Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

That has nothing to do with what the PP said
You're part of the neurosis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voluntarily trapped….


Hahahah

It's more than "voluntarily trapped" think about it.

What 8th grade team coach wants to deal with losing 9th grade (playing down Aug/Sept birthdays) that leave the team for 2-4 months during the high school season?

Coachrs wont roster the play downs because having a winning season is how they keep their job.

.

What's a 8th grade team coach?
Never heard of that

Travel Soccer goes by calendar age groups, no?

You're just saying things to be argumentative.

Even under BY because most of the players will be a certain grade that is the grade team it represents. However SY is different 99.9% of all players will be a certain grade. Because of this and because college recruiters/coaches will look at teams by grade so will everyone else.

You can sit there saying "technically" or "actually" this is a SY 8/1-7/31 seasonal year team. People will look at you weird and walk away.

My kids are U18 and U16 in MLS Next

They have been in travel soccer since U7 and I've never heard a coach or club refer to their teams by school grades

Why would it stop being U13 and U12 and U15?

MLS is BY and has biobanding. You likely wouldn't hear about teams grouped by grade in this environment because they're specifically looking to not group by grade.

SY is getting closer to grouping by grade. So since none of the SY leagues currently allow biobanding you'll start hearing grade level team more and more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

That has nothing to do with what the PP said
You're part of the neurosis

You provide nothing to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

This isn’t true. Even in Europe most counties group their grades by BY and also use the same groupings for soccer. England groups grades with a cutoff of 9/1 and also does the same for soccer. The date school starts for the year is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

*countries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

You're arguing on an anonymous regional message board about youth soccer. This isn't representative of anything and drawing a conclusion based on what you see here is just ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

This isn’t true. Even in Europe most counties group their grades by BY and also use the same groupings for soccer. England groups grades with a cutoff of 9/1 and also does the same for soccer. The date school starts for the year is irrelevant.

You need to reread what I wrote. Its 100% true and I explained why every European and Latin American team groups by BY not SY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

This isn’t true. Even in Europe most counties group their grades by BY and also use the same groupings for soccer. England groups grades with a cutoff of 9/1 and also does the same for soccer. The date school starts for the year is irrelevant.

You need to reread what I wrote. Its 100% true and I explained why every European and Latin American team groups by BY not SY.

Except fir England

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

You're arguing on an anonymous regional message board about youth soccer. This isn't representative of anything and drawing a conclusion based on what you see here is just ignorant.

You do realize the very thread you're on is proof of the drama the PP stated? 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

That has nothing to do with what the PP said
You're part of the neurosis

You provide nothing to the discussion.

What did your sentence provide to the discussion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

in the rest of the world school start date and the age kids start school are different things. This is why everyone else uses BY.

Here's how it works. Legally parents need to start when they reach a certain age. It doesnt matter when school starts during that year.

This is why everyone uses BY. It makes it so soccer level is 100% independent from school start date. Which makes sense when colleges dont get involved with sports and theres no push/reason to group players by grade in school.

That has nothing to do with what the PP said
You're part of the neurosis

You provide nothing to the discussion.

What did your sentence provide to the discussion?

You are idiot the equivalent of "I know you are. But what am I?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voluntarily trapped….


Hahahah

It's more than "voluntarily trapped" think about it.

What 8th grade team coach wants to deal with losing 9th grade (playing down Aug/Sept birthdays) that leave the team for 2-4 months during the high school season?

Coachrs wont roster the play downs because having a winning season is how they keep their job.

.

What's a 8th grade team coach?
Never heard of that

Travel Soccer goes by calendar age groups, no?

You're just saying things to be argumentative.

Even under BY because most of the players will be a certain grade that is the grade team it represents. However SY is different 99.9% of all players will be a certain grade. Because of this and because college recruiters/coaches will look at teams by grade so will everyone else.

You can sit there saying "technically" or "actually" this is a SY 8/1-7/31 seasonal year team. People will look at you weird and walk away.

My kids are U18 and U16 in MLS Next

They have been in travel soccer since U7 and I've never heard a coach or club refer to their teams by school grades

Why would it stop being U13 and U12 and U15?

MLS is BY and has biobanding. You likely wouldn't hear about teams grouped by grade in this environment because they're specifically looking to not group by grade.

SY is getting closer to grouping by grade. So since none of the SY leagues currently allow biobanding you'll start hearing grade level team more and more.

Can someone pull a soccer tournament schedule and results from the past that list the bracket groups by school grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.

You're arguing on an anonymous regional message board about youth soccer. This isn't representative of anything and drawing a conclusion based on what you see here is just ignorant.

You do realize the very thread you're on is proof of the drama the PP stated? 😂

No, I know what I'm doing, you think you're somehow providing insight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voluntarily trapped….


Hahahah

It's more than "voluntarily trapped" think about it.

What 8th grade team coach wants to deal with losing 9th grade (playing down Aug/Sept birthdays) that leave the team for 2-4 months during the high school season?

Coachrs wont roster the play downs because having a winning season is how they keep their job.

.

What's a 8th grade team coach?
Never heard of that

Travel Soccer goes by calendar age groups, no?

You're just saying things to be argumentative.

Even under BY because most of the players will be a certain grade that is the grade team it represents. However SY is different 99.9% of all players will be a certain grade. Because of this and because college recruiters/coaches will look at teams by grade so will everyone else.

You can sit there saying "technically" or "actually" this is a SY 8/1-7/31 seasonal year team. People will look at you weird and walk away.

My kids are U18 and U16 in MLS Next

They have been in travel soccer since U7 and I've never heard a coach or club refer to their teams by school grades

Why would it stop being U13 and U12 and U15?

MLS is BY and has biobanding. You likely wouldn't hear about teams grouped by grade in this environment because they're specifically looking to not group by grade.

SY is getting closer to grouping by grade. So since none of the SY leagues currently allow biobanding you'll start hearing grade level team more and more.

Can someone pull a soccer tournament schedule and results from the past that list the bracket groups by school grade

Before switching to BY tournaments were grouped like this...

u14 u15 u16 u17 u18/u19