk across your border and you respond by targeting refugees convoys and hospitals. Wait till the ground war starts. That will break Egypt neutral support for Israel. You think this is not going to be a sh#t show all through the ME. There will be a total realignment, minimum a few assassinations of heads of state(Saudi and Egypt) and it will not favor Israel.

Now let’s talk about those leftist democrats, BLM and students who support Palestinians. Oh they are so evil and the cause of all these problems for Israel! If only we can silence those people everything will be fine.


Tunisia is a mess. Has been for a long while. I am sorry for the loss of the Torah, but these days of rage are mostly ridiculous spectacle.
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Anonymous wrote:We do not know and will not know who bombed the hospital. If you believe it was Hamas, then so be it, just acknowledge that evidence says you can believe otherwise too


Initial evidence from the explosion at Gaza's Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital yesterday appeared to be "inconsistent with an airstrike" and "far more consistent with a small projectile failing", says Nathan Ruser, an expert from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

But he says there are "a lot of difficulties" in fully attributing the cause of the blast without seeing details and remains of the munition used.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4 earlier today, he said the small crater at the scene of the explosion was inconsistent with an airstrike, as was the extent and type of damage to nearby cars - and he said the "typical puff of concrete dust" often seen after airstrikes on Gaza was "absent".

Ruser said most of the damage at the scene appeared to have been caused by fire, which he said would be consistent "with a rocket that had a lot of fuel and propellant in it".

Ruser added that's it's "incredibly tricky" to get reliable information out of Gaza, and the amount of disinformation around the conflict is "almost staggering".

He said both sides "have a track record of not necessarily providing the honest truth" and although information from journalists on the ground has helped add to the picture, "I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened


Blah, blah, blah. I know it is upsetting to many people, but Israel did not do this.


It would be more respectable if Israel just stood on their original admission and said we bombed a hospital because Hamas may have possibly been inside. The lies and deception and deep fakes afterward were not needed and makes the distrust for Israelis deeper


They didn't bomb a hospital. In fact, the hospital itself was not bombed.
All evidence that has been presented points to an errant missile from Gaza. Are the IDF in Gaza shooting off missiles?
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Anonymous wrote:WTH? Is this the stupidest comment ever?
I didn't believe he actually said this, but he did.





My military spouse was also annoyed by 'the other team' comment. I am not a huge Biden fan, but this is how he talks. He's "just folks" , like Bill Clinton.Is it a bit of the Irish blarney? I'm not going to jump all over it. Also, I'm super proud of him for showing up.


Bill Clinton was a great orator. “just folks” was Dubya Bush


I thought Bill was kind of "just folks" too when he wasn't giving a soaring speech. Wasn't he the great connector...he had some nickname. Yes, you're right though. Dubya was. Different than Biden though. Biden leaves you scratching your head a lot.
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Anonymous wrote:All because of the Big Lie. This is what happens when terrorists declare a Day of Unparalleled Anger.



This is what happens when you let terrorists walk across your border and you respond by targeting refugees convoys and hospitals. Wait till the ground war starts. That will break Egypt neutral support for Israel. You think this is not going to be a sh#t show all through the ME. There will be a total realignment, minimum a few assassinations of heads of state(Saudi and Egypt) and it will not favor Israel.

Now let’s talk about those leftist democrats, BLM and students who support Palestinians. Oh they are so evil and the cause of all these problems for Israel! If only we can silence those people everything will be fine.


Tunisia is a mess. Has been for a long while. I am sorry for the loss of the Torah, but these days of rage are mostly ridiculous spectacle.


The way American Jews feel about Israelis being slaughtered by Hamas is exactly how Muslims around the world feel about Palestinians being slaughtered by Israel.
You don’t understand their pain? It’s the same pain a Jewish person is feeling right now
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We do not know and will not know who bombed the hospital. If you believe it was Hamas, then so be it, just acknowledge that evidence says you can believe otherwise too


Initial evidence from the explosion at Gaza's Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital yesterday appeared to be "inconsistent with an airstrike" and "far more consistent with a small projectile failing", says Nathan Ruser, an expert from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

But he says there are "a lot of difficulties" in fully attributing the cause of the blast without seeing details and remains of the munition used.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4 earlier today, he said the small crater at the scene of the explosion was inconsistent with an airstrike, as was the extent and type of damage to nearby cars - and he said the "typical puff of concrete dust" often seen after airstrikes on Gaza was "absent".

Ruser said most of the damage at the scene appeared to have been caused by fire, which he said would be consistent "with a rocket that had a lot of fuel and propellant in it".

Ruser added that's it's "incredibly tricky" to get reliable information out of Gaza, and the amount of disinformation around the conflict is "almost staggering".

He said both sides "have a track record of not necessarily providing the honest truth" and although information from journalists on the ground has helped add to the picture, "I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened


Blah, blah, blah. I know it is upsetting to many people, but Israel did not do this.


It would be more respectable if Israel just stood on their original admission and said we bombed a hospital because Hamas may have possibly been inside. The lies and deception and deep fakes afterward were not needed and makes the distrust for Israelis deeper


Well, listen to the US then. No tin foil hat. Blame Hamas ally for the loss of innocent lived.
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Anonymous wrote:All because of the Big Lie. This is what happens when terrorists declare a Day of Unparalleled Anger.



This is what happens when you let terrorists walk across your border and you respond by targeting refugees convoys and hospitals. Wait till the ground war starts. That will break Egypt neutral support for Israel. You think this is not going to be a sh#t show all through the ME. There will be a total realignment, minimum a few assassinations of heads of state(Saudi and Egypt) and it will not favor Israel.

Now let’s talk about those leftist democrats, BLM and students who support Palestinians. Oh they are so evil and the cause of all these problems for Israel! If only we can silence those people everything will be fine.


Israel did not target that convoy.

You are absolutely horrible.
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