Republicans and the debt ceiling

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even with that offer, the hard right said they won't support it, so McCarthy has two options:

1) tank the economy
2) get 10 democrats to side with some moderate offer in exchange for supporting his speakership.

Is that the story line now? I thought you said there are no offers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

He certainly managed to own the GOP at the state of the union where soscial security was concerned, and the fact the GOP is breaking that pledge now makes an easy commercial for 2024.

Fact is, most of the US isn't paying any attention to this and will simply blame the president, regardless of party.

Congress has always been blamed for past government shutdowns and will be blamed for a default.

McCarthy knows this and knows there will be a Blue Tsunami on the first Tuesday in Nov. 2024 if there is a default.

He's already sold his soul to the Devil 😈 and it will be interesting to see how he gets the MAGA crazies in board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he’s offered nothing then?

That is the offer.

There's a 1.5T spending cut bill on the table. If you don't like it, don't agree to it.

Don't care. Let's Thelma and Louise this.

So McCarthy is just threatening to crash the economy and hurt tens of millions of Americans unless he gets what he wants, and he won’t give up a single thing to get it. Got it.

Kinda sounds like Biden has the same position.

Wait until interest on the debt can't be paid. That will hurt America too. You seem to have no concept of reasonable government spending and want a womb to tomb welfare state. Well, the math says no.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he’s offered nothing then?

That is the offer.

There's a 1.5T spending cut bill on the table. If you don't like it, don't agree to it.

Don't care. Let's Thelma and Louise this.

So McCarthy is just threatening to crash the economy and hurt tens of millions of Americans unless he gets what he wants, and he won’t give up a single thing to get it. Got it.

Kinda sounds like Biden has the same position.

Wait until interest on the debt can't be paid. That will hurt America too. You seem to have no concept of reasonable government spending and want a womb to tomb welfare state. Well, the math says no.

Biden has offered a number of deficit reductions, including freezing spending for 2 years and making across the board cuts. McCarthy has rejected all of those concessions. The only one refusing to negotiate is McCarthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he’s offered nothing then?

That is the offer.

There's a 1.5T spending cut bill on the table. If you don't like it, don't agree to it.

Don't care. Let's Thelma and Louise this.

So McCarthy is just threatening to crash the economy and hurt tens of millions of Americans unless he gets what he wants, and he won’t give up a single thing to get it. Got it.

Kinda sounds like Biden has the same position.

Wait until interest on the debt can't be paid. That will hurt America too. You seem to have no concept of reasonable government spending and want a womb to tomb welfare state. Well, the math says no.

You seem to be fine with the country creating billionaires and then having those same US Oligarchs not pay their fair share of taxes. Why are you that much of a sucker?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

[Anonymous]

For the folks on the right, ask yourself, who benefits if the US Economy crashes. Who benefits if the Dollar is degraded?

Answer: China and Russia

So...why is the GOP hell bent on tanking the economy for basically no reason, to benefit China and Russia?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he’s offered nothing then?

That is the offer.

There's a 1.5T spending cut bill on the table. If you don't like it, don't agree to it.

Don't care. Let's Thelma and Louise this.

So McCarthy is just threatening to crash the economy and hurt tens of millions of Americans unless he gets what he wants, and he won’t give up a single thing to get it. Got it.

Kinda sounds like Biden has the same position.

Wait until interest on the debt can't be paid. That will hurt America too. You seem to have no concept of reasonable government spending and want a womb to tomb welfare state. Well, the math says no.

You seem to be fine with the country creating billionaires and then having those same US Oligarchs not pay their fair share of taxes. Why are you that much of a sucker?

Let's start with the Bidens paying their taxes on all of those "transactions" run through nameless LLC's with other countries.

[Anonymous]

Was a discharge petition put together? How many moderate Republicans are left? Surely there's at least 5 that would vote to not destroy the economy and upend the world

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

Quite the opposite - I feel quality of life go down so after cuts to essential government employees …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

You might not miss it. But grandma getting her medicare and social security would. The rural farmer awaiting their prescription through the mail would miss it. The people sitting in an airport because flights were cancelled due to a lack of air traffic controllers would miss it. The truckers who depend on smooth roads would miss it. I could go on. But you will never acknowledge it so I won't bother.