Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

Can you explain what this insurance is, and why he can't get it?

DP. Making movies is incredibly expensive. INCREDIBLY expensive. Most movie production sets are insured so say, they lost a month of filming to a hurricane, the studio isn't totally out. Almost all big actors get insurance because its incredibly expensive if something happens to an actor mid film. Like say, they injure their finger and shut down production for four weeks.

These insurance companies evaluate movie projects the same way your car insurance evaluates you. Johnny Depp is like a 22 year old boy with 5 DUIs. They won't insure him to drive.

Did he screw up production in one of his last movies?

Yes, he cost Disney $$$$$$$ on pirates 4. The hand incident happened then and shut down production for a month. And that was AFTER showing up hours late and frequently drunk for much of the rest of filming. And like every SINGLE hour on a set matters and costs money.

Gee, his BPD wife cut his finger off. He was going through a rough relationship that's ended now. I don't see how that moment in time can be held against him.

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Anonymous wrote:Might be first time I have agreed with HS’s take on things …

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I wish you would have spelled out HS's name. I would not have clicked on that click bait to hear that POS opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

First of all, if he cleaned up he’d likely lose some of the weight and bloat. He still has amazing bone structure. Most importantly he is a talented actor. He’s never needed youthful roles to display that talent as he always shied away from leading man roles. One of his best performances was under a bunch of aging prosthetics. He doesn’t need to be Iron Man (those movies were never his bag) and he doesn’t need to be Channing Tatum. He needs a great performance in an acclaimed movie, which is not likely to be a Hollywood blockbuster with lots of explosions and marvel characters anyway. And he is capable of it.

There’s a huge middle ground between “unemployable” and “biggest leading man in Hollywood”. He never wanted the latter in the first place. Jack Sparrow was double-edged for him. It might not ever reach those heights again but he can have a career. Mel Gibson still work, for Christ’s sake. He may not be Lethal Weapon anymore but he can work.

Puh-leeaze. He’s not that talented. You’re acting like he was Daniel Day Lewis. He was doing big budget fluff films because he’s not that talented. Mel Gibson had an academy award for best director 10+ years before he was exposed as a POS and his comeback came in making his own movies. Johnny can’t do that because he is not that talented.

Johnny Depp had Brad Pitt level fame/recognition. And hey, Brad Pitt had a nasty episode with alcohol and his family and a prolonged divorce case where the public sentiment was against his ex wife.

Brad Pitt is fine, back to being america's sweetheart, given his second chance (third if you count the aniston debacle), and riding high off a great cameo in a big film and running his own production studio. Despite that family situation appearing quite bad still.

Brad Pitt doesn't cost studios money, he makes them. Brad Pitt tried to keep it all as private as possible and used the press in strategic and calculated ways to influence public opinion. Brad Pitt was never so out of control that there were a bunch of videos of him raging, or absolutely trashed hotel rooms, to fill the papers with.

Depp might not have been oscar talented, but he was/is VERY VERY famous. He is the type of name that gets people to go to the movies, which is type of movie star that is not as common as it was in the 90s/00s. He was a Tim Burton muse and Pirates should have set him up for life and was then even given an in into the Potter franchise to help him recoup all the Pirates money he had blown on drugs.

1. Brad Pitt still looks good and his substance issues never interfered with his work to the extent that Johnny Depp’s did
2. Johnny Depp WAS a box office draw. But who is his fan base now?
3. Does Brad Pitt really star in anything anymore? He seems like it’s pretty much all supporting roles. And he wisely expanded into other ventures, namely producing great films like Moonlight and 12 years a slave, which allows aging actors to maintain relevance and network.

But I do agree that had Johnny Depp not dragged out this whole thing with Amber people would have forgotten it. Every time
He sues her it literally just reminds people of what she said.

I meant he bolded is kind of my point. Brad Pitt held himself together and is now totally fine. JD spiraled out of control and is acting like its her fault when if he could just get it together, he'd be fine too. Rehab, a couple years seeming stable, a sympathetic interview, voila. Brad Pitt is headlining a movie this summer (Bullet Train), has a huge high profile cameo in the big Sandra Bullock/Channing Tatum movie and starred in Ad Astra and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in 2019. He took a few years off there when his life was going to crap, but is back making and producing movies prolifically now.

Based on this trial he seems to still have plenty of fans. People still buy Chris Brown's music.

My point is that you can’t put the genie back in the bottle. If he had held it together like Brad did maybe. But he didn’t. You can’t cost the studio money by showing up drunk and causing a lot of drama at work and then be like “I’m clean now” for the thousandth time at 58 and all is forgiven. And 90% of why Chris Brown is able to record music now is because Rihanna publicly forgave him and dated him again (which was a mistake). That’s not really an option here.

Yes screw ups can in fact put the genie back in the bottle. Let's look at Justin Bieber. Total screw up repeat disastrous infractions. Distant memory today. Lindsay Lohan just got a netflix deal for two movies! Hollywood wants to make money. It is easy to make money off of comeback kid stories of beloved actors and musicians. Amy Winehouse was pushed out on stage until the day she died. As long as someone will pay to see them, someone will pay them.

It won't happen, but I absolutely have zero doubt that if after this, Depp checked himself into Promises in Malibu and then laid low for a year and did a big interview about his path to sobriety a year later he would be back in theaters by 2025. NO doubt. The path is well worn with celebrities and their drug addictions and the industry built to keep them going long enough to extract all the juice from their fruit.

Agree +1.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

+1. People are falling back in love and feeling sympathy for Johnny Depp. He may not care at all about winning or losing this case. It may all be an orchestrated PR stunt. He’s never had so much press. He’ll definitely be back in projects and people will go see them.

+2 This case is changing my opinion of him. Amber sounds like a nightmare. I definitely see him in a new light and have developed sympathy for him.

Same but against Depp. I thought fairly well of him before, wasn't familiar at all with the UK case. It's because of this trial that I now think he's a pampered and petulant jerk.

Tell us more, Mrs Rottenborn.

A page or two ago someone who hadn't drunk the Depp Kool Aid was Amber Heard (!), now you're saying they're the attorney's wife. Not sure who you are but you should grow up, you're tiresome.

Are you on the spectrum? It’s sarcasm. Nobody actually believes these people are on the forum.

Perhaps thou should look in thine mirror, person questioning the mental health of others while glued to a thread about a celebrity divorce looking for people to troll

Autism is not a mental health disorder.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

+1. People are falling back in love and feeling sympathy for Johnny Depp. He may not care at all about winning or losing this case. It may all be an orchestrated PR stunt. He’s never had so much press. He’ll definitely be back in projects and people will go see them.

+2 This case is changing my opinion of him. Amber sounds like a nightmare. I definitely see him in a new light and have developed sympathy for him.

Her flat, emotionless expression staring at the camera has been really strange. Even during his testimony. Bizarre-O

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Do we know where Johnny Depp is staying? Ritz Carlton? A private mansion around here? Any news of sightings?

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

+1. People are falling back in love and feeling sympathy for Johnny Depp. He may not care at all about winning or losing this case. It may all be an orchestrated PR stunt. He’s never had so much press. He’ll definitely be back in projects and people will go see them.

+2 This case is changing my opinion of him. Amber sounds like a nightmare. I definitely see him in a new light and have developed sympathy for him.

Her flat, emotionless expression staring at the camera has been really strange. Even during his testimony. Bizarre-O

She’s clearly heavily medicated. Righly so given her diagnoses it would be hard to control herself otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

Can you explain what this insurance is, and why he can't get it?

DP. Making movies is incredibly expensive. INCREDIBLY expensive. Most movie production sets are insured so say, they lost a month of filming to a hurricane, the studio isn't totally out. Almost all big actors get insurance because its incredibly expensive if something happens to an actor mid film. Like say, they injure their finger and shut down production for four weeks.

These insurance companies evaluate movie projects the same way your car insurance evaluates you. Johnny Depp is like a 22 year old boy with 5 DUIs. They won't insure him to drive.

Did he screw up production in one of his last movies?

Yes, he cost Disney $$$$$$$ on pirates 4. The hand incident happened then and shut down production for a month. And that was AFTER showing up hours late and frequently drunk for much of the rest of filming. And like every SINGLE hour on a set matters and costs money.

Gee, his BPD wife cut his finger off. He was going through a rough relationship that's ended now. I don't see how that moment in time can be held against him.

It wasn't "that moment in time." It was part of a consistent pattern of behavior that had been going on for years. Listen, I think she is a total POS, but his issues with being uninsurable and unreliable and showing up on set drunk and drugged out of his mind also pre-dated her, and that's what this lawsuit is about. That "moment in time" was the final straw for the money men, and everyone isn't owed a 4th, 5th, 6th, 7, 8th, 9th, 10th, etc. shot to make millions.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

My brother is an entertainment attorney in LA. He's finished. He can't get insurance and nobody will step in to cover for him because he aired the dirty laundry and upset too many people in the industry. He's a huge liability and hasn't been making enough money for the studio in a while.

Can you explain what this insurance is, and why he can't get it?

DP. Making movies is incredibly expensive. INCREDIBLY expensive. Most movie production sets are insured so say, they lost a month of filming to a hurricane, the studio isn't totally out. Almost all big actors get insurance because its incredibly expensive if something happens to an actor mid film. Like say, they injure their finger and shut down production for four weeks.

These insurance companies evaluate movie projects the same way your car insurance evaluates you. Johnny Depp is like a 22 year old boy with 5 DUIs. They won't insure him to drive.

Did he screw up production in one of his last movies?

Yes, he cost Disney $$$$$$$ on pirates 4. The hand incident happened then and shut down production for a month. And that was AFTER showing up hours late and frequently drunk for much of the rest of filming. And like every SINGLE hour on a set matters and costs money.

Gee, his BPD wife cut his finger off. He was going through a rough relationship that's ended now. I don't see how that moment in time can be held against him.

It wasn't "that moment in time." It was part of a consistent pattern of behavior that had been going on for years. Listen, I think she is a total POS, but his issues with being uninsurable and unreliable and showing up on set drunk and drugged out of his mind also pre-dated her, and that's what this lawsuit is about. That "moment in time" was the final straw for the money men, and everyone isn't owed a 4th, 5th, 6th, 7, 8th, 9th, 10th, etc. shot to make millions.

Maybe, but as the talent agent testified yesterday, Heard's accusations could be why he was dropped. The agent said he was frequently late, but people worked around it.

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For people one would assume would be busy, Depp and Heard certainly seemed to have a lot of time on their hands too drink, drug, and create unnecessary drama and fights. Seems pretty vacuous.

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

First of all, if he cleaned up he’d likely lose some of the weight and bloat. He still has amazing bone structure. Most importantly he is a talented actor. He’s never needed youthful roles to display that talent as he always shied away from leading man roles. One of his best performances was under a bunch of aging prosthetics. He doesn’t need to be Iron Man (those movies were never his bag) and he doesn’t need to be Channing Tatum. He needs a great performance in an acclaimed movie, which is not likely to be a Hollywood blockbuster with lots of explosions and marvel characters anyway. And he is capable of it.

There’s a huge middle ground between “unemployable” and “biggest leading man in Hollywood”. He never wanted the latter in the first place. Jack Sparrow was double-edged for him. It might not ever reach those heights again but he can have a career. Mel Gibson still work, for Christ’s sake. He may not be Lethal Weapon anymore but he can work.

Puh-leeaze. He’s not that talented. You’re acting like he was Daniel Day Lewis. He was doing big budget fluff films because he’s not that talented. Mel Gibson had an academy award for best director 10+ years before he was exposed as a POS and his comeback came in making his own movies. Johnny can’t do that because he is not that talented.

Johnny Depp had Brad Pitt level fame/recognition. And hey, Brad Pitt had a nasty episode with alcohol and his family and a prolonged divorce case where the public sentiment was against his ex wife.

Brad Pitt is fine, back to being america's sweetheart, given his second chance (third if you count the aniston debacle), and riding high off a great cameo in a big film and running his own production studio. Despite that family situation appearing quite bad still.

Brad Pitt doesn't cost studios money, he makes them. Brad Pitt tried to keep it all as private as possible and used the press in strategic and calculated ways to influence public opinion. Brad Pitt was never so out of control that there were a bunch of videos of him raging, or absolutely trashed hotel rooms, to fill the papers with.

Depp might not have been oscar talented, but he was/is VERY VERY famous. He is the type of name that gets people to go to the movies, which is type of movie star that is not as common as it was in the 90s/00s. He was a Tim Burton muse and Pirates should have set him up for life and was then even given an in into the Potter franchise to help him recoup all the Pirates money he had blown on drugs.

1. Brad Pitt still looks good and his substance issues never interfered with his work to the extent that Johnny Depp’s did
2. Johnny Depp WAS a box office draw. But who is his fan base now?
3. Does Brad Pitt really star in anything anymore? He seems like it’s pretty much all supporting roles. And he wisely expanded into other ventures, namely producing great films like Moonlight and 12 years a slave, which allows aging actors to maintain relevance and network.

But I do agree that had Johnny Depp not dragged out this whole thing with Amber people would have forgotten it. Every time
He sues her it literally just reminds people of what she said.

I meant he bolded is kind of my point. Brad Pitt held himself together and is now totally fine. JD spiraled out of control and is acting like its her fault when if he could just get it together, he'd be fine too. Rehab, a couple years seeming stable, a sympathetic interview, voila. Brad Pitt is headlining a movie this summer (Bullet Train), has a huge high profile cameo in the big Sandra Bullock/Channing Tatum movie and starred in Ad Astra and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in 2019. He took a few years off there when his life was going to crap, but is back making and producing movies prolifically now.

Based on this trial he seems to still have plenty of fans. People still buy Chris Brown's music.

Is Brad even divorced yet? So don’t worry he’s got plenty of baggage being thrown out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know where Johnny Depp is staying? Ritz Carlton? A private mansion around here? Any news of sightings?

anyone?

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The testimony made it clear yesterday that Depp has “Never been on time to anything in his life” and productions worked around it. I think it’s a better argument to say his movies weren’t doing well anymore lately and no one wanted to put up with his antics if the final product wasn’t going to make anyone any money anyway.

This is Hollywood. They will forgive a LOT if money can be made.

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Anonymous wrote:I still do not see evidence of DV from Depp directly to Heard’s person.

Why would Depp provide proof that he abused her? We are hearing his side.

I watched primary evidence. Police cam footage. No abuse proof.

She has multiple people testifying about seeing her bruised and was photographed with scarring on her arm. She has contemporaneous police reports. They don’t actually need a video of him dragging her around to conclude that it’s reasonable they were in a mutually abusive relationship. Their own marriage counselor, his witness, has testified to seeing her bruised and that they had a mutually abusing relationship.

Some of you all do not understand the law and it shows

Why do you think people don’t understand the law if they say they have not yet seen proof of abuse? No one said Heard did NOT have proof—just that nothing yet shows her accusation is true.

So far, I see her lies have not helped up. That she has PTSD? That she used makeup that didn’t exist to hide her bruises and carried this makeup that didn’t exist yet everywhere? That Johnny kept her away from friends when he let her friends and family live for free in Los Angeles penthouses?

Meanwhile, her attorney objected to his own question. Who doesn’t understand the law?

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

First of all, if he cleaned up he’d likely lose some of the weight and bloat. He still has amazing bone structure. Most importantly he is a talented actor. He’s never needed youthful roles to display that talent as he always shied away from leading man roles. One of his best performances was under a bunch of aging prosthetics. He doesn’t need to be Iron Man (those movies were never his bag) and he doesn’t need to be Channing Tatum. He needs a great performance in an acclaimed movie, which is not likely to be a Hollywood blockbuster with lots of explosions and marvel characters anyway. And he is capable of it.

There’s a huge middle ground between “unemployable” and “biggest leading man in Hollywood”. He never wanted the latter in the first place. Jack Sparrow was double-edged for him. It might not ever reach those heights again but he can have a career. Mel Gibson still work, for Christ’s sake. He may not be Lethal Weapon anymore but he can work.

Puh-leeaze. He’s not that talented. You’re acting like he was Daniel Day Lewis. He was doing big budget fluff films because he’s not that talented. Mel Gibson had an academy award for best director 10+ years before he was exposed as a POS and his comeback came in making his own movies. Johnny can’t do that because he is not that talented.

Johnny Depp had Brad Pitt level fame/recognition. And hey, Brad Pitt had a nasty episode with alcohol and his family and a prolonged divorce case where the public sentiment was against his ex wife.

Brad Pitt is fine, back to being america's sweetheart, given his second chance (third if you count the aniston debacle), and riding high off a great cameo in a big film and running his own production studio. Despite that family situation appearing quite bad still.

Brad Pitt doesn't cost studios money, he makes them. Brad Pitt tried to keep it all as private as possible and used the press in strategic and calculated ways to influence public opinion. Brad Pitt was never so out of control that there were a bunch of videos of him raging, or absolutely trashed hotel rooms, to fill the papers with.

Depp might not have been oscar talented, but he was/is VERY VERY famous. He is the type of name that gets people to go to the movies, which is type of movie star that is not as common as it was in the 90s/00s. He was a Tim Burton muse and Pirates should have set him up for life and was then even given an in into the Potter franchise to help him recoup all the Pirates money he had blown on drugs.

1. Brad Pitt still looks good and his substance issues never interfered with his work to the extent that Johnny Depp’s did
2. Johnny Depp WAS a box office draw. But who is his fan base now?
3. Does Brad Pitt really star in anything anymore? He seems like it’s pretty much all supporting roles. And he wisely expanded into other ventures, namely producing great films like Moonlight and 12 years a slave, which allows aging actors to maintain relevance and network.

But I do agree that had Johnny Depp not dragged out this whole thing with Amber people would have forgotten it. Every time
He sues her it literally just reminds people of what she said.

I meant he bolded is kind of my point. Brad Pitt held himself together and is now totally fine. JD spiraled out of control and is acting like its her fault when if he could just get it together, he'd be fine too. Rehab, a couple years seeming stable, a sympathetic interview, voila. Brad Pitt is headlining a movie this summer (Bullet Train), has a huge high profile cameo in the big Sandra Bullock/Channing Tatum movie and starred in Ad Astra and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in 2019. He took a few years off there when his life was going to crap, but is back making and producing movies prolifically now.

Based on this trial he seems to still have plenty of fans. People still buy Chris Brown's music.

My point is that you can’t put the genie back in the bottle. If he had held it together like Brad did maybe. But he didn’t. You can’t cost the studio money by showing up drunk and causing a lot of drama at work and then be like “I’m clean now” for the thousandth time at 58 and all is forgiven. And 90% of why Chris Brown is able to record music now is because Rihanna publicly forgave him and dated him again (which was a mistake). That’s not really an option here.

Yes screw ups can in fact put the genie back in the bottle. Let's look at Justin Bieber. Total screw up repeat disastrous infractions. Distant memory today. Lindsay Lohan just got a netflix deal for two movies! Hollywood wants to make money. It is easy to make money off of comeback kid stories of beloved actors and musicians. Amy Winehouse was pushed out on stage until the day she died. As long as someone will pay to see them, someone will pay them.

It won't happen, but I absolutely have zero doubt that if after this, Depp checked himself into Promises in Malibu and then laid low for a year and did a big interview about his path to sobriety a year later he would be back in theaters by 2025. NO doubt. The path is well worn with celebrities and their drug addictions and the industry built to keep them going long enough to extract all the juice from their fruit.

Again you are listing people who are decades younger than him and closer in age to his children. Yes, people who do stupid things for a few years when they are teens can get another bite at the apple. But when it has been literal decades of drinking and then multiple years of a long protracted legal battle that is continuously exposing that fact you can’t turn it around. He’s basically where Marlon Brando was at the end of his career with less talent. I also don’t get the Lindsay Lohan example like even with a Netflix deal her career is nowhere near what it was.