Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.


No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.


I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"


That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

Nobody believes you.


I believe them, because I have the exact same issue with you ruining every thread. And yes, this is a different poster and if you want Jeff to verify, please do it so he can ban you. Please, just keep your ramblings to one place. You're entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to screw up every single thread.
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

So you admit that there will be "less" movement on older teams. But you also say that there will be movement.

Ridiculious discussing things with someone that speaks out of both sides of their mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

Just admit that you're a littles parent and dont understand how things work with olders teams. Instead of being a know it all sit back and learn.
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

So you admit that there will be "less" movement on older teams. But you also say that there will be movement.

Ridiculious discussing things with someone that speaks out of both sides of their mouth.



Less does not equal zero the last time I checked? It is certainly possible for their to be 'less' of something and not zero. For example, I feel like have 'less' brain cells every time I respond to the famous Delusional August Guy. Please take your pills.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.


No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.


I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"


That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

Nobody believes you.


I believe them, because I have the exact same issue with you ruining every thread. And yes, this is a different poster and if you want Jeff to verify, please do it so he can ban you. Please, just keep your ramblings to one place. You're entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to screw up every single thread.

I think you should pretend like you are Jeff again + threaten to ban people.

Then when you get called out (just like what happened before) pretend like it didnt happen.
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

So you admit that there will be "less" movement on older teams. But you also say that there will be movement.

Ridiculious discussing things with someone that speaks out of both sides of their mouth.



Less does not equal zero the last time I checked? It is certainly possible for their to be 'less' of something and not zero. For example, I feel like have 'less' brain cells every time I respond to the famous Delusional August Guy. Please take your pills.

So what you're saying is that older clubs will stay mostly the same because there will be "less" changes.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.


No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.


I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"


That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

Nobody believes you.


I believe them, because I have the exact same issue with you ruining every thread. And yes, this is a different poster and if you want Jeff to verify, please do it so he can ban you. Please, just keep your ramblings to one place. You're entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to screw up every single thread.

I think you should pretend like you are Jeff again + threaten to ban people.

Then when you get called out (just like what happened before) pretend like it didnt happen.


I don't even know what you are talking about - the fact that other people have the same issue should be a wake up call
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This is just like Y2K

People freaked out, did all these things thinking something big was going to happen then they woke up and the calendar changed to 1/1/2000 and we kept going.
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

So you admit that there will be "less" movement on older teams. But you also say that there will be movement.

Ridiculious discussing things with someone that speaks out of both sides of their mouth.



Less does not equal zero the last time I checked? It is certainly possible for their to be 'less' of something and not zero. For example, I feel like have 'less' brain cells every time I respond to the famous Delusional August Guy. Please take your pills.

So what you're saying is that older clubs will stay mostly the same because there will be "less" changes.


What is mostly? More than 50% returning players? Hell, most teams will be mostly the same (50+% returning players). Why would they not be?

That doesn't mean that the clubs won't reform all of their teams to the new age guidelines, because that is exactly what they are going to do. It is bizarre to think otherwise. All you have to do is go look at what occurred last time.
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Anonymous wrote:This is just like Y2K

People freaked out, did all these things thinking something big was going to happen then they woke up and the calendar changed to 1/1/2000 and we kept going.


I agree. I think a lot of people are in the 'bargaining' phase of grief right now: "When we experience grief, we often feel hopeless and overwhelmed. It is common to be overcome by statements of "what if" and "if only," as we experience a loss of control over what is happening. During the bargaining stage of grief, a person attempts to negotiate or make compromises"

But, this will be just like last time. Tryouts will come around, teams will be re-formed under the new age brackets and that will be that. We will have reached "Acceptance".
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Anonymous wrote:This is just like Y2K

People freaked out, did all these things thinking something big was going to happen then they woke up and the calendar changed to 1/1/2000 and we kept going.

Whats being argued about is a little different.

The person argueing about only grouping by date and not playing up is doing it because they want GY Showcases in the future. (This let's holdbacks play down)

The person arguting for grouping players by grade and date is doing it because they dont want GY Showcases in the future.

If leagues implement a rule (or even a recommendation) that players younger than the eligibility window play with their grade all teams will be grouped by grade but without holdbacks. This would make GY Showcases impossible to implement because teams are already grouped by grade.
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Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.


They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams


There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.


Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?


Because that is what they do. They did it last time too. They still hold tryouts and add/remove players for teams in the last 3 years of play at a club all the time. This is no different. There may be less movement when compared to the younger groups (as there are usually just few players at that point).

So you admit that there will be "less" movement on older teams. But you also say that there will be movement.

Ridiculious discussing things with someone that speaks out of both sides of their mouth.



Less does not equal zero the last time I checked? It is certainly possible for their to be 'less' of something and not zero. For example, I feel like have 'less' brain cells every time I respond to the famous Delusional August Guy. Please take your pills.

So what you're saying is that older clubs will stay mostly the same because there will be "less" changes.


What is mostly? More than 50% returning players? Hell, most teams will be mostly the same (50+% returning players). Why would they not be?

That doesn't mean that the clubs won't reform all of their teams to the new age guidelines, because that is exactly what they are going to do. It is bizarre to think otherwise. All you have to do is go look at what occurred last time.

Last time involved playing up.

This time it will be playing down.

The two are very different because of their affects on teams.
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In the rest of the world, parents would tell their kids that the age cutoff is changing from January 1st to August 1st

Kids would showup next season to the team where they belong and continue to play soccer

Only here this would be never ending drama.
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Hahahah

It's more than "voluntarily trapped" think about it.

What 8th grade team coach wants to deal with losing 9th grade (playing down Aug/Sept birthdays) that leave the team for 2-4 months during the high school season?

Coachrs wont roster the play downs because having a winning season is how they keep their job.
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What's a 8th grade team coach?
Never heard of that

Travel Soccer goes by calendar age groups, no?

You're just saying things to be argumentative.

Even under BY because most of the players will be a certain grade that is the grade team it represents. However SY is different 99.9% of all players will be a certain grade. Because of this and because college recruiters/coaches will look at teams by grade so will everyone else.

You can sit there saying "technically" or "actually" this is a SY 8/1-7/31 seasonal year team. People will look at you weird and walk away.


My kids are U18 and U16 in MLS Next

They have been in travel soccer since U7 and I've never heard a coach or club refer to their teams by school grades

Why would it stop being U13 and U12 and U15?
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