Barr and Durham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the same folks accusing Trump of insurrection, we now find out were spying on him. Interesting development

They weren't spying on him. Read the primary source documents. It was a contract under the Obama administration that tracked DNS records (public) to mitigate hacking threats. You would know that if you consumed reliable sources of news, but instead, you go with the ones that also told you Trump was a legit billionaire, that Seth Rich was murdered and there was a child sex ring operating out of Comet Pizza's nonexistant basement.

Why do you like being lied to, and why do you propagate the lies?

“Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" — a government contract — to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [Internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."”

That’s the rest of the story

Paul Harvey would be proud of PP. All because a legal contract has been awarded doesn't mean the contractor can use it for illegal activities. That's criminal.

The information was known to the Trump Administration since 2017. If there was anything illegal done, it would have been charged. Why did they wait til after the statue of limitations passed? So they could put out half-truths and give Fox News something to spit out while Russia attacks Ukraine and Mazars throws Trump under the bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the same folks accusing Trump of insurrection, we now find out were spying on him. Interesting development

They were not spying. Everything has been clearly and reasonably explained. Basically, this is a big Nothingburger, brought to you by the “But her emails” crowd

[Anonymous]

Not following this closely…
But the RWNJ bubblesphere is very upset
Because our intelligence services shouldn’t
Have caught Trump and crew talking to
Russians and other foreign adversaries?

[Anonymous]

Riddle me this, if the Trump Administration knew about the contract and canceled it, how can they know that Joffee etal mined it for HRC? Trump didn't have a relationship with Alpha Bank/Russia and a $40 million Mueller investigation proved it. Keep reaching DCUM, this is worse than Watergate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not following this closely…
But the RWNJ bubblesphere is very upset
Because our intelligence services shouldn’t
Have caught Trump and crew talking to
Russians and other foreign adversaries?

The RWNJ’s claim that Trump’s computer server was not being used as a way to communicate with Russia’s Alfabank

They say the Democrats made it up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riddle me this, if the Trump Administration knew about the contract and canceled it, how can they know that Joffee etal mined it for HRC? Trump didn't have a relationship with Alpha Bank/Russia and a $40 million Mueller investigation proved it. Keep reaching DCUM, this is worse than Watergate.

Riddle what?

Durham is pretty scummy for filing this non-filing. For shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riddle me this, if the Trump Administration knew about the contract and canceled it, how can they know that Joffee etal mined it for HRC? Trump didn't have a relationship with Alpha Bank/Russia and a $40 million Mueller investigation proved it. Keep reaching DCUM, this is worse than Watergate.

Nope. Nothingburger. Move along

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riddle me this, if the Trump Administration knew about the contract and canceled it, how can they know that Joffee etal mined it for HRC? Trump didn't have a relationship with Alpha Bank/Russia and a $40 million Mueller investigation proved it. Keep reaching DCUM, this is worse than Watergate.

Honey.
You need to read the Mueller report.
And the senate intel report.
The only riddle here is why you aren’t informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not following this closely…
But the RWNJ bubblesphere is very upset
Because our intelligence services shouldn’t
Have caught Trump and crew talking to
Russians and other foreign adversaries?

The RWNJ’s claim that Trump’s computer server was not being used as a way to communicate with Russia’s Alfabank

They say the Democrats made it up!

But who even cares about that? Our intelligence services were getting direct and credible intel through 5 eyes that what’s-his-face was
Getting drunk at cocktail parties and bragging about using Russia to help beat Clinton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not following this closely…
But the RWNJ bubblesphere is very upset
Because our intelligence services shouldn’t
Have caught Trump and crew talking to
Russians and other foreign adversaries?

The RWNJ’s claim that Trump’s computer server was not being used as a way to communicate with Russia’s Alfabank

They say the Democrats made it up!

But who even cares about that? Our intelligence services were getting direct and credible intel through 5 eyes that what’s-his-face was
Getting drunk at cocktail parties and bragging about using Russia to help beat Clinton.

That's reality. Durham and the right-sphere prefer la-la land. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riddle me this, if the Trump Administration knew about the contract and canceled it, how can they know that Joffee etal mined it for HRC? Trump didn't have a relationship with Alpha Bank/Russia and a $40 million Mueller investigation proved it. Keep reaching DCUM, this is worse than Watergate.

No, the Mueller Report didn't prove it. The Mueller Report could't prove it wasn't true because of all of the obstruction and Fifth Amendment and destruction of evidence it noted. You clearly have NOT read the Mueller Report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the same folks accusing Trump of insurrection, we now find out were spying on him. Interesting development

They weren't spying on him. Read the primary source documents. It was a contract under the Obama administration that tracked DNS records (public) to mitigate hacking threats. You would know that if you consumed reliable sources of news, but instead, you go with the ones that also told you Trump was a legit billionaire, that Seth Rich was murdered and there was a child sex ring operating out of Comet Pizza's nonexistant basement.

Why do you like being lied to, and why do you propagate the lies?

“Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" — a government contract — to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [Internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."”

That’s the rest of the story

Except that isn't what happened. The data being scanned was public DNS numbers, not private content. And it was done for the purpose of mitigating and neutraliizing hackers. Not burrowing in to senstive back end content.

DNS records are public, but the access of DNS records is not. Even though the traffic is not encrypted, there is a certain level of anonymity because that lookup traffic usually traverses only between the requestor and the name servers provided by the ISP. It is also highly likely that the EOP IT network is in an enclave of sorts, and that the DNS server provided by the tech company is within that enclave or has a VPN connection of some sort since it's likely that DNS is just one among a suite of services provided.

All this is to say that while the government certainly can subpoena and obtain DNS lookup information from ISPs since there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for information volunteered to a third party, such information is nonetheless protected from disclosure to non-government entities, including private investigators, law firms, and political campaigns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

DNS records are public, but the access of DNS records is not. Even though the traffic is not encrypted, there is a certain level of anonymity because that lookup traffic usually traverses only between the requestor and the name servers provided by the ISP. It is also highly likely that the EOP IT network is in an enclave of sorts, and that the DNS server provided by the tech company is within that enclave or has a VPN connection of some sort since it's likely that DNS is just one among a suite of services provided.

All this is to say that while the government certainly can subpoena and obtain DNS lookup information from ISPs since there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for information volunteered to a third party, such information is nonetheless protected from disclosure to non-government entities, including private investigators, law firms, and political campaigns.

the contract in place was to scan for nefarious activity and protect against it. there is zero proof of any information being shared or use by private investigators, law firms or political campaigns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the same folks accusing Trump of insurrection, we now find out were spying on him. Interesting development

They weren't spying on him. Read the primary source documents. It was a contract under the Obama administration that tracked DNS records (public) to mitigate hacking threats. You would know that if you consumed reliable sources of news, but instead, you go with the ones that also told you Trump was a legit billionaire, that Seth Rich was murdered and there was a child sex ring operating out of Comet Pizza's nonexistant basement.

Why do you like being lied to, and why do you propagate the lies?

“Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" — a government contract — to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [Internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."”

That’s the rest of the story

Except that isn't what happened. The data being scanned was public DNS numbers, not private content. And it was done for the purpose of mitigating and neutraliizing hackers. Not burrowing in to senstive back end content.

DNS records are public, but the access of DNS records is not. Even though the traffic is not encrypted, there is a certain level of anonymity because that lookup traffic usually traverses only between the requestor and the name servers provided by the ISP. It is also highly likely that the EOP IT network is in an enclave of sorts, and that the DNS server provided by the tech company is within that enclave or has a VPN connection of some sort since it's likely that DNS is just one among a suite of services provided.

All this is to say that while the government certainly can subpoena and obtain DNS lookup information from ISPs since there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for information volunteered to a third party, such information is nonetheless protected from disclosure to non-government entities, including private investigators, law firms, and political campaigns.

Unless for a legitimate government purpose, as in this case. Gov’t uses contractors to do research ALL THE TIME.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the same folks accusing Trump of insurrection, we now find out were spying on him. Interesting development

They weren't spying on him. Read the primary source documents. It was a contract under the Obama administration that tracked DNS records (public) to mitigate hacking threats. You would know that if you consumed reliable sources of news, but instead, you go with the ones that also told you Trump was a legit billionaire, that Seth Rich was murdered and there was a child sex ring operating out of Comet Pizza's nonexistant basement.

Why do you like being lied to, and why do you propagate the lies?

“Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" — a government contract — to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [Internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."”

That’s the rest of the story

Except that isn't what happened. The data being scanned was public DNS numbers, not private content. And it was done for the purpose of mitigating and neutraliizing hackers. Not burrowing in to senstive back end content.

DNS records are public, but the access of DNS records is not. Even though the traffic is not encrypted, there is a certain level of anonymity because that lookup traffic usually traverses only between the requestor and the name servers provided by the ISP. It is also highly likely that the EOP IT network is in an enclave of sorts, and that the DNS server provided by the tech company is within that enclave or has a VPN connection of some sort since it's likely that DNS is just one among a suite of services provided.

All this is to say that while the government certainly can subpoena and obtain DNS lookup information from ISPs since there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for information volunteered to a third party, such information is nonetheless protected from disclosure to non-government entities, including private investigators, law firms, and political campaigns.

Unless for a legitimate government purpose, as in this case. Gov’t uses contractors to do research ALL THE TIME.

That research does not allow disclosure of underlying data to third parties, including private investigators, law firms, and political campaigns. It's privileged sensitive information. It's the same in nature as the phone numbers dialed by the president.