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04/27/2022 17:34

Subject: Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:So Depp's attys said this psychologist was going to issue a number of damaging opinions (that Heard was lying about having suffered domestic abuse or lying that Depp abused Heard, etc) that she never arrives at or testifies to.

For all the prior complaints about the proliferation of pro-Depp commentary on the internet, this board certainly seems to have a lot of anti-Depp/pro-Amber posters offering pro-Amber spin to everything that happens...

Any comment that isn't dripping with sympathy for Depp is labeled a pro Amber spin.

He has nothing, he lost a defamation suit in the UK. It is much easier to win defamation suits there. It is extremely hard to win them here, especially against public figures. There is almost no chance he prevails.

So?

Is his point to win or to clear his name? We don’t know.

He can't clear his name and he's broke and unemployable. This is a lost case.

The thing is, he’s not unemployable. Hollywood loves him (or used to love him) and they love a redemption story. It’s up to him whether he wants to get serious about getting cleaned up and pursuing it. I don’t think he is. He’s always kind of had this “I don’t care about being an actor” thing that used to be part of his appeal.

He may lose the case but there are a lot more people sympathetic to what he went through and willing to acknowledge he’s not the bad guy. The opportunity for redemption is right there. It won’t even be particularly hares if he cleans up, that is.

When was the last redemption story of someone at his age? Hollywood is youth obsessed. He’s a bloated old man in his late 50s. He’s not RDJ getting over a drug habit in his 20s. He’s a man that was on the tail end of his career who happened to cheat with the wrong crazy at that time. I will never understand why he is pursuing a legal action he can’t win. All of this just continues to force him to be connected to this woman he claims he hates.

First of all, if he cleaned up he’d likely lose some of the weight and bloat. He still has amazing bone structure. Most importantly he is a talented actor. He’s never needed youthful roles to display that talent as he always shied away from leading man roles. One of his best performances was under a bunch of aging prosthetics. He doesn’t need to be Iron Man (those movies were never his bag) and he doesn’t need to be Channing Tatum. He needs a great performance in an acclaimed movie, which is not likely to be a Hollywood blockbuster with lots of explosions and marvel characters anyway. And he is capable of it.

There’s a huge middle ground between “unemployable” and “biggest leading man in Hollywood”. He never wanted the latter in the first place. Jack Sparrow was double-edged for him. It might not ever reach those heights again but he can have a career. Mel Gibson still work, for Christ’s sake. He may not be Lethal Weapon anymore but he can work.

Puh-leeaze. He’s not that talented. You’re acting like he was Daniel Day Lewis. He was doing big budget fluff films because he’s not that talented. Mel Gibson had an academy award for best director 10+ years before he was exposed as a POS and his comeback came in making his own movies. Johnny can’t do that because he is not that talented.

Johnny Depp had Brad Pitt level fame/recognition. And hey, Brad Pitt had a nasty episode with alcohol and his family and a prolonged divorce case where the public sentiment was against his ex wife.

Brad Pitt is fine, back to being america's sweetheart, given his second chance (third if you count the aniston debacle), and riding high off a great cameo in a big film and running his own production studio. Despite that family situation appearing quite bad still.

Brad Pitt doesn't cost studios money, he makes them. Brad Pitt tried to keep it all as private as possible and used the press in strategic and calculated ways to influence public opinion. Brad Pitt was never so out of control that there were a bunch of videos of him raging, or absolutely trashed hotel rooms, to fill the papers with.

Depp might not have been oscar talented, but he was/is VERY VERY famous. He is the type of name that gets people to go to the movies, which is type of movie star that is not as common as it was in the 90s/00s. He was a Tim Burton muse and Pirates should have set him up for life and was then even given an in into the Potter franchise to help him recoup all the Pirates money he had blown on drugs.

1. Brad Pitt still looks good and his substance issues never interfered with his work to the extent that Johnny Depp’s did
2. Johnny Depp WAS a box office draw. But who is his fan base now?
3. Does Brad Pitt really star in anything anymore? He seems like it’s pretty much all supporting roles. And he wisely expanded into other ventures, namely producing great films like Moonlight and 12 years a slave, which allows aging actors to maintain relevance and network.

But I do agree that had Johnny Depp not dragged out this whole thing with Amber people would have forgotten it. Every time
He sues her it literally just reminds people of what she said.

I meant he bolded is kind of my point. Brad Pitt held himself together and is now totally fine. JD spiraled out of control and is acting like its her fault when if he could just get it together, he'd be fine too. Rehab, a couple years seeming stable, a sympathetic interview, voila. Brad Pitt is headlining a movie this summer (Bullet Train), has a huge high profile cameo in the big Sandra Bullock/Channing Tatum movie and starred in Ad Astra and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in 2019. He took a few years off there when his life was going to crap, but is back making and producing movies prolifically now.

Based on this trial he seems to still have plenty of fans. People still buy Chris Brown's music.

My point is that you can’t put the genie back in the bottle. If he had held it together like Brad did maybe. But he didn’t. You can’t cost the studio money by showing up drunk and causing a lot of drama at work and then be like “I’m clean now” for the thousandth time at 58 and all is forgiven. And 90% of why Chris Brown is able to record music now is because Rihanna publicly forgave him and dated him again (which was a mistake). That’s not really an option here.

Yes screw ups can in fact put the genie back in the bottle. Let's look at Justin Bieber. Total screw up repeat disastrous infractions. Distant memory today. Lindsay Lohan just got a netflix deal for two movies! Hollywood wants to make money. It is easy to make money off of comeback kid stories of beloved actors and musicians. Amy Winehouse was pushed out on stage until the day she died. As long as someone will pay to see them, someone will pay them.

It won't happen, but I absolutely have zero doubt that if after this, Depp checked himself into Promises in Malibu and then laid low for a year and did a big interview about his path to sobriety a year later he would be back in theaters by 2025. NO doubt. The path is well worn with celebrities and their drug addictions and the industry built to keep them going long enough to extract all the juice from their fruit.