Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

one poll showed that more voters would blame Biden for the shutdown than they would Republicans. Gulp.

[Anonymous]

So what are predictions now that the shutdown will extend past Monday?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Senate just reached a bipartisan deal to avoid a government shutdown! That’s very important. The ball is now in the House’s court. The pressure to go along with it will be huge.

I hate that I have to disagree. The Senate has already long passed appropriations as well. It did nothing to move a single bill in the house.

Nope this is a non starter In the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Senate just reached a bipartisan deal to avoid a government shutdown! That’s very important. The ball is now in the House’s court. The pressure to go along with it will be huge.

I hate that I have to disagree. The Senate has already long passed appropriations as well. It did nothing to move a single bill in the house.

so nothing burger still?

Yes. The problems are freedom caucus won't vote for anything that isn't draconian. McCarthy can't do a bipartisan bill because freedom caucus will remove him. Any speculation that Democrats will both a) save the Republicans and b) save McCarthy, the two things needed for a house bipartisan cr, seems unfounded.

The only two ways out I see are: freedom caucus caves or Republicans give Dems deep concessions. Neither are likely without pain

But even if Republicans give Dems deep concessions, i.e., enough Dems in the House vote to pass it, members of the FC have said they’ll file a motion to remove McCarthy as speaker. Right? So it seems like the only ways out are either the FC caves or McCarthy caves, knowing he’ll likely be removed as speaker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:one poll showed that more voters would blame Biden for the shutdown than they would Republicans. Gulp.

One poll- hard to take that seriously

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Senate just reached a bipartisan deal to avoid a government shutdown! That’s very important. The ball is now in the House’s court. The pressure to go along with it will be huge.

I hate that I have to disagree. The Senate has already long passed appropriations as well. It did nothing to move a single bill in the house.

so nothing burger still?

Yes. The problems are freedom caucus won't vote for anything that isn't draconian. McCarthy can't do a bipartisan bill because freedom caucus will remove him. Any speculation that Democrats will both a) save the Republicans and b) save McCarthy, the two things needed for a house bipartisan cr, seems unfounded.

The only two ways out I see are: freedom caucus caves or Republicans give Dems deep concessions. Neither are likely without pain

But even if Republicans give Dems deep concessions, i.e., enough Dems in the House vote to pass it, members of the FC have said they’ll file a motion to remove McCarthy as speaker. Right? So it seems like the only ways out are either the FC caves or McCarthy caves, knowing he’ll likely be removed as speaker.

But does FC have enough GOP votes to remove McCarthy? They've been threatening this repeatedly and never pull the trigger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 during the last shut down the feds in my school community were treated to multiple breakfasts, thousands of dollars worth of gift cards, clothing, gas, free groceries and more. The contractors and non-feds who were also out of work got nothing. The feds ended up getting repaid but the others did not. It left a bad taste in my mouth, and I spoke up about it when it was happening, but my suggestions fell on deaf ears that it should only be feds. So as an outsider, I think I have compassion for feds, especially lower paid employees, but maintain perspective because other people won’t be getting a paycheck at the end of the day.

The last several Fed government shutdowns, life was normal for government workers that live in the McLean/Langley area from what I could tell.

No, we weren't fine. Yes, my brother thought we were dummies for being stressed and broke because of the 35 day shutdown. Well, we weren't.

1) the last long one didn’t impact everyone - my agency was unaffected, I barely recall the shutdown

2) feds living in that area - and I’m one of them - are generally high up in GS or other level, dual income and possibly married to someone with a higher salary and possibly used to make higher salaries like at a law firm. We aren’t exactly the typical federal worker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McCarthy says he thinks he can negotiate a CR with his caucus, and the Senate says they will start working on one as well. Seems like this is overblown and the government likely won't shut down.

Are you getting your news from a parallel universe?

you know, i'm all for science exploration and research, but man has this timeline been fubar ever since that weasel got stuck in the hadron collider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Senate just reached a bipartisan deal to avoid a government shutdown! That’s very important. The ball is now in the House’s court. The pressure to go along with it will be huge.

I hate that I have to disagree. The Senate has already long passed appropriations as well. It did nothing to move a single bill in the house.

so nothing burger still?

Yes. The problems are freedom caucus won't vote for anything that isn't draconian. McCarthy can't do a bipartisan bill because freedom caucus will remove him. Any speculation that Democrats will both a) save the Republicans and b) save McCarthy, the two things needed for a house bipartisan cr, seems unfounded.

The only two ways out I see are: freedom caucus caves or Republicans give Dems deep concessions. Neither are likely without pain

But even if Republicans give Dems deep concessions, i.e., enough Dems in the House vote to pass it, members of the FC have said they’ll file a motion to remove McCarthy as speaker. Right? So it seems like the only ways out are either the FC caves or McCarthy caves, knowing he’ll likely be removed as speaker.

But does FC have enough GOP votes to remove McCarthy? They've been threatening this repeatedly and never pull the trigger.

Maybe? It sounds like they could force a vote and he couldn’t afford to lose them all. The Dems *could*, in theory, vote to support him as speaker, but…

What a cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:one poll showed that more voters would blame Biden for the shutdown than they would Republicans. Gulp.

Which poll?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McCarthy says he thinks he can negotiate a CR with his caucus, and the Senate says they will start working on one as well. Seems like this is overblown and the government likely won't shut down.

Are you getting your news from a parallel universe?

you know, i'm all for science exploration and research, but man has this timeline been fubar ever since that weasel got stuck in the hadron collider.

LOL TYVM

[Anonymous]

I am a Fed married to an EVP in finance and DH wants to see the government shutdown so that he can take time off to spend with me.

[Anonymous]

This is a small sign a shutdown might not be as inevitable as we’ve thought.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4224579-house-gop-advances-four-spending-bills-after-failed-attempts/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a small sign a shutdown might not be as inevitable as we’ve thought.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4224579-house-gop-advances-four-spending-bills-after-failed-attempts/

The bills they are agreeing to debate - not even pass! - have no chance of passing Senate.

[Anonymous]

After the events of Tuesday - the first day back- have settled, are people leaning more towards there being a shutdown?